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Should I Give Up On My Aspie Husband?

Hi Kim,
Thank you. I don't wanna give up on him, but I fear it may be too late. Five years have passed since we were married and Idk if he loves me like he did. I don't think that he understands that we can rebuild what we had. Idk if he wants to do the work. He's turning all these thoughts over in his head, so I just can't tell. But I guess if it's meant to be, it will be.

I am afraid to make any suggestions to him right now regarding the disorder because Idk if he wants to know more/do more about it or not and I don't want him to think I'm overstepping. My son sees a therapist who specializes in autism and there's a psychiatrist too that we know within the specialty, so if he's ever ready, we have those resources. I know from experience how it can improve their quality of life. I just wish he felt motivated to do it; but I guess it's his choice to live his life how he sees fit. It seems like you have something really wonderful. That must feel great! I want that more than anything.

My heart breaks at your post. As great as my guy is now, he never was the one to chase me or initiate a conversation. In fact, every time I would run away, or we would fight, it would always be me to come back to him either apologizing or suggesting we talk. That is why for a long time, I wasn't sure if he really wanted me, or if I was imposing myself on him. However, when I directly asked him if he wanted me around, he would say yes. I've always been the dominant one in our relationship (sometimes to a fault), and that's our dynamic.

Of course, you know your guy a lot better than I do, and you surely have your own dynamic ;-) He does sound worth fighting for though! I really hope things work out well... I think they will once the dust settles.
 
That's the key..taking the fear away. I can't do that for him. I feel like I'm pressuring him, so I've decided to fall back.

I think you can help him overcome his fears. The question is is if you want to.It's probably just a question of talking it through with him, accepting he's slow to change, and reassuring him that even if it doesn't work out that things can go back to the way they were before you slept together again.
 
I cannot speak for your ex husband, but when there is an issue, and my wife prefers to leave it unresolved or doesn't want to talk about it, i get uncomfortable and assume that it's my fault, which then just makes the issue into a problem. But again i can't speak for you or your ex husband, i can just share my experience.
 
I think you can help him overcome his fears. The question is is if you want to.It's probably just a question of talking it through with him, accepting he's slow to change, and reassuring him that even if it doesn't work out that things can go back to the way they were before you slept together again.
I do want to. I left him alone for two days, and today he reached out and askef if he could stop by to see me and the kids. He knows he's welcome anytime , but I noted he made a point of saying to see ME and the kids. That made me smile. He came in my room and we chatted for a little while and he invited me to dinner together next wk to celebrate our birthdays (we're 5 days apart). So, all is not lost. What a relief!

He stayed over. I didn't dare offer my bed. Lol He fell asleep in the next room next to our littlest one.
 
Hello, first sorry for my mistakes on english writing :)
I think as your son loves you two, he loves you too, a lot, as he have take care of you two. The thing is only love is for us not as you can think.
This feeling to be not alone, and doing all we can to furfill the other's dreams, even if we need to fight against our fears. You can't tell he doesn't have given you love, but only he doesn't have given you love you wanted and was expecting.
I have lives 8 years with a woman ( older than me) and his son. She ended by firing me , because she was disapointed and the words coming more often were ' i don't love her'
But the fact, during this time i don't even know i was Autist, but I have done all I was able to do to give her love the way i was thinking the better.
During this 8 years, i have realised her dream and her son's dreams. How ?
when i meet her, whe was unemployed, and trying to get the truck licence. Her son was studing at lycee.
All I have done, is opening doors for her and her son, we moved to get the best faculty for her son in the domain he wants, and for her, i got a way to get a job well payed ( around 3 times than usual work here), that learn her to drive very heavy trucks in the same time, and requesting no cash from her.
As she's not happy in city, i have searched and found a lovely house in moutain, with no neighbours, but all we need at 5 minuts if we use a car ( faster using cycle to go but longer to come back home lol ).
During this 8 years, she have done nothing to realise her dreams, all falling in her hands, and to do this i have done a lot more than i would be able to do for me, search, speak with strangers, phone calls etc.
I have pay the studies for her son, as she got trouble to do this, even when she has fired me, so her son got gratuated for his studies and begin to work. I even helped her when she lose by choice her job and became unemployed again.
So this isn't what she was expecting as love ( even if i have speak a lot with her, play with her with video games as she loves them, make travels , etc ), but for me this is the way i see love, take care of the ones I love.
So better is to split trouble in two, as there is no doubt you love each others, to finaly live together as you two want.
HE would need some time for him and yoou can't steal it, but you can manage to get some days for you and some for him, so he needs to learn what you want and applies them your days, and for his days, let him to be alone if he need to earn energy.
 
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I'm so sad today and I'm not ready to have my heartbroken again.

It sounds like this relationship has every chance of working. I say this because of your son. If you have learned to accept what AS looks like, then you are perfectly capable of making a relationship work with your ex.

You say he was a bit distant. I totally understand that, I would have been too. You say that you are not ready to have your heart broken, YOU DID THE BREAKING, you broke his heart, not the other way round. You are clearly very self aware and said it yourself, you felt unloved and rejected. Well he clearly loves you in an aspie type fashion, just like your son does, but because of your needs, you weren't getting what YOU wanted and so pushed him away. As a result, it's no wonder he is distant, he is probably terrified.

So you have all the power here, you clearly understand him more than he understands himself. You know exactly what you are getting yourself in for. The choice is entirely yours. Either go for it or don't.

If you do decide to take him back then an NT AS relationship is perfectly possible, many of us here have been in such relationships for decades, often with children. There are a few simple ground rules that make it work, for example
  • Give him space on a regular basis, I take Saturday to go off on my own to process all the gazillion sensory inputs from the week
  • Give him clear instructions, if he is "not pulling his weight" then tell him that you want him to vacuum the house every fortnight
  • Don't try to change him, if he wears the same shirt every day then let it happen
  • If you need reassurance, get it from friends and family, he won't gush romantically and if you force him to, it will sound scripted (in fact it will be scripted, I've tried this myself)
  • Clear your thoughts up before you offload onto him. What is it you actually want? Do you want him to say "I love you" every other day? Figure that out first and be clear
And if you choose to travel this path then he can count himself a very lucky man.
 
Hi @wight. Thanks for checking in. Things are...eh. He was here this weekend and seemed stressed most of the time, so I dont even know why he stayed. He's still 'confused' and has no idea how to get out of this loop he's in. I was hopeful a few days ago but not so much now.
 
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Hi @wight. Thanks for checking in. Things are...eh. He was here this weekend and seemed stressed most of the time, so I dont even know why he stayed. He's still 'confused' and has no idea how to get out of this loop he's in. I was hopeful a few days ago but not so much now.
That's disappointing to hear Eden!
I guess all you can do is give him time and space.
I really hope things work out for the best!
Please let us know how it goes. *Fingers crossed for you*!
 
Hi @wight. He was here this weekend and seemed stressed most of the time, so I dont even know why he stayed.

:) So aspie...stays even though he is uncertain and stressed. That means his desire to be near you and the kids is stronger than any confusion (and accompanying stress) he feels about the situation.

Or at least, that would be what it meant for me. This is the sort of thing I meant in my first post about being near/in the same room with my wife. I want to be near her more than I want to be alone.

We need to come up with an "aspie husband decoder ring" and stick it in Cereal Boxes. :)
 
Hi All,

I'm new here. I have a 13-year-old son who was diagnosed with ASD when he was 5. His dad and I divorced in 2012, initiated by me, because of lack of communication and emotional intimacy. We had been together for 12 years, married for 8. He's a great guy. Reliable, honest, trustworthy, loyal...it was really hard to let him go, but I was so unhappy and he just refused to talk and I felt unloved and rejected. So for the last few years we've been raising our children and although divorced, have maintained a pretty good relationship. He's still close w/ my family, here for every holiday, and even spends nights here to be closer to the children. We've even taken family vacations together once a year. He's a great dad and provider.

Three years ago when my son went in for a re-evaluation, my ex realized from talking to the doctor, that he is probably on the spectrum too. Unfortunately, he didn't pursue diagnosing at the time. Last month we finally sat down before the new year to talk about our divorce. I felt there were some things I needed to say, questions I wanted answered about us. He's very shy, but surprisingly, was able to communicate his feelings and answer some of my questions. Feeling buoyed by his growth and willingness to communicate--something he refused to do when we were married--the subject of possibly getting back together came up. I mean, we spend so much time together as it is and I still love him, and have been single for the last three years. In my heart, he's still my husband.

So, we said we'd see if we could spend more time together to foster those feelings again, as it's been a while since we've behaved as a couple. So we've been watching TV together sometimes and he invited me out to breakfast two weeks ago. Last week he came into my room shyly and laid down in the bed with me. We talked a little and just cuddled. Was so nice. He then slept in the bed with me for two or three nights. (We've been careful so as not to confuse the children until we know what this is). Well, one night we ended up making love. I could have waited, but the vibe was right and it just happened. (He told me he hadn't been w/ anyone since our divorce).

Well, after the sex, which was nice, he started being weird. The next evening he went back to sleeping on the couch two nights in a row, and I was really hurt. We had a small fight about it and he revealed that things were moving fast for him. Five years apart, he said, with no inkling that we would ever get back together, and now we're spending time and sleeping in the same bed and he just felt overwhelmed and needed a chance to think and see if this is "100% the right thing." I was hurt, but in my newfound understanding and respect for who he is, I said okay. I mean, going slow is fine as long as we're moving forward, I thought. We agreed, for now, no more sleeping in the bed together, and no more sex and more space.

That was about a week ago and he still seemed distant so we talked again yesterday and he said that it occurred to him that something may be wrong with his emotions. That he has internal mood swings. That one day he feels "oh, wow, this is great, a dream come true, this feels really good", but then next he feels "trapped" or worried that he will disappoint me and that he doesn't have the basic skills to be in a relationship. That what if it doesn't work out and then I blame him and the good relationship we've had during our years apart is destroyed? Then what if he blames me for even bringing up the topic of getting back together? He's had a routine for five years, he said, working on his music and going everywhere alone, and only OCCASIONALLY feeling "Man, I wish I had someone." So basically, he's been relatively happy without me. But, he says, there's another side of him that doesn't want to be alone for the rest of his life, and getting back with me may be his only shot to be in a real relationship. And he thinks of how great it would be to tell our friends and family that we're back, and all that. He goes back and forth on these two positions in his mind. An "internal conflict" he calls it. And he can't seem to land on either side of it to make a decision to move forward with me: to A, possibly pursue counseling to get a diagnosis and understand more about this and get tools for himself and us as a couple, or just drop the idea of getting back together and continue his solo existence. It's only been one month since we've attempted trying, so maybe this is alot for him all at once.

And here I am, this sensitive, heart on her sleeve kind of individual, just sort of stuck. I was excited at the prospect of putting my family back together, because I never really understood why we couldn't work it out. My kids would love it so much and I love him dearly. Up until this last discussion, I thought our biggest challenge would be re-acclimating ourselves and me adjusting my expectations based on what I understand about him now that I didn't when we were married. But it would seem, with his confession about the mood swings, I don't know what to think. Is this a lost cause? He's a reserved quiet guy and so sweet. I'm not worried about him lashing out; he doesn't do that. But living with someone who may wake up one day and feel trapped being with me and not tell me...

Even though he realized three years ago he probably has Asperger's, he hasn't done anything to find out what it all means. He doesn't even know that there are people out there who have successful relationships with people like him. I think he just assumed he'd be alone for the rest of his life anyway, so he was ok with not doing pursuing a diagnosis. Now with the prospect of being with me, he seems all stressed out about it and thinking about his shortcomings and going back and forth about what to do, making himself crazy. And me too. He's also without a job for the first time in 10 years and worrying about money and taking care of the kids...so he's stressed. I asked him if it's possible he's overthinking all this -- bc, i know from dealing with my autie son, there's a tendency for OCD-like thoughts. He said, "possibly". I don't know if I should take what he's saying at face value and give up on the idea of being with him or what. I guess I'm wanting to know if some of the things he's saying sound like typical Aspie fears or should I see them as red flags and let the idea go. What should I expect for him to do at this point? Because "I don't know" and "possibly" are not real answers. Any advice or insight would be welcome and appreciated.

I'm so sad today and I'm not ready to have my heartbroken again.

Eden.
Have you tried to read any books? I’m reading Troubleshooting Relationships on the Autistic Spectrum. I find that intellectually understanding the feeling of distance in my relationship really takes away my anxiety.

I know you’re in a different place than I but I can relate to a partner who admits he probably is on the spectrum but doesn’t seem to have any interest in learning more about it.

Reading and being on these forums has helped me immensely. Wish you the best!
 
Reliable, honest, trustworthy, loyal...it was really hard to let him go, but I was so unhappy and he just refused to talk and I felt unloved and rejected

I don't mean to be rude so don't take this the wrong way but i will be blunt. Maybe he isn't the problem. In your post there is a lot of focus on him needing help. Him seeking diagnosis. Getting treatment. To fit your insecurities that he may never fill. Because it's likely a you problem. Him having all these short comings for not being 100% perfect while you listed traits that many, many, many people look for in a partner and never find. Reliable. Trustworthy. Honest. Loyal. It's a very one sided perspective and i wonder what he would say if he had a chance to speak to us openly. You get divorced and he even sticks around. After sleeping together after you divorced i don't know any guy who wouldn't have doubts after. You feel hurt that he slept on the couch for a couple days after? I'm sure he's felt more hurt when you choose to break the marriage. Not for a couple nights but for the last several years.
"Now with the prospect of being with me, he seems all stressed out about it and thinking about his shortcomings and going back and forth about what to do, making himself crazy. And me too. "

I wonder who put all those shortcomings in his head...
You force them onto him, then in turn it comes back to you.
Not a huge mystery.

Have you considered that you're self sabotaging or even ever considered that there is something wrong with you?

Again not saying it to be rude but based on your post and it's contents this is something you need to hear and explore. See a psychologist with the focus on yourself instead of blaming him to get more insight into yourself. Then cut the cord or tie it back together. Don't string him along like this.

Furthermore if you do want it work instead of asking a bunch of strangers If You Should Break Up With Your Aspie Husband... look into the condition study and research it. Aspie's, in some cases tend to express affection different than neuro typicals.
Sounds like you didn’t read the same post I did. Eden did not say she wanted to fix her husband
 
It sounds like this relationship has every chance of working. I say this because of your son. If you have learned to accept what AS looks like, then you are perfectly capable of making a relationship work with your ex.

You say he was a bit distant. I totally understand that, I would have been too. You say that you are not ready to have your heart broken, YOU DID THE BREAKING, you broke his heart, not the other way round. You are clearly very self aware and said it yourself, you felt unloved and rejected. Well he clearly loves you in an aspie type fashion, just like your son does, but because of your needs, you weren't getting what YOU wanted and so pushed him away. As a result, it's no wonder he is distant, he is probably terrified.

So you have all the power here, you clearly understand him more than he understands himself. You know exactly what you are getting yourself in for. The choice is entirely yours. Either go for it or don't.

If you do decide to take him back then an NT AS relationship is perfectly possible, many of us here have been in such relationships for decades, often with children. There are a few simple ground rules that make it work, for example
  • Give him space on a regular basis, I take Saturday to go off on my own to process all the gazillion sensory inputs from the week
  • Give him clear instructions, if he is "not pulling his weight" then tell him that you want him to vacuum the house every fortnight
  • Don't try to change him, if he wears the same shirt every day then let it happen
  • If you need reassurance, get it from friends and family, he won't gush romantically and if you force him to, it will sound scripted (in fact it will be scripted, I've tried this myself)
  • Clear your thoughts up before you offload onto him. What is it you actually want? Do you want him to say "I love you" every other day? Figure that out first and be clear
And if you choose to travel this path then he can count himself a very lucky man.
I had to chuckle about your mention of scripted comments. As the NT I can relate because my boyfriend knows it’s important for me that he complement me and he tries but it sounds mechanical. I try to appreciate the effort he puts into it rather than focusing on the way it sounds :)
 
I thought I would post this, Eden, because this is just some of the things I would be thinking in your husband's situation. (pardon the use of "husband", it is the most convenient term of reference). That is, losing my job, rekindled (possibly) romance with my ex, and all the other things you have describe:

Life sucks, lose my job just as Eden and I are... whatever this is... why would she want me? How will I provide for my family? AAAAAHHH!!!!!!! How am I going to find another job? What if I asked Eden if I could move in, that we aren't paying for two households? What if she says no? What if she doesn't want to, does that mean she doesn't want me, but what if she says yes, does that mean she does, or that she is taking pity, and how will it work, where will I sleep, what will I do with my stuff, what will happen to my routine and life, I'm so confused, I better not say anything about it. I want to be with her, I still love her, at least I think what I feel is love but it doesn't seem like this is what other people when they talk about love, and its scary and if I admit I'm afraid of what will happen, she might not like it, I'm not ready to talk about all that, I don't think, maybe if she brings it up first, but she probably won't, and in any case, I just lost my job, why would she want me anyway...[start at the beginning]

Around and around. Of course, there would be personal details in there and detours down different trains of thought, but it would eventually come back to the beginning again.

When I get caught in these sort of loops, I'm just a mess. Looking back at it afterward, I find it mildly amusing that I was so wrapped around the axle about things that usually turn out to be relatively simple to resolve.
I loved your response. Very insightful.
 
he tries but it sounds mechanical.

They could make a comedy out of us :). The ironic thing is that a lot of the time I mean it, but it just doesn't come out right. Same with complements, the other day I wanted to compliment my husband for going to the gym so said "the gym sessions are working, you don't look as scrawny as you used to". He replied "thank you, I think..."
 
They could make a comedy out of us :). The ironic thing is that a lot of the time I mean it, but it just doesn't come out right. Same with complements, the other day I wanted to compliment my husband for going to the gym so said "the gym sessions are working, you don't look as scrawny as you used to". He replied "thank you, I think..."
That’s hilarious and I think having a sense of humor is key!
 
Just an update here...not a whole lot has changed, but we are getting along and spending some time together. When we spoke the other day he said in a moment of frustration (when speaking about his fears) that sometimes he doesn't feel worthy. I'm not sure if he meant worthy of me or a relationship or worthy in general, and I didn't want to press it because we're trying to avoid serious talks for a while, as they only add to his feeling of stress. But I'm curious about it now.

Cute story: he walked into my bedroom the other night and just stood there. I asked him did he have something he wanted to say and he said no and just plopped down on the chair in my room and said, "I think I'm going to sleep here. It's comfortable." I guess that was his way of saying he wanted to be in the same room with me, or sleep in the bed but he didnt want to ask. lol...he eventually climbed into the bed after two hours and then my daughter came in the room and we three slept together. It was really nice. Just taking it slow...
 
Thanks for the update Eden. Hopefully if you just take it slowly, things will resolve themselves over time.
Maybe when he gets a new job he might feel more 'worthy' in all those respects. It can be a huge self-esteem issue for many people and they can't even contemplate other things until that gets resolved.
Best of luck!
 

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