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Friends or no friends??

I have no friends at all because it's hard for me to talk to people & I hate socializing. Plus, no one understands me & it would take a lot for a person to get to know me enough for me to become comfortable enough with them to consider them a friend.
 
I've pretty much given up on the idea of friendships. I've grown shyer as I've grown older and don't push myself on people, though I guess I've always been considered a little standoffish. Being bullied and mocked will do that to you. I don't go seeking friends. If someone wants to be friendly to me I allow them but inside I want to tell them, for your sake and for mine, please don't get involved. It will only end up badly by you turning on me and blaming me. I don't know what you want. I don't know how to be a friend. I've stopped asking people to do fun things with me, because I got tired of hearing no. I try not to make requests or demands. And in the evenings I drink. Alcohol is a wonderful thing. It shuts down the mind. The trouble is it wears off.
 
I had more friends back when I was in high school and earlier. I had a few friends in college too. Now I have lost touch with some of them and haven't really made many since I moved here to Las Vegas. As has been mentioned earlier in this thread, making small touch is very hard for me and it annoys there. There's many moments where most people would be social that I just want to left alone with my thoughts. If I meet somebody who I have a lot in common with, and there aren't many people like that, than it is cool to talk to them and hang out with them. Usually when I become friends with somebody though, I feel like I'm just kind of there and they are using me.
 
No friends. It certainly does not get easier. If you could graph the expected social skills against age & ours, surely the gap would get wider as we get older. Anyway, I think I've said elsewhere that I'd rather get called the names we had at school than the grown up versions.
 
Social skills can be learned over time. I myself now have a lot of friends and I like socialising.

Basically, just think like an NT and you can function along like them. The earlier you start learning, the better. People are more forgiving of mistakes at younger ages.
 
I have had friends off and on throughout my life. I don't really have any social anxiety. But I haven't had any close friends in a long time. I do have a partner that I have been with for 13 years. I think I am just not good at doing my part in keeping a friendship going. I'm not good at keeping in touch with people, and I seldom initiate activities. One problem for me is when I don't see someone for a few days I forget about them. There are people who like me, they seem to enjoy having me around. Most of my friends are involved somehow in my interest, bicycling. So they don't mind me talking about nothing else but bikes and riding and racing. It's much easier for me to socialize with people while I am doing some kind of activity, like cycling.
 
I don't really have any friends... but I found, that whenever I got involved into friendship so to say, I didn't really get anything done. I, in a way felt an obligation, to make time for those people. And with me doing a lot of stuff quite effiently and other people, in my opinion, don't... I had more problems with adhering to their schedule on when it's time to meet up, do something and whatnot. In a way, that's the same thing, that goes in relationships for me. I can't be around someone who just acts totally inefficient and even more so, if I'm part of that life.

However, like in another thread on this forum, there's friends and friends. I know a lot of people, and lot of people know me, but it doesn't make them friends. I wouldn't say I'm terrible at social contacts, I'm not really that shy either. I just have a quite awkward feeling whenever I have to talk to people, with which I actually do not have anything in common and I just have to... well, you know... "make conversation". To me, it defeats purpose. I engaged in social activity to get something out of it. I need information, need something done, want to ask someone to do something with me... but moreso it just feels like "hey! what's up?" and from there it goes to totally lame routes cause I honestly don't care what most people think about the weather, what they did earlier today and what they're going to do later today. It's not that I just don't care in an arrogant way, but I just keep thinking; Is the time wasted on something I do not need to know totally...well, wasted? Besides; why do I care what he does tonight? It's not that I'm thinking of him when I'm doing something else tonight. I'd only inquire stuff like that, if I had no idea how I should fill in my evening, as a suggestion; thus information. I rather have a sincere conversation than one that is required by social etiquette.

Sometimes, I come across as odd and egotistical because I don't care about other people that much, but if someone tries to label this on you, ask them if they're sincerly interested, or if they're just doing their thing (and expecting the same) because it's what everyone does and it's the social thing to do. I don't believe in "what everybody does". I can however, say... people that "know" me, know that if I tell them something, ask them something or give them best wishes or whatever... it's as honest and sincere as it gets.

When approaching a lot of people, it's a bit like I said, if I have nothing in common with them, I don't have an urge to indulge in conversation. if it's for instance approaching a girl, it's more of a "I'm not gonna make myself look stupid by just trying some general stuff" but on the other hand, I know I can be quite direct, but the norm, with which I don't agree, but apparently, the people I speak to, do, dictates that I can't walk up to most girls and ask "hey, wanna grab a movie with me and have sex afterwards?". Which is why I don't really try landing a date that way I guess and I might come across as shy.

I think that's a thing that get's people on the wrong foot on the spectrum. The norm doesn't want clear, to the point conversation. People want conversation to "beat around the bush".

Social skills can be learned over time. I myself now have a lot of friends and I like socialising.

Basically, just think like an NT and you can function along like them. The earlier you start learning, the better. People are more forgiving of mistakes at younger ages.

When is "early" for learning? I'm 28, I have never been told that I was wrong in my functioning. I had to find out the "hard way". So even if I learn it right now... what is the correct example? I've had enough of social contacts, they fall way out of line with what "correct social etiquette" is. I tried to mimic what I thought was normal... it came across as weird to other people because they clearly saw I wasn't "me" but rather someone that tried to fit in. I also ended up depressed because it was in no way natural for me to "act".

And also, to what I said earlier... I don't think it only has to do with the "inability" (at least for me). I has to do with the ability to be able to think further than just words, and think about intention and context.
 
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Well, I don't mind some chat about the weather, personally, or sports but it's not what I really want to discuss that much with people, generally! If that's all others want to discuss, that's fine but I'll never be able to be 'friends' with them. In theory, I suppose, we understand that it is NTs, being such a majority, that came up with the 'social rules' & thus understand, sort of, why they're so biased against us, basically? Nevertheless, I also imagine most of us will be limited in being 'friends' with such people but perhaps that's just me! It seems such a shame, really, doesn't anybody think?
Personally, I can't do 'think like an NT'; I totally don't understand them, how they think, feel, etc! Like trying to understand racism, bullying, sexism. Ultimately, of course, you can't 'reason' people out of such stuff; they'll hide it, now such things aren't socially acceptable, is all. Such things are 'part of human nature', allegedly. But that doesn't make much sense, given it's humans that came up with the 'rules' against those things.
NTs claim it's about 'more than words' & go on a lot about 'intentions' & context, strangely, though. Not yet having any way to tell what others' intentions are, beyond what they do say about them (& if there's more than words there, I don't get the rest).
 
I have 2 friends now and another friend i talk on the phone and another who i text but hardly ever see. I had no friends at nursery,primary school and senior school. Oh yeah i had 1 friend at senior school that lasted for a year before she moved away. She seems to have been the only one to look beyond my extreme shyness and lack of social skills and plus was frightened of social situations but so desperately wanted friends tho!
 
Have no friends. No friends online or offline. Have no social skills and don't like socialising and I find it gets harder as you get older.
 
Hello now one of my two friends is moving away now and she wont tell me where and this will mean i wont have anyone to hang around with. I feel very depressed about this and is making me feel suicidal. I have known her for 17 years and met her in hospital when i attempted suicide. Also how could she tell me at this time when i was goin through a difficult meeting concerning my health. She certainly picked a rotten time to tell me by text. Anyway we havnt been in contact for the last few days. its so damned difficult to find genuine friends especially if you suffer from severe social anxiety like me.
 
Hello now one of my two friends is moving away now and she wont tell me where and this will mean i wont have anyone to hang around with. I feel very depressed about this and is making me feel suicidal. I have known her for 17 years and met her in hospital when i attempted suicide. Also how could she tell me at this time when i was goin through a difficult meeting concerning my health. She certainly picked a rotten time to tell me by text. Anyway we havnt been in contact for the last few days. its so damned difficult to find genuine friends especially if you suffer from severe social anxiety like me.

Any reason why she won't tell you?

It's kinda odd I guess... apparently she doesn't want to be your friend, which strikes me as odd if you've known each other for 17 years
 
Social skills can be learned over time. I myself now have a lot of friends and I like socialising.

Basically, just think like an NT and you can function along like them. The earlier you start learning, the better. People are more forgiving of mistakes at younger ages.

I wish it was that easy. I've learned how to communicate and doing exactly what I was "supposed" to I was pretty successful at it but in the end I had to admit - something was missing. I felt like a robot programmed to say those things I didn't feel it. But going back to DIR therapy book that I'm reading right now it seems that it's actually possible for people on the spectrum to communicate with significant emotional investment and have clearer understanding of social nuances. It's about finding a connection to the outside world, or more about realizing that you've got that link, it might be different, more fragile...or maybe less flexible but you've got it.
One thing that I learned, I can't fake being NT not matter how hard I try, no matter how hard I believe that it's true.

As about friends... I think you have to have to have a true need, or desire to be a part of friendship to have one. Plus it's much easier to make friends when you're feeling good about yourself. I've never really had a NEED to have friends but circumstances (and at some point my parents :) ) connected me with some nice people whom I could call friend at different points of my life. Now I would only want to have friend (not talking about online) whom I could share common interests with (I would say that would be psychology ... And maybe development of extrasensory abilities or anything that has to do with expanding abilities of the brain) I wouldn't mind to meet a family with autistic kids who can agree that Autistic people have much more potential that other might realize and help their children move in that direction. I was thinking would I want to meet someone to play music with or who is an artist but I'm not sure about it. I think my music and art are emotions in a different form and until I'm ready or have realized how to share emotions I won't be able to be truly successful in those relationships and I don't really feel like connecting with people of art on intellectual level.

I'm not sure if anyone understands what I'm talking about, sometimes I can be quite vague :)
 
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No king oni i dont know why she wont tell but i do have her mob no but she hasnt contacted after i did text her i was upset and depressed she was moving. Maybe your right she doesnt want to be my friend,which i feel sad about.
 
I have a large number of casual friends and drinking friends. The kind of people I'll talk to over text message or during a party. But I only have about one friend when the matter comes to actual serious talk. So it really depends on what you consider a true friend to be.
 
People say it's better to have one friend that stands to millions rather than having a million friends that don't stand for one (i.e. me)

But I think in another way: if no one in the world fits my exacting demands as a friend, I can have a million friends with their a million possibilities to be the sort of composite friend that I am seeking
 
I know a few people whom I'm comfortable being around, mostly co-workers and a few other people. I don't consider myself social by nature, more by option. I don't mind being around some people or by myself, but I find myself needing to swing back and forth between social and non-social. If I want "friends" I can get them through various means, it's just that I don't have an overwhelming demand for them.

Even Dr. Temple Grandin said it so herself - it isn't the people she knows, it's what she does that makes life worth living and I can somewhat relate to this even though I'm not doing what I'd like to be doing in life.
 
Even Dr. Temple Grandin said it so herself - it isn't the people she knows, it's what she does that makes life worth living and I can somewhat relate to this even though I'm not doing what I'd like to be doing in life.

Well, it's what we do that really matters... Spot on, Jonathan :)
 

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