I understand 1 was aspergers (I think) and 3 was classic but was was 2? Did they just make that up for DSM-V
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Oh that's really unfortunate. I am glad more people are getting correct diagnosis. While I know the people diagnosed with those things today can get treatment depending on how old those people where those could have just all been synonyms for "bad person" and that is really unfortunate for people with those disorders as well.I know older people who were given the label of schizophrenia, borderline, bipolar, etc. :-(
I understand 1 was aspergers (I think) and 3 was classic but was was 2? Did they just make that up for DSM-V
Wow that is a lot of switching around labels...no wonder so many people (I guess me in this case me) get confused.ASD2 and ASD3 were both called autistic disorder in the DSM-IV. They never had separate labels. The DSM-5 merged 5 diagnoses (autistic disorder, Asperger's, Rett's, CDD, and PDD-NOS) into one spectrum with 3 levels of severity to indicate level of impairment. Before 1980, autism was called childhood schizophrenia. Some with milder ASD2 might not have met the criteria at the time.
...I was DX'd paranoid schizophrenic in 1980 or so. That led to me being put away and stuffed full of drugs. It ruined my life.
I understand 1 was aspergers (I think) and 3 was classic but was was 2? Did they just make that up for DSM-V
Paraphrased:
1 = mild - some support might be needed (can take care of self but might need assistance in certain areas)
2 = moderate - support needed (can take care of self to a degree but also needs assistance)
3 = severe - substantial support needed (can not take care of self, is totally dependent on assistance)
Originally only severe classic autism as defined by Leo Kanner was recognized. Later on Hans Asperger defined a much milder form of autism.
Somewhere in that process it was realized there were those who were in between Kanner's severe and Asperger's mild autism.
Actually
Level 1 autism
People with level 1 autism have noticeable issues with communication skills and socializing with others. They can usually have a conversation, but it might be difficult to maintain a back-and-forth banter.
Others at this level might find it hard to reach out and make new friends. According to the DSM-5, people who receive a diagnosis of level 1 autism require support.
Symptoms
Outlook
- decreased interest in social interactions or activities
- difficulty initiating social interactions, such as talking to a person
- ability to engage with a person but may struggle to maintain a give-and-take of a typical conversation
- obvious signs of communication difficulty
- trouble adapting to changes in routine or behavior
- difficulty planning and organizing
People with level 1 autism often maintain a high quality of life with little support. This support usually comes in the form of behavioral therapy or other types of therapy. Both of these approaches can help improve social and communication skills. Behavioral therapy can also help develop positive behaviors that might not come naturally.
Level 2 autism
The DSM-5 notes those with level 2 autism require substantial support. The symptoms associated with this level include a more severe lack of both verbal and nonverbal communication skills. This often makes daily activities difficult.
Symptoms
Outlook
- difficulty coping with change to routine or surroundings
- significant lack of verbal and nonverbal communication skills
- behavior issues severe enough to be obvious to the casual observer
- unusual or reduced response to social cues, communication, or interactions
- trouble adapting to change
- communication using overly simple sentences
- narrow, specific interests
People with level 2 autism generally need more support than those with level 1 autism. Even with support, they may have a hard time adjusting to changes in their environment.
A variety of therapies can help. For example, sensory integration therapy may be used at this level. It helps people learn how to deal with sensory input, such as:
Those with level 2 autism tend to also benefit from occupational therapy. This type of therapy helps people develop the skills they need to complete daily tasks, such as decision-making or job-related skills.
- off-putting smells
- loud or annoying sounds
- distracting visual changes
- flashing lights
Level 3 autism
This is the most severe level of autism. According to the DSM-5, those at this level require very substantial support. In addition to a more severe lack of communication skills, people with level 3 autism also display repetitive or restrictive behaviors.
Repetitive behaviors refer to doing the same thing over and over, whether it’s a physical action or speaking the same phrase. Restrictive behaviors are those that tend to distance someone from the world around them. This might involve an inability to adapt to change or narrow interests in very specific topics.
Symptoms
Outlook
- highly visible lack of verbal and nonverbal communication skills
- very limited desire to engage socially or participate in social interactions
- trouble changing behaviors
- extreme difficulty coping with unexpected change to routine or environment
- great distress or difficulty changing focus or attention
People with level 3 autism often need frequent, intensive therapy that focuses on a variety of issues, including communication and behavior.
They may also benefit from medication. While there’s no medication that treats autism specifically, certain drugs can help manage specific symptoms or co-occurring disorders, such as depression or trouble focusing.
Someone with this level of autism may also need a caregiver who helps them learn basic skills that will allow them to be successful in school, at home, or at work.
Btw im ASD 3 and i do live alone BUT i have and had support all my life from among others my VERY dear friend who has takend over my moms role as she sadly has Alziemers
Most level 3s I know of require a care home and need to be looked after.
Before I discovered that I was on the spectrum I was misdiagnosed Schizoaffective but I now know that these type of misdiagnosis are pretty common with those onI know older people who were given the label of schizophrenia, borderline, bipolar, etc. :-(
At the time of the DSM IV it used to be that if a person had autistic traits that limited their ability to cope, and also a significant speeech delay (didn't start speaking until after about 4 years old, if at all, then they would be diagnosed with autism, 'high functioning' for those who were more independent and needed less support.I understand 1 was aspergers (I think) and 3 was classic but was was 2? Did they just make that up for DSM-V
As long as we both can agree that NOT ALL needs to be in care homes and can live at home often WITH added support from the outside. Im okey with it my friend (i know utliest one member in here that is same as me that is also able to both have a husband and live alone without a care home)
I should also add that there is a debate on how the levels are to be described and how to difrence them all propley as they do have obvius flaws. As we can all agree on im shore based on our different opinions in this matter
At the time of the DSM IV it used to be that if a person had autistic traits that limited their ability to cope, and also a significant speeech delay (didn't start speaking until after about 4 years old, if at all, then they would be diagnosed with autism, 'high functioning' for those who were more independent and needed less support.
Actually
Level 1 autism
People with level 1 autism have noticeable issues with communication skills and socializing with others. They can usually have a conversation, but it might be difficult to maintain a back-and-forth banter.
Others at this level might find it hard to reach out and make new friends. According to the DSM-5, people who receive a diagnosis of level 1 autism require support.
Symptoms
Outlook
- decreased interest in social interactions or activities
- difficulty initiating social interactions, such as talking to a person
- ability to engage with a person but may struggle to maintain a give-and-take of a typical conversation
- obvious signs of communication difficulty
- trouble adapting to changes in routine or behavior
- difficulty planning and organizing
People with level 1 autism often maintain a high quality of life with little support. This support usually comes in the form of behavioral therapy or other types of therapy. Both of these approaches can help improve social and communication skills. Behavioral therapy can also help develop positive behaviors that might not come naturally.
Level 2 autism
The DSM-5 notes those with level 2 autism require substantial support. The symptoms associated with this level include a more severe lack of both verbal and nonverbal communication skills. This often makes daily activities difficult.
Symptoms
Outlook
- difficulty coping with change to routine or surroundings
- significant lack of verbal and nonverbal communication skills
- behavior issues severe enough to be obvious to the casual observer
- unusual or reduced response to social cues, communication, or interactions
- trouble adapting to change
- communication using overly simple sentences
- narrow, specific interests
People with level 2 autism generally need more support than those with level 1 autism. Even with support, they may have a hard time adjusting to changes in their environment.
A variety of therapies can help. For example, sensory integration therapy may be used at this level. It helps people learn how to deal with sensory input, such as:
Those with level 2 autism tend to also benefit from occupational therapy. This type of therapy helps people develop the skills they need to complete daily tasks, such as decision-making or job-related skills.
- off-putting smells
- loud or annoying sounds
- distracting visual changes
- flashing lights
Level 3 autism
This is the most severe level of autism. According to the DSM-5, those at this level require very substantial support. In addition to a more severe lack of communication skills, people with level 3 autism also display repetitive or restrictive behaviors.
Repetitive behaviors refer to doing the same thing over and over, whether it’s a physical action or speaking the same phrase. Restrictive behaviors are those that tend to distance someone from the world around them. This might involve an inability to adapt to change or narrow interests in very specific topics.
Symptoms
Outlook
- highly visible lack of verbal and nonverbal communication skills
- very limited desire to engage socially or participate in social interactions
- trouble changing behaviors
- extreme difficulty coping with unexpected change to routine or environment
- great distress or difficulty changing focus or attention
People with level 3 autism often need frequent, intensive therapy that focuses on a variety of issues, including communication and behavior.
They may also benefit from medication. While there’s no medication that treats autism specifically, certain drugs can help manage specific symptoms or co-occurring disorders, such as depression or trouble focusing.
Someone with this level of autism may also need a caregiver who helps them learn basic skills that will allow them to be successful in school, at home, or at work.
Btw im ASD 3 and i do live alone BUT i have and had support all my life from among others my VERY dear friend who has takend over my moms role as she sadly has Alziemers
Most people don't know this but autism can be caused solely by low intelligence. My understanding is care homes are mostly needed for people with ID (IQ < 70).
Before anyone gets upset, it's clearly listed in the DSM-5 (criteria E) that low IQ causes autism.
According to the DSM-5, people who receive a diagnosis of level 1 autism require support.
actually what i says is
E. These disturbances are not better explained by intellectual disability
Intellectual disability and autism spectrum disorder frequently co-occur; to make comorbid diagnoses of autism spectrum disorder and intellectual disability, social communication should be below that expected for general developmental level.