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Depressed About Still Being a Virgin

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I saw a YouTube video once and the speaker said something like this: when you are younger most women will not be interested in you because they are looking for something that they apparently can't find in you, but when they get older and wiser they will appreciate men like you a lot! Just be yourself, the right person will come at the right moment. It is different for everyone, don't compare yourself to others.
 
I'm twenty-two and I've never had sex. Still being a virgin is a frequent source of distress for me. Sometimes I get so depressed over it that I can't function, which is especially problematic since I'm a college student. It makes me feel like such a beta loser. I've been told not to give the virgin label so much weight, but that's hard to do when you're a guy. I've also been told there's nothing wrong with saving your virginity for the right woman, but I'm neither single nor a virgin by choice, which technically makes me an incel. That's another thing: I don't want to be an incel. I hate the incel community; it's a cesspool of misogyny, self-entitlement, and psychopathy in general. I'm afraid I'll eventually wind up falling under the influence of the incel hive mind. The shame of it all is getting too much for me to bear....
When I was your age, I felt much the same way. I didn't have sex until I was 38. I wish I could go back to the 22 year old me and tell that version of me that it doesn't matter when your first sex experience is. Each person grows and develops at their own time table. So I am going to pretend that you're me and I am going to tell you that there is nothing to be ashamed of. If any shame is to be had, it's this unnatural, unnecessary, and superficial push for men not to be virgins. I hated the movie 40 year old virgin. It was meant to be funny but all it did was reinforce all of what I hate in humanity.

So, my friend, don't be so hard on yourself. Give yourself time to grow and mature. When you do meet the right woman and you both have feelings for each other, just be honest with her and tell her this is going to be your first time. You might be very surprised how she regards you. I know I was. My first partner actually told me that she was impressed that I wouldn't just sleep with anyone.

I'll even confide that the woman I lost my virginity to I had no sexual compatibility with. She enjoyed it and I didn't. It wasn't until I had a fling with a woman I met on an airplane 3 years later that I actually enjoyed sex. This woman was amazing! So you also need the right partner as well. Please, please don't go so hard on yourself.
 
Yeah, I'm not particularly eager to have sex. It just seems primal and gross to me. But I still want to experience it at least.

One person's icky is another's ecstasy. It is very natural to connect with your primal self!

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I feel for you - in the sense that there is this societal pressure to lose virginity. If you can somehow get away from that aspect, I think you'd be happier. Sex shouldn't be your primary focus. It really isn't all that's cracked up to be, it's just a thing people do sometimes. There is no achievement in having it. But, I understand the curiosity aspect, to at least experience it.
Instead of sex being the focus, try to direct your attention in trying to build a relationship with someone. I know it's easier said than done, but by having that as a starting point you can maybe build on the areas that are missing there, communication skills you can work on, the way you present yourself. Self-improvement. That way, when you do eventually become intimate with someone, it will be more fulfilling because it'll be more meaningful.

Just please, stay away from ideas of 'incel's. It's a relatively modern and hateful community. Nothing good comes from it.
 
My first experience was with someone in which we cared about each other. I was 38. It was worth the wait even though we didn't work out as a couple. If you do it with someone in which you two care about each other, it makes all the difference in the world for most people. If you don't wait and want to hookup, that's okay too as long as the people involved are in agreement. Just try to keep it safe if you aren't with a partner you committed to. If you are, then you should be able to trust your partner enough not to use a condom eventually unless you two agreed to be in an open relationship.
 
I'm twenty-two and I've never had sex. Still being a virgin is a frequent source of distress for me. Sometimes I get so depressed over it that I can't function, which is especially problematic since I'm a college student. It makes me feel like such a beta loser. I've been told not to give the virgin label so much weight, but that's hard to do when you're a guy. I've also been told there's nothing wrong with saving your virginity for the right woman, but I'm neither single nor a virgin by choice, which technically makes me an incel. That's another thing: I don't want to be an incel. I hate the incel community; it's a cesspool of misogyny, self-entitlement, and psychopathy in general. I'm afraid I'll eventually wind up falling under the influence of the incel hive mind. The shame of it all is getting too much for me to bear....

The underlined sentence makes me think that you are dealing with obsessive thought action fusion, in that because you've had the the thought you're afraid that it's more likely to happen. This is an irrational and anxiety driven cognition, and does not mean that you will become something you do not wish to become.

In general it sounds like you're dealing with obsessive thought patterns (rumination, thought action fusion). Do you have OCD? Either way it sounds like you would benefit from seeing a cognitive behavioral therapist, especially one who is sex positive and works as a sex therapist as well. They'd be able to help you untangle any unhelpful thought patterns that are causing you shame or anxiety, as well as helping you navigate sexuality in a healthy and productive way.

Virginity is a construct that isn't based in any biological reality. We don't measure peoples lives in before/after constructs in any other area. Do we make a big deal about the first time someone goes rollerskating? Tattoos? Road trips? No we don't. We only do so concerning sex because were still holding onto bronze age concepts related to the ownership of female sexuality, and females as property. The concept of virginity arose after the agricultural revolution, when it became important for men to control and own their wives as producers of sons to have farm hands and inheritance receivers. Hunter gatherer societies on the other hand are much more egalitarian, with very flexible ideas of sexuality little to no regard to "virginity".

Sex seems mysterious and amazing if you've never had it, but it's really not all that special in of itself, and having it or not will not change the quality of your life in any significant way. If you are depressed before sex, you will still be depressed after sex. If you have anxiety or shame before, you still will have anxiety and shame after. Sex feels good sure, but so does masturbation.

So what about sex is it that you are *actually* wanting? Companionship? Physical pleasure? A partner to explore sexuality with? Physical touch? Romance? Or just relief from a social stigma?

Sorting that question out can help you figure out what the best course of action is for resolving your concerns. If you want just physical pleasure, there's plenty of porn and sex toys for men to help you have a very fullfilling sex life with yourself as your primary sex partner. A psychologist/sex therapist/life coach I listen to (Dr. Darrel Ray, Secular Sexuality Podcast) says that you are your own first sex partner and likely your last, so enjoy masturbating as much as you want and get in touch with your own body and what you really like.

If you're wanting a partner to explore sexuality with, you could always start with hiring a cam girl. You'd be amazed at how much they work with people who are exploring different aspects of sexuality for the first time, and how therapeutic their work can be and often is for their clients. There's no shame in or anything wrong with hiring someone like that to explore with, to talk to, or masturbate with. You may find it deeply fulfilling.

Do you just need physical touch from another human, but sex actually isn't really what you want? See a massage therapist. A good 30 minute massage will make you feel amazing, and fulfill a large part of that basic need for physical contact with another human.

Like I said, I think you would benefit from seeing a therapist who specializes in Cognitive Behavioral Therapy and sex therapy, or at least one or the other. They can help you sort out your shame and anxiety surrounding this topic, and help you to work out how best to navigate finding fulfillment.
 
I'm 36 and am still a virgin. It does get difficult as we as Aspies do have the same natural needs that NT's have. Just stay calm, your time will come I'm sure.
 
What's an incel? You are still young, don't give up hope and try to look in different places maybe. Also, never talk negatively about yourself in front of anyone, but especially someone of the opposite sex that you are interested in. It's a big turn off.
 
"Incels (a portmanteau of involuntary celibates) are members of an online subculture who define themselves as unable to find a romantic or sexual partner despite desiring one, a state they describe as inceldom. Self-identified incels are largely white and are almost exclusively male heterosexuals.

Discussions in incel forums are often characterized by resentment, misanthropy, self-pity, self-loathing, misogyny, racism, a sense of entitlement to sex, and the endorsement of violence against sexually active people."
Incel - Wikipedia

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Being a virgin sexually does not automatically make a person an incel.
Identifying oneself as an incel is a choice.
 
Hey, guys. Sorry I haven't visited the thread in such a long time. I want to thank you all for your advice and concern; it means the world to me:) I guess as an Aspie I've always wanted to fit in with my peers. I perceive losing my virginity as something of a male rite of passage, and deep down I still hold the fallacious belief that finally having sex would somehow make me normal. I'll consider setting aside some funds for therapy to help me through this cognitive mess of mine. Thank you all once again!
 
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Hey, guys. Sorry I haven't visited the thread in such a long time. I want to thank you all for your advice and concern; it means the world to me:) I guess as an Aspie I've always wanted to fit in with my peers. I perceive losing my virginity as something of a male rite of passage, and deep down I still hold the fallacious belief that finally having sex would somehow make me normal. I'll consider setting aside some funds for therapy to help me through this cognitive mess of mine. Thank you all once again!

@Mathophobe
Sex definitely isn't a rites of passage, and there's a lot of men and women out here (using that term loosely) having sex and the only reason they are called men or women is because they're legally considered an adult.. Sex won't make you more normal, It's a normal experience for many but honesty it will just complicate your relationships with women even more. When you do experience your first time please be responsible and know you have the emotional maturity to make that decision and then deal with the reactions that come afterwards. - Was once a stupid kid jumping in the sheets thinking that it made me a man when it didn't.
 
After I lost my virginity, he told me he cheated on me. I forgave him, and the next day he broke up with me.

Oh no, I was twenty-one! You missed your chance for this to happen to you! Nooooo! :eek:
 
I'm 26, nearing 27, and still a virgin. I simply don't care that much about it. Why should I? There are many other things I can focus on doing, like improving my mental health. Am I a "beta loser" for focusing on my mental health? Or is that just a rational thing to do?
 


i can relate.i got teased so relentlessly for being a virgin,i’ve come to hate those who “did it” with someone & not me,because the way i see it,sex & romance-wise,no girl or woman wants anything to do with any aspie like me,ever :(:(:mad::mad::mad::rage::rage::rage::rage:
I wouldn't discriminate against you if I knew you were an aspie. Low Latent Inhibition is hot, especially if your brain runs it as opposed to losing your mind control in the sense low functioning autists have. But their special talents are impressive. Im not sure if they are able to consent.
 
coming to this a bit late, but there is a speaker I follow who is also on the spectrum and she talks about autism and sexuality. the first talk of hers I saw:

good person to follow or learn from if it still is a bother for you.
 
I read about sexual services for disabled people such as in wheelchairs, blind people, there was a project being considered for it. Maybe part of social services or paid. Because such people have sexual needs too and are more vulnerable.
 
Being a virgin is not anything to be ashamed or embarrassed of at all. There are more virgins than you realize, afraid to admit they are. Truly, I wish more people had enough dignity and self-respect to not sleep around so much and brag about it It's nothing to really brag about, the unwanted children without stable homes to grow up in or the disease or problems it causes, not to mention the lack of respect for the women involved. It's very respectable to have a clean slate and trust me, people pressure other people because they don't wanna be the only ones doing this or that, deep down they envy you. Take your time, be selective and don't dwell on what you don't have. Focus on what you do have. Just like it can be an enjoyable experience, there can also be a lot of pain and heartache that comes with it too. Your personal life is none of anyone's business. Real men have morals and self-control and they make the best husbands and fathers too.
 
if someone judges ppl for their virginity you can tell how superficial they are and how much their opinions really matter or are thought of. They are likely weak issue full bullies which have not found a better way to feel better about themselves but to pick on superficial things and shame people so they seem better to fools who buy into such silly things.
 
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