"Rejection is part of life"

[FeatherBird]

My impression (base on reading many, but not all of your posts on this) is that you're only familiar with part of the process.

If you don't know how to "close", you should work on that for now.

Also, just so we're clear, there's widespread use of deliberate false signals in this game. If you're handling the "opening" and the "middle game" well, but always failing in the endgame, I suggest you review your entire process.

With all due respect, your post sounds somewhat contradictory.

On one hand, you make it sound like my high failure rate at closing means I'm somehow doing something wrong.

Yet then you also say there are a lot of deliberate false signals.

It could totally be that I'm doing something wrong, I admit. That being said, if deliberate false signals are really as common as you make it sound, isn't it equally likely I am doing everything right (and the signals were simply deliberate false signals, which is why I fail at closing)?

 

[Hypnalis]

If you want to keep talking with me, you need to act on the assumption that I'm not just making stuff up.

... you make it sound like my high failure rate at closing means I'm somehow doing something wrong.

This is you projecting.
I'm acting on the assumption that you are not achieving an objective. In which case this is just a technical discussion - your behavior can't be "right or wrong", but it can be more or less effective.

 

[Jonn]

Flirting is tricky territory.

Here's why: Even if I pick up on flirting, there's still the question of what I'm supposed to do about the flirting.

Is the woman looking for me to invite her to my bedroom?

Is the woman looking for me to ask her out on a simple date?

Or does the woman just want me to flirt back, with no intention of taking it beyond flirting?

The answer is different for every scenario (and there's no way for me to know). I don't want to risk humiliating myself by trying to take it beyond flirting, only to find out the woman didn't want to take it beyond flirting.

The classic:
"Coffee invite."

Baby steps...

 

[Jonn]

I suppose I could always ask a woman out after a flirt session to get my answer to the question of whether she'd like me to ask her out.

I can't bring myself to though. If it turned out the woman wasn't looking to be asked out, I'd blame my autism for the misreading on my part (and I'm extremely self-conscious about my autism)

-Coffee...
-Would you like to do something else...
-What are your interests?
-Talk about her, rather than yourself.

She would understand where this might lead to and may green-light or red-light you.
FYI:
"I have a boyfriend" is a red-light in a relationship context, obviously.

 

[FeatherBird]

The classic:
"Coffee invite."

Baby steps...

I'm not even willing to put myself in a position where a woman I need to cross paths with again turns down a mere coffee invite.

I cannot face a woman I got turned down by.

I seriously haven't asked out a woman I had reason to believe I'd cross paths with again since 2012.

Since then, it's been entirely online methods, cold approaches on total strangers, and organized singles events.