any one else ever think about just leaving?

[KassieMac]

Well Sir, That sounds like a great idea.

While it may sound like there's no way it could be done.
There is a way it could be done.

And also, the medical people maybe are moving towards this don't you think?, its just in medical prisons.

Also, would it need to be portable?. If its a place that is

A second society maybe?:
- All of the people who join it, would get together, plan, etc, have mostly the same mindset maybe. And most of all, there's NO leader. There's NO numbers.
- Own officers,

THE MAIN THING IS;
- ACCORDING TO WHAT THE MEDICAL PEOPLE say, people with real ASD can be EXTREMELY MOTIVATED.
And this type of idea, sounds quite good.

The main thing maybe, anyway is; that everyone is in together, everyone pretty much has all the same power. There's no leaders that some how are not really in it for US THE PEOPLE, WHO WANT TO join it, but for them selves, so that's what you would also want to do, To not let people who only want it for them selves and not want everyone to come together and enjoy it.

- Pretty much own government, and following Universal Law (so clearly no stealing,killing,etc) of course. all the basic laws. but then we check regarding stupid laws such as LSD for example. the law would be for some laws changed, e.g: LSD = Legal.

Its about creating a second society. REALLY GUYS, If people are TRULY MOTIVATED TO THE HEART AND ARE OPEN TO IT, THEN LETS ROCK !!!..
Think back to history, then think of how it would be done. Also read more info about what amazing people have written and said regarding how people work together and everything.

And I'm not talking about people just becoming really advanced in outer space and flying (THAT IS NOT THE POINT), the point is we as whole, everyone or pretty much all the good, everyone on this beautiful planet earth are equal, no numbers and no leading bullshite.

Really, lets admit the current laws are very ****ed up, and are only making the evil people that control everything become more evil and with more power while

How would it work out maybe?:
- Well first of all, before everything there would need to be some sort of registration for people, and this would be brought to the countries, or that the people send it via post,etc . But that there's some type of HQ maybe, or a couple of HQ'S.

Come together and build, if people with ASD are truly motivated for this, and all together, this may be something beautiful.

Hate to burst your bubble, but utopian societies have been attempted before. There's no DNA test for autism or Aspergers and the more evil/selfish they are, the better they are at faking sincerity. We've all been fooled before.

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[1911]

Well, now I am curious. What would your vision of this community be?

Mine is so simple, but admittedly imperfect. Basically just circa 1800's frontier type living, but with some of the improvements time has brought u. Like the better hunting equipment, solar panels to run some appliances (refrigerators, mixers, ect). You would rely on me, I would rely on you. If you don't contribute, you don't get the contribution from the rest of the community (unless someone is feeling charitable).

Thats the broad stroke of my idea.
How about you?

 

[KassieMac]

Well, now I am curious. What would your vision of this community be?

Mine is so simple, but admittedly imperfect. Basically just circa 1800's frontier type living, but with some of the improvements time has brought u. Like the better hunting equipment, solar panels to run some appliances (refrigerators, mixers, ect). You would rely on me, I would rely on you. If you don't contribute, you don't get the contribution from the rest of the community (unless someone is feeling charitable).

Thats the broad stroke of my idea.
How about you?

I like some aspects, but getting off their grid is no reason to reject technology. Enough of us love technology, we can sustain our own separate grid. I like being the pale, pasty geek that lives online & rarely steps outside, why should I have to give that up? I will not give up air conditioning & go back to The Stone Age.

And what if one is physically incapable of contributing? Do we just turn them out & forget them? The more I hear about this, the less I like it. Next you'll be telling me I'm not a 'true Aspie' because I disagree or have a different vision. Can we please get back to empathy, compassion, & inclusion? I won't become the thing that 'they' already judge me to be. Just my 2¢

 

[GoofKing]

Is this thread about becoming a hermit ? Because I would love to leave this world and their silly stupid problems behind and be able to become so invested in my obsessions, that I completely leave reality (or whatever society thinks should be reality) ...

The only problem is that I'm a human being too and need social interaction as well, just like everyone else. Isn't it natural for humans to have a need to interact with other humans ? I always though of it as a sanity check where something about socializing with other people somehow synchronizes brain waves ...

 

[1911]

[OTE="KassieMac, post: 127510, member: 10930"]I like some aspects, but getting off their grid is no reason to reject technology. Enough of us love technology, we can sustain our own separate grid. I like being the pale, pasty geek that lives online & rarely steps outside, why should I have to give that up? I will not give up air conditioning & go back to The Stone Age.

And what if one is physically incapable of contributing? Do we just turn them out & forget them? The more I hear about this, the less I like it. Next you'll be telling me I'm not a 'true Aspie' because I disagree or have a different vision. Can we please get back to empathy, compassion, & inclusion? I won't become the thing that 'they' already judge me to be. Just my 2¢[/QUOTE]

Not sure you took that the way I wanted it to be took.
By the "circa 1800's frontier" kinda life, I was meaning the way the wilderness camps in the US were self reliant, needing no outside contribution.
And as for those who are physically unable to contribute, there are ways that they can be of benefit, too. Resource management, manpower management, just to name two things that done much need any physical abilities.

As for ones with your preferences, any technology used, like maybe a computer network (running off of those solar pannels I mentioned) would need maintaining.

So, you see. I'm not talking about casting anyone out to die in the forest. Everyone has skills that can be helpful in my grain of haven.

 

[KassieMac]

Is this thread about becoming a hermit ? Because I would love to leave this world and their silly stupid problems behind and be able to become so invested in my obsessions, that I completely leave reality (or whatever society thinks should be reality) ...

The only problem is that I'm a human being too and need social interaction as well, just like everyone else. Isn't it natural for humans to have a need to interact with other humans ? I always though of it as a sanity check where something about socializing with other people somehow synchronizes brain waves ...

You may want to re-read my post. I never said anything about being a hermit or cutting off all social contact. I'd be more than happy to hang out & chat with anyone who comes inside to enjoy the a/c or play with the tech. I'd just prefer not to be excluded just because I'm not the 'outdoorsy type'.

Not sure you took that the way I wanted it to be took.
By the "circa 1800's frontier" kinda life, I was meaning the way the wilderness camps in the US were self reliant, needing no outside contribution.
And as for those who are physically unable to contribute, there are ways that they can be of benefit, too. Resource management, manpower management, just to name two things that done much need any physical abilities.

As for ones with your preferences, any technology used, like maybe a computer network (running off of those solar pannels I mentioned) would need maintaining.

So, you see. I'm not talking about casting anyone out to die in the forest. Everyone has skills that can be helpful in my grain of haven.

I took it as it was written, I don't presume to know the thoughts behind your words. Self-reliance is great, I just don't see the need for the 1800s frontier-style life. I did state that we would have to create our own separate grid, and I know the Aspie community has the talents & skills to maintain it … far more efficiently than the grid we're on now, and likely enjoy the work. That is not an obstacle, it's an opportunity. Maybe when I said "physically incapable" I should have explained my definition … the brain (including the thoughts, emotions, and behaviors that come from it) are part of the physical body; there is no separation. "Physically incapable" includes limitations of communication, anxiety or distress, etc. While I believe that we can reach through those barriers, too often I've seen people excluded & blamed because no one was willing to do the work of reaching out to them. So if someone is crippled by anxiety, the group can't just pressure them to find a way to be useful while adding to their anxiety & driving them into a downward spiral. The members of such a society would be better served by striving to help each other instead of keeping score of how much each person contributes to the whole. Honestly, isn't that exactly what we're trying to get away from?

 

[AsIstAga]

Only if it includes a murder mystery

Like a fake murder right!? We aren't trying to off any Aspies in our group..I hope. Lol

 

[AsIstAga]

Would we have our own Aspie run health care? With Aspie professionals in those areas? Or do we need to stay connected somehow to the NT worlds hospitals...? Lol (ya know, like if the murder-that-would-be-mystery goes wrong & somehow the victim gets away with just a grazed bullet wound and a broken arm!?) ....where do I bring said guy!? my thinker ticks on, & on!!!

 

[Timmy1]

Hate to burst your bubble, but utopian societies have been attempted before. There's no DNA test for autism or Aspergers and the more evil/selfish they are, the better they are at faking sincerity. We've all been fooled before.

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well not me then. matbe most of al l asd or if that is asd or even because well i dont have asd because my "aso called "asd" is caused by past drug addiction,sleep extreme problems and isolation.dwithdrawland other all i nthe one go later in life, which caused problems, then the docs started talking to me and they changed me . so i dont have asd deep down.


btwww folks, Ilet me tell you, doctors, with all their degress, they know some good ****, really. they tricked me into haveing asd by just talking to meh

 

[AsIstAga]

well not me then. matbe most of al l asd or if that is asd or even because well i dont have asd because my "aso called "asd" is caused by past drug addiction,sleep extreme problems and isolation.dwithdrawland other all i nthe one go later in life, which caused problems, then the docs started talking to me and they changed me . so i dont have asd deep down.


btwww folks, Ilet me tell you, doctors, with all their degress, they know some good ****, really. they tricked me into haveing asd by just talking to meh

Meth? ....I enjoy, think MJ really does help sooth many of my Aspie traits! But I can see how Docs can play the "chicken vs egg" logic puzzle on that one to try to convince us that we made ourselves this way on PURPOSE!? We are like the X Men being profiled and oppressed by a system of ("common sense" NT minds!)...Albert Einstein is thought to have been an Aspie, he said "Common sense is the accumulation of prejudices learned by age 18!" And this gem..."Great genius has always encountered violent opposition from mediocre minds!" ..so, did he not suffer a similar understanding of the struggle? Ok, sermon is over!

 

[AgentPalpatine]

As in most things in life, "One size does not fit all". Some people would prefer a more rural environment, some would prefer a small village/town, some prefer a suburban area, some people prefer an urban area.

 

[gregmcph]

I would love to live in a log cabin out in the middle of nowhere. I have always loved just going for walks in the woods alone. I get tired of the rat race, struggling to pay bills. Seems so pointless.

I was on a short holiday in the mountains of Tasmania. Near Lake Mountain. And I passed an abandoned farmhouse. Falling apart. And this fantasy filled me of fixing it up inside, but letting the outside remain looking derelict. Install solar power so it could remain off the grid. Live a quiet life away from the humans.

 

[Flinty]

I've thought about it. Then I remember that my brothers used to trap. Our basement had a constant disgusting smell due to that; even the cat couldn't stand to be around mink and beaver "meat". A life of skinning animals is not for me.

 

[annominous]

I know I'm reviving and old thread here, and I apologise if that's problematic. But, I did what everyone is talking about on the Big Island in Hawai'i for a little over two years. It was hard. This is the shack I built with $4k. I had no electricity, running water, or phone. If I had stayed away from people properly, I would have been better off, but the people are all over the planet.

 

[abby normal]

I thought now and then, that if only I had a few hundred billion $macker$ I could build a rocket ship that could take me to phobos or deimos where I might be able to build some kind of sci-fi underground shelter where I could live out my days.

 

[epath13]

Many times, but every time I recognize: I'm just trying to escape from my apparent inability to deal with given life/ situation. Because giving up is not in my vocabulary I quickly abandon those thoughts and try to figure out how to make the best out of the time I have left.

 

[fredvizsla]

I ran away unintentionally. I was finishing grad school and there was a gap of 6 months before I could get my last class in, so I took off in my truck and tiny trailer (no bathroom, cooking or heat) to wander around during that interval; I never went back. I took an accident and $$$ problems 3 years later to bring me back to civilization. I think the key to it working is mobility: if I didn't like where I was (too many people, or aggravating people) I just left. It taught me that the circumstances that produce happiness are special to each person, and some of us NEED the option to be away from people. I met lots of people who were "nomads for life" and they weren't dangerous or crazy or anything like that.

 

[garnetflower13]

I have a brother who is Autistic, and who lives a nomadic life. To the establishment, he was considered a chronic "runaway" in his teens. Sometimes the police would bring him back, but when he found family life unbearable he would run away again. I privately called it "going walkabout." I also envied him. Being female, this just wouldn't have worked for me, but I often longed to join him!

 

[cargenx75]

This is exactly my plan. As soon as my son graduates, I am off to Montana...or maybe Alaska...to be a hermit! I can't wait!

 

[dragonless]

Living off the grid had always been my dream, long before that term became popular. As a kid whenever i 'took a walkabout' it was into the wilderness. i studied living off the land, building my own cabin, living a self contained life away from normal humans, away from the superficiality, greed, wanton destruction of nature - that which i couldn't understand. Being female (with only books as guides), accomplishment of these dreams seemed far-fetched. Eventually i lived with a man who built his own sailboats and lived aboard, free to sail or set anchor where we wanted. It was as close to a perfect life for me as i would ever enjoy.