• Welcome to Autism Forums, a friendly forum to discuss Aspergers Syndrome, Autism, High Functioning Autism and related conditions.

    Your voice is missing! You will need to register to get access to the following site features:
    • Reply to discussions and create your own threads.
    • Our modern chat room. No add-ons or extensions required, just login and start chatting!
    • Private Member only forums for more serious discussions that you may wish to not have guests or search engines access to.
    • Your very own blog. Write about anything you like on your own individual blog.

    We hope to see you as a part of our community soon! Please also check us out @ https://www.twitter.com/aspiescentral

Blog 10: On Being a Weird Loner

As the press pundits, experts & sages pontificated away on CNN, a common theme emerged. They didn't flat out spew it out like barf so it was right there, but they implied it over & over again. What is this 'IT' I'm obliquely referring to?

Simple: we quiet loners who keep to ourselves are a bunch of dangerous whack-jobs who ought to be dragged out & forced to socialize, have NTs come include us in their shenanigans & if these strategies fail, we ought to be LOCKED AWAY (in very humane well-tended asylums) for society's safety. Since this latest killer was an Aspie, a computer nerd & a quiet loner who kept to himself, these are all 'indicators' of 'trouble'.

Here's the thing: I'm sitting here in the pitch dark right now. With my grey sleep hoodie on, red tartan sleep pants, bright red socks & my eyes glued to my laptop. Add a lack of any facial expression & I look weirder than a 3 headed cat right now. I haven't left the house in 3 days nor have I called anyone for social purposes in I can't recall how long. I'm not angry, but I'm not happy or sad or anything else in particular emotion-wise. While I'm not a gamer, I have a lot of knowledge & info about serial killers, mass murderers & suchlike. I do feel something: I'm vaguely chilly & tired. Am I lonely? Hell, no! Do I want to be included in a bunch of social hoopla that interests me about as much as belly-button lint? Uh...no. So many so-called signs & portents are present in me that it's almost funny.

If one of these CNN experts were to spot me now, they'd tape me up & cart me off to the booby hatch immediately! "Put her into a facility!" They'd decry, " Before she *snaps* & does something awful. It's really for her own protection, you know. We can medicate her & help her emerge from her shell. She'll make friends & eventually she may be rehabilitated!"

Sounds wrong-headed but benign. They really do want to help. don't be fooled! This is NT socially correct double-talk for, "We're scared of anyone who doesn't live how we do & want what we want. We can't understand these people so let's lock them away for OUR protection. We can experiment on them, force them into situations they don't enjoy & document what happens. Then, after a sufficient amount of forced social trauma & forced medicating, she'll be nothing but a harmless zombie-like passive lump."

While there are some bad apple Aspies, they are rare birds indeed & it isn't due to Asperger's but other things going on in their heads & in their lives. The same is true of NTs. BUT when one of them does something horrendous, they suddenly lose their status as NTs & get shoved into some convenient ND category, thus sparing NTs from having to ask themselves some uncomfortable questions about the validity of their presumptive normality. I've always believed that the constant social games, deceptiveness, insincerity, vagaries & shifty facial grimacing of NTs were indicative of some kind of syndrome- one that is many times more likely to give rise to the sorts of misunderstandings & perceived insults that lead to violence.

For most Aspies, if they could afford the privilege of true financial security, most of their personal anxieties would be relieved. Most jobs require social interaction & a keen understanding of social cues. For many of us, this is untenable. Those of us fortunate enough to have found a profitable niche (there are many very successful Aspies out there) are doing a lot better mentally than our less prosperous kin. Same is true about broke cash-strapped NTs: financial insecurity IS depressing!

The social exclusion, many of us can deal with & find friendship elsewhere on comfortable terms (like HERE). It's the lack of a means for providing for ourselves economically that is crippling because almost everything in life is predicated on having money. Without it, so much is controlled by others & we are severely limited & life can feel hopeless.

Comments

I want to put a disclaimer up front to take this with a grain of salt. Things are slightly exaggerated, but blowing things out of proportion helps to illustrate points very well I found.

If we're going to blame Asperger's for being the cause, then let's look at it from a different perspective.

What if; The Aspergical mind processes personal drama in a different way? Cause I'm quite sure no one, no aspie, no NT person... generally speaking (though exceptions apply), will be out and trigger happy just for the heck of it. I'm quite sure there was a push somewhere. And much like what The Joker said (from the Batman comics and movies); it just takes a little push.

That being said; If there would be serious repercussions for being an aspie I see the following few things happen.

  • NT people (or at least the non-aspies) will still complain about how much it costs to tend for "us" in said asylums. They're already complaining about people in prison that actually DID things, and the expenses they bring. This will also increase the number of facilities we need as well as staff. If we're having a gross underemployment rate in that field now, that's gonna be interesting for sure. At some point the inmates are running the asylum... (and to be honest, I think it's a more structured and fun place to be). All joking aside; I recently read in a dutch report how much a dutch psychiatric inmate costs society/the government. A whopping half a million euro (that's about 660.000 USD) per year. How many... potential... wait... let's emphasize that PO-TEN-TIAL similar cases do we have in this country? Worldwide?
  • Aspies will try really hard to act like they're normal. People will not seek out diagnosis, and those who have will try really hard to blend in... until... that bomb explodes. Then, the **** hits the fan, and I'm quite sure we'll be at a point where we make it mandatory for everyone to get screened yearly for any slight divergent behaviour. I think you're running for a lot more very combustible aspies who are forced by something and to some extent driven by instinct to survive... I'm quite sure that survival instinct can rear it's ugly en in some of us (and I doubt it's just in aspies).
  • Aspies group up and they're not the weird loner anymore. It's like a flock of weird people, and in a world where majority rules... in a group of 5 socially awkward aspie, the one NT that's not socially awkward, is in fact.. the weird one out.

The thing that bothers me, and really, I don't want to end up bashing NT people, even if my social group of such people is really, really, really limited (heck, my social group is just aspies... currently, all 2 of them; used to be 5.. all aspies), is that I find it true arrogance for anything that can be named "-typical" or "different" to take majority rules perspective. I believe something similar happened somewhat 70 years ago in Germany. Then, it was based on the belief that some religion (and the people following that relgion) were less and unfit for society. Before that, it was a racial issue. And let's not forget sexism which has been running rampant for the past few centuries (probably before that, but now is when it's a clear cut persecution cause; prominently less in western countries now, but the 50's still had a clear gender role model. 150 years ago I reckon being a woman was totally different deal).

Here's an interesting question; Could you persecute everyone in a bar for being a potential drunk causing problems?
 
Interesting (about the drunks). Here in QC there is a law that holds bar owners partially responsible under the law if they continue serving alcohol to a patron & that patron goes our, gets into his car, drives off & kills someone. I could see the gov't here trying to find some way to apply this to Aspies' guardians should they go AWOL.

I can really see people bit@#!ng about how much it costs to keep all us potential maniacs locked up in nut-houses. Since so many of us are more intelligent IQ-wise than the average NT, I could see the gov't turning the wings that house us into work/residential 'care' facilities. Those with computer skills or other abilities will find ourselves with a full-time tax-paying job BUT without the freedoms other tax-payers enjoy.

Another sticky issue for the NT pundits is, which 'potentially dangerous' categories of persons do we lock up? Any guy going through a divorce wherein there is some history of domestic violence is more of a time-bomb than any Aspie. they account for a huge number of spousal murders. Then, do we lock up every person with Foetal Alcohol Syndrome? Then, too we must consider all males in foster care since 70% of all felons in Canadian prisons were once guests of the foster care system, taking this pre-emptive step seems sound. By the time they're through locking up assorted dingbats, nutters, possible maniacs & suchlike, there will be nobody left!

The only way to reasonably determine what the dangers are (re guys going bananas & shooting or making the decision to do so) would be to look at every single school/mall/workplace mass murder case, make a list of all the commonalities, adjust these for age & sex, then figure out, for each category, what the odds are of such a person committing mass murder. Even with all that, I'd bet that the % age of young men who tick all the boxes & actually do lash out with mass murderous consequences are exquisitely rare.

The lock-up idea is but a foolish fantasy that will prove impossible for modern western societies to pull off. I can see them providing more in-patient beds for teens & young adults with severe mental problems & explosive rage. Rather than just using in-patient care for a few days to 2 wks of stop-gap emergency care, longer periods might allow for some people to benefit from therapy & medical attention & yield more lasting results. Right now, they just hold young people until the shrink is convinced that the person is no longer an immediate danger to themselves or others. A smart Aspie kid could easily convince them by telling them whatever he knows they want to hear & looking sincere.

Frankly, since drugging people is so much more economical, I could see the gov't trying to institute a mandatory drugging programme for all those deemed to be iffy.
 
Heh... yeah, at some point nobody will be left. If you ask me, everyone is a potential danger. Over here in The Netherlands, we've had similar shootings... and none of them were aspies. In fact, the most gruesome deeds were in fact done by cops going crazy and shooting their own families or opening fire elsewhere.

Does that make it so that we should isolate cops for just their job and prohibit them from having any family ties?

As for the drunks; we have some laws, and some make it somewhat silly. But in a way they make the patron more responsible. Technically, no one may be in the streets drunk (drinking alcohol in the streets is against the law here). But the patron has to close up in time since that's a law as well. So he pretty much has to make sure that people are sobered up if he closes. They don't state that law, but that's what it comes down to. From the frequent barvisits my parents did I know all to well all the times they came home with a cab. The patron called one and the cab brought them home. No harm done so far.

It's interesting to think about responsibility and guardians. I'm quite sure my parents have no clue what Asperger's even is. To them it's autism, but... even though my mom has a child psychology degree of sorts, it's all a bit "it can be a lot". I don't know if they... at their 65th year are still up for taking care of me and being responsible for me. My parents are already having a hard time dealing with their own life. And what if you have no guardian? Does that warrant immediate lock up?

Those care-facilities... I believe they used to be called Gulag's in the Soviet Union back then. When Stalin ran the joint. It's interesting to think about it. If they could create jobs like that... why can't they right now? I'm quite sure if jobs in care facilities like you describe would be a reality (and yes, I'm fully aware that this is just a bit of toying around with "what if"-scenario's), I can see people revolting against it because... aspies take their jobs.

I still stand my point that IF healthcare was better (at least in the US) and there were to be listened to those with ill intentions and not make them a possible criminal ready for jail, there could be something done about it. Sometimes it's small things that will help those people to get their life back on track. A lot can be avoided by listening and creating a plan with a professional. I'm well aware that not all people are good speakers and as such might have a hard time expressing themselves, but it will decrease those things from happening.
 
When thinking about these issues, John Steinbeck's novel "Of Mice and Men" comes to mind. One of the characters, Lenny, has some kind of mental problem. He is obsessed with soft things, like rabbits. He is also starting to feel sexual urges. He ends up raping and killing the wife of a farmhand where he works. His friend knows that Lenny has had issues and he also knows that Lenny won't last long in jail, if indeed he makes it there. So he takes Lenny down to the river and shoots him as an act of kindness.

The way Steinbeck tells the story it's pretty hard to condemn Lenny's friend for his action. I can see all kinds of arguments right now in favor of euthanizing the potential Adam Lanzas of this world to save the rest of us trouble and money. All it takes is a few court rulings, and bam! we've lost our rights.
 

Blog entry information

Author
Soup
Read time
3 min read
Views
6,670
Comments
4
Last update

More entries in General

  • Executive functioning
    Not that long ago, I found out what executive functioning means. Once I understood what it was...
  • I have an idea
    I have started looking into the idea of a dual layered system. Masking and a psychological...
  • Primary sources
    I submitted an assignment recently about primary sources re: Charlemagne's coronation (800CE)...
  • Grades are starting
    Grade one starts. I remember the teacher saying I was "gifted". Now "gifted" didnt mean you were...
  • Hiding
    Have you ever been in a crowded room yet felt so alone? Always. Spent much of my life busy. In a...

More entries from Soup

Share this entry

Top Bottom