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what would an aspie world look like?

What is your opinion on the hate spewing Terry Jones who I am so glad we kicked out of Gainesville! While I believe in his right to be a scum bag I
like the idea our county had in charging him for all the valuable police protection he got during his hate filled rant.
 
When I see Terry Jones, I will ask him why he thinks the way it is. And then, I'll publish an interview to... show the world.

An Aspie world will know who are the Terry Jones, locking them up in old-school gaols, since they live in prehistoric times and don't fit into modernity. Well, ask yourselves Aspies, if we have to put up with discrimination and unemployment because we can't fit in, aren't these racist or religious fundamentalists even worse than us, since they chose to insist on their religion but we can't choose the world we live in, and the conditions that we have (well, for most of the parts)?

An Aspie world will be a just and forward-looking world. Just my opinions.
 
Should I post a topic on Auth and the series in another thread? I dun think I want to crowd this topic with Authling info.

which section should I post it
 
It sure looks like many people want to discuss Auth so a separate thread is a good idea. As for where to post it, check out the options & choose the one you think suits it best.

As for that Terry Jones, he is definitely another idiot. HOWEVER, freedom of speech isn't just for people most of us happen to like, agree with, approve of & respect. Even complete jack@$$e$ have the same rights. That is what freedom ensures. The disturbing truth about Jones is that he is expressing aloud & doing what many people privately are also thinking. I've heard so many people engaged in what they thought were private chit chats in public spaces express views on Islam worthy of Terry Jones. There are many films produced & openly distributed by Atheists that mock Christianity & Jesus blatantly. the difference is that Christians are highly unlikely (in this day & age, any ways...) to take to the streets & begin burning, killing & destroying in alleged protest. Nobody singles out these Atheists for arrest & persecution. Utter a peep about not liking, respecting or 'believing in' the prophet Mohammed or any other aspect of Islam & things start blowing up & people get killed.

Although I am an Atheist, I am completely open to people going to church or wherever else to worship using whichever so-called holy book they prefer: just leave me the hell out of it, please. Your religious hat, be it a yarmulke, turban, scarf or fez, is of no consequence to me. I wear hoodies & often a plain black tuque or beanie under it. Please don't assume I'm a bank robber, purse snatcher or unabomber & I'll just assume you're a person with a fez.

You can write the most scathing critique of Atheism you can muster & I'll read it (or not, if I don't feel like it). I may disagree, BUT I won't blow up your property, threaten your life limb & safety, rant & rave in the streets like a lunatic & burn you in effigy & use 'insult to my way of thinking' as an apologetic for limiting your freedom of expression.

The uncomfortable truth is that terrorism & 911 HAS radically changed our 'way of life' in the west. Islamic militancy has us running scared & afraid to openly critique any aspect of either Islam, Mohammed or Sharia law for fear of allegedly 'triggering' a terrorist attack or 'inspiring' killings or violent protests in the streets.

I would advocate for reinforcing such freedom of speech in Asperia. We Aspies tend to be rather outspoken (better than saying we 'lack' social filters) & tell it as we see it. This ability to cut through thick layers of social B.S. & niceties & get to the crux of things could make for much more efficiently run systems.

The concept of 'respecting' the views of others has never been clearly defined. Can I critique or even 'de-bunk' some religion, philosophy or belief? Must I use science or reason? When does it become disrespectful & why am I to blame if you choose to become offended? I don't control your emotional responses.

A Devil's advocate question: Why must I express 'respect' for someone's religion or a tenet of their religion if, in truth, I have no respect for it whatsoever? I do NOT respect the tenet of Sharia law that advocates cutting the right hand off of a thief. Punitive mutilation is a vestige of dark ages cruelty to me that I believe ought to have been swept into the dustbin of history a thousand years ago. Shall we then permit the eyes to be gouged out of peeping toms? Am I now to blame if a bunch of hotheads take to the streets & wreak havoc?
 
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What burns me is if the media just ignored his ignorant rant it would have fizzled out rather quickly he really did not deserve any attention.
What do you think of Alachua county's idea of making him foot the bill for all the police protection he wasted I rather like the idea!
 
It's an old thread, but I'm reviewing all my old posts...

This is a topic which will always be asked I suspect. Maybe it needs a little more definition. Is the question:

"What would this current world be like if it was run by aspies?"

or is it

"What would the world be like if it was only populated by aspies?"

I have a feeling that even if aspies were "in charge" of this current human population, who would listen to them anyway? Since when do nt people listen!?!

Since the world is 99% non-aspie, I think it will never be run properly. The bad stuff will continue indefinitely. I am not being depressing. I am being neutral (I think). But, the good stuff will continue too!

A human population consisting solely of aspies, would be interesting to say the least!
 
Wow! I am frequently corrected for being so "them" vs. "us" on this forum, but I don't think an all Aspie world could be perfect. I've told the story before about the Meyers-Briggs exercise in which we worked on a problem with only our own type people. We were comfortable and polite and we did not provide the best solutions. We do benefit from contact with differing people. All I would ask of any group, majority or minority, is that they make themselves aware of group differences and tolerate each other. We all have something to contribute. Please listen to each other with tolerance and an open mind.
 
Aspieistj said:
Wow! I am frequently corrected for being so "them" vs. "us" on this forum, but I don't think an all Aspie world could be perfect. I've told the story before about the Meyers-Briggs exercise in which we worked on a problem with only our own type people. We were comfortable and polite and we did not provide the best solutions. We do benefit from contact with differing people. All I would ask of any group, majority or minority, is that they make themselves aware of group differences and tolerate each other. We all have something to contribute. Please listen to each other with tolerance and an open mind.
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What one might forget that, if you have exercises to solve problems, these are problems based on things of this world. Who is to say that an aspie world would have the same problems and the same implications?

Not saying there wont be any problems, but for what it's worth, the gravity, dynamics and outcome of potential problems could also be totally different.

It's probably like making someone solve a problem, while this person might not even consider something, that is being forced upon them as an exercise, a problem.

Tarragon said:
This is a topic which will always be asked I suspect. Maybe it needs a little more definition. Is the question:

"What would this current world be like if it was run by aspies?"

or is it

"What would the world be like if it was only populated by aspies?"

I have a feeling that even if aspies were "in charge" of this current human population, who would listen to them anyway? Since when do nt people listen!?!

Since the world is 99% non-aspie, I think it will never be run properly. The bad stuff will continue indefinitely. I am not being depressing. I am being neutral (I think). But, the good stuff will continue too!

A human population consisting solely of aspies, would be interesting to say the least!
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Those are actually 2 interesting, and different perspectives.

Who would listen to them? Well, no one said how rules are enforced. For what it's worth it could be an aspie council dictatorship. And if you project that on a global scale there literally is no "but, this other country has it better". It would just turn into "do as I say".
 
King_Oni said:
Maybe aspies got things done because of a neurotypical world.

The thing I feel with aspies is that even though we all have the same disorder (let's just keep it at this for simplicity), we don't all have equal ways of doing things. Some aspies tend to go more of a sociopath route, some of us are more "held back" because of inhibitions and some will actually want to get stuff done. And similarly some aspies like to do drugs, drink and enjoy "illegal" activities. I don't know if that's something that goes along with asperger's, but to put it this way... there are bad people, even among aspies.

I'm quite sure that there would be less of a social drama going on with aspies in general, but even aspies tend to disagree rather violently (even if it's just in terms of arguments and "wordfights") sometimes.

Also; "In an ideal world"... in an ideal world employment rates would be different, social services would be different, maybe even technological progress would be different. It's hard to how it all pans out. I'm quite sure that if you'd put it like "Imagine everyone would be an aspie right now"... a lot of laws still would not make sense globally. And if those laws weren't there since aspies were there since the beginning of time, then the cookie might have crumbled a totally different way. Perhaps the "first aspie" got set in motion BECAUSE of a NT world.
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You have got a point there: not all autistic people are good people.
 
It would probably be a much more "transparent" world.

Thing is, that could be really good, or really bad depending on the circumstances.
 
I personally feel that knowledge and wisdom would be far more respected than what they are currently.
The saddest aspect of life right now is that our society gathers knowledge faster than it gathers wisdom.
Aspies everywhere are productive in the sense that we all have our own obsessions that we own! We completely know and understand our obsessions.
How much knowledge, how much understanding, and how much wisdom could come from 7 billion people on the Autism Spectrum?! :)
 
Just as a follow up to this, there is a really funny book I've come across called "The field guide to Earthlings: an Autistic/Asperger view of neurotypical behaviour" by Ian Ford

It's so nice to have the tables turned, and read about us trying to accommodate their strange behaviour patterns for a change! :)
 
EricD said:
If you want a look at an Aspie world, Vulcan is your destination!
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Did you know Vulcan was the Roman god of the forge and fire? He was identified with Hepaistos from Greek religion. In the days before Einstein's revisions to the theory of gravitation, the orbit of Mercury was difficult to compute. It didn't seem to follow the same rules as the other planets. So another planet was proposed to tug on Mercury gravitationally, and Vulcan became the name of a planet for the first time. Relativity proved that no such planet existed, but protrayals of Spock's homeworld retain some of that history--very hot, very bright sun, dry, rocky.
 
We are largely more logical, concrete thinkers. What was the line from Jurassic Park? Just because something can be done doesn't mean it should be done. I think it was Dr Alan Grant who said it, & now that I think about it, he was a little Aspieish.
 
If the current world was run by aspies there would be better opportunities for diagnosis, social skills training and information and teaching in schools for NTs about aspergers and autism.

Otherwise there would still be a wide range of views on what is best and how things should be run.

I don't understand quite how it would work though. I want to live in a democracy where people get a say about the way decisions are taken so I suspect that pretty quickly NTs would mostly be in power simply due to the ratio of NT to aspies and auties in the world. To remain in power the aspie representatives would need to get to understand everyone they represent obviously including NTs.
 
I just posted about aspies running the world as it is. Now if aspies were in the majority or the whole world was full of aspies I think
it would still be a very diverse world given that aspies are not just one homogenous group. Things would be a lot more transparent and open. It would be quieter and a lot more routines and timetables stuck to. There would still be room for genius, but a diversity and different abilities would be accepted as just as valid.
 
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