Sadism: help please!

[thejuice]

If he is ASPD taunting him will be water off a ducks back. If he isn't a sociopath (started posting 2 weeks ago) then it's just entertainment.

 

[vergil96]

Strange thread, one of my brothers has a undergraduate in psychology. told me years ago sociopaths do not care about others. If the OP is being up front they may not be a sociopath definitely not one of us. Troll?

This is beyond me what consitutes a personality disorder and what doesn't. Something doesn't need to be considered a disorder to be clearly detrimental.

If he is ASPD taunting him will be water off a ducks back. If he isn't a sociopath (started posting 2 weeks ago) then it's just entertainment.

Trolling is antisocial entertainment too

And either way - true, that given the descriptions, evoking strong responses might be deliberate and entertainment for the OP.

 

[Jonn]

Maybe you should try to torment someone that can fight back. Instead of small animals and children. Getting punched in the face can change people. You sound like a sadistic coward. Can you imagine what would happen if you found a big guy and tried to torment him. It could be good for you, maybe you learn something. Maybe you'll learn how it feels and that it's not fun.

As I said, consequences may change anti-social activity.

 

[Jonn]

What reaction do you want from us? Revulsion? Disgust? Fear and loathing? You need psychiatric help. For starters, look at WHY you do those cruel things and WHY you came here to tell everyone about it.

Objective analysis is my preferred response to anti-social exhibitionism.
The more damaged the individual, the more "interesting".
Emotions have no place in me when confronting defined situations such as this, for a couple of reasons.

 

[Jonn]

If he is ASPD taunting him will be water off a ducks back. If he isn't a sociopath (started posting 2 weeks ago) then it's just entertainment.

The individual has only himself to blame for some doubting his genuineness, IMO.
But "doubting" is not the same as condemning.

The best thing to do in situations like this, IMO, is to remain objective and analytical rather than emotional.
But I am repeating myself.

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I do enjoy the sound of my own voice after all, so ppl will have to deal with that.

 

[Jonn]

Strange thread, one of my brothers has a undergraduate in psychology. told me years ago sociopaths do not care about others. If the OP is being up front they may not be a sociopath definitely not one of us. Troll?

You can be upfront and still have ASPD.

Yes, a person can be both autistic and a sociopath, but the combination is uncommon, complex, and often misunderstood. Because this touches on mental‑health conditions, it’s important to keep in mind that only a qualified clinician can diagnose either condition, and anyone with concerns should speak with a professional.

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How autism and sociopathy differ​

Autism and sociopathy (more formally antisocial personality disorder, ASPD) come from very different origins and involve very different traits.

Autism (ASD)​

• A neurodevelopmental condition present from early childhood
• Characterised by differences in social communication, sensory processing, and routines
• Empathy differences are usually about cognitive empathy (difficulty reading social cues), not lack of caring
• Many autistic people have strong moral codes and deep concern for fairness

Sociopathy / ASPD​

• A personality disorder involving persistent disregard for others’ rights
• Marked by manipulation, deceit, aggression, and lack of remorse
• Empathy differences are usually about affective empathy (reduced emotional response to others’ suffering)
• Behavioural patterns must begin in childhood (conduct disorder)

These are not opposite conditions, but they are not similar either.

Can they co‑occur?​

Yes — but it is rare and often complicated to diagnose. Research shows that:

• Autism can co‑occur with personality disorders, including ASPD, in a minority of cases.
• Forensic studies show some individuals with ASD also meet criteria for ASPD, though this is not the norm.
• Overlap is often due to misinterpretation of autistic traits (e.g., bluntness, social difficulty) as antisocial behaviour, even when intent is not malicious.

One review found that autistic individuals in forensic settings sometimes have comorbid personality disorders, including ASPD, but this is not evidence that autism causes antisocial traits.

Why the combination is often misunderstood​

Some behaviours can look similar on the surface but come from very different causes:

• An autistic person may seem blunt because they struggle with social nuance.
• A sociopathic person may seem charming or blunt because they are manipulating or disregarding others.

Intent is the key difference:

• Autistic traits come from neurological differences, not malice.
• Sociopathic traits involve intentional violation of others’ rights.

This is why clinicians must be careful not to confuse the two.

From memory, the very first post screamed "Toll" to me, but I am not the sort of person who mindlessly jumps to conclusions.

BTW, trolls can very easily be sociopaths/psychopaths, IMO.

 

[Ronald Zeeman]

If he has a conscious get help, otherwise, we as a group can do nothing leave him alone. We are here to help each other. he is not one of us.

 

[JayCee]

Seen this in individuals before . After reading what you wrote. Not really willing to engage in being judgemental of you after what you,wrote , almost feels as if , am being baited for a certain type of response , possibly to help satisfy some urge ,you may or maynot have ?
But quite honesty all things considered if ,you think to try improvement for yourself of somekind . Would join the Marine Corp . If you are serious about change. Believe it may help you . Be the best you can be or die trying , And tickle your saviour issue at the same time. imho

 

[MC1Rcat]

Trolling is antisocial entertainment too

And either way - true, that given the descriptions, evoking strong responses might be deliberate and entertainment for the OP.

Agreed......I think this is attention seeking behavior of the OP. They said they like evoking strong emotional upset reactions in people. This thread has definitely obliged in that department.

 

[Hypnalis]

It makes little difference to the response whether OP is trolling or not, so why even discuss it?

The serious answers to OP all say the same thing:
* This is way outside AF's collective "pay grade"
* Get professional help as soon as possible.

A meta-discussions has clear downsides, and no upsides:
1. Telling an honest actor they're a troll is harmful, and may well induce a negative outcome
2. Telling a troll they're trolling in the hope that they'll stop is a fool's errand.

If I reversed the logic of the meta-discussion, my conclusion would be that it's intended to harm to OP.
There's even supporting evidence for it:
OP has been targeted by something that looks a lot like a small-scale "struggle session".

But why tho?

That kind of engagement is purely for the amusement of the "attackers", with motivations that are oddly reminiscent of the original post.