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Poor Singing

thejuice

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Quick rant... What happened to people who could actually sing? What's this off key, wobbly, untrained voice I'm hearing.. is it meant to have character and be charming?

The only person who gets a pass from me is Thom Yorke because the music and creativity is off the charts...

Boy I'm a misery guts, this is why i dont get invited to parties. (Thank goodness..)
 
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Singing and songwriting both took a dive in the 60s, in the US anyway, with the rising of the "singer-songwriter." Before this time, both careers were filled with professional musicians.
 
Quick rant... What happened to people who could actually sing? What's this off key, wobbly, untrained voice I'm hearing.. is it meant to have character and be charming?
Australia still has a lot of spectacular singers, but it does seem to be a dying art.



And here's Jimmy Barnes in his 60s, still with pretty much the same voice he had when he was in his 20s:

 
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I always get a good taste of "today's" music on the New Year's Eve shows.
Heck, I don't even know who they are.
Not to step on anybody's toes that like it, but it's not for me.
 
My wife and I like watching NBC's The Voice. You get to see really good singers turn into great singers. It's amazing to watch the growth in young singers, those late teen - early 20's with prodigy-like raw talent, and then have the coaches work with them. Literally week to week there is noticeable steps forward in their abilities.

But more on topic, I would agree there is less emphasis on actual singing in todays music. I know from watching The Voice that it is all in how the arrangements are done, because the same popular songs can be arranged to highlight the vocal abilities of the singer in very tasteful ways.
 
Bjork is another who gets a pass because she's exceptionally creative. Still refuse to listen to 'Its oh so quiet' though
 
I find it hard to believe that singing has deteriorated. There are many many great singers. They may not be in the genres you listen to. Singing publically via TV, You Tube, Spotify has multiplied the ammount of singers available to listen to and with that can be expected there are more less talented ones to hear.
 
I find it hard to believe that singing has deteriorated. There are many many great singers. They may not be in the genres you listen to. Singing publically via TV, You Tube, Spotify has multiplied the ammount of singers available to listen to and with that can be expected there are more less talented ones to hear.
I think the point is singing in popular music has deteriorated. Not the case for opera or jazz.

This deterioration has been going on long before the internet boom.
 
The "industry" might be deteriorating as the middle men are highly domineering and exploitative, lacking "soul", but in actual fact, skill levels of actual singers is rising. If you watch talent and singing competions on so- called "reality tv", especially early auditions, you see amazing, amazing, amazing singers, even very young one's (youtube demonstrates this).

The poppy stuff that's getting churned out by "the industry" is a reflection of those industry "late-stage capitalism" mentality folks. It is indicative of the fact that money men (and women) are not good at cultivating soulful, skillful musical artists, but, in reality, I think there are way more skilled singers on the planet than ever before. I'm one, but I've steered clear of "The Industry" and am, just now, finding a musical "scene" that works for me. I used to work, small scale, here in Australia, but, I had a large famiĺy and needed to grow them up before getting back to serious public music production. I'm more a musical shamanic person than a "music industry" person.

I'm a fan of indy not mainstream modern music though.
 

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