Is there anyway I can get a diagnosis overturned? I believe I was misdiagnosed

[Ylva]

Ive never felt any different to the majority of 'normal' kids

Wow. The neurotypical first line of gaslighting is usually "everyone feels like that sometimes", so thanks for coming clean.

If you want it off your record, can't you just call your doctor or psychiatrisy and ask them to take it off? This is a diagnosis one gets to get accomodations – the way the only reason to get any type of diagnosis is to qualify for the nevessary treatment or accomodations – and I can't imagine any government wanting to push that on you.

 

[Suzanne]

And here I am, desiring to be officialised! But I can see where you are coming from.

Have you considered going back to a therapist who specialises in aspergers and see if you can get it overturned?

As to looks. Since finding out about aspergers, obsession overtook and I went on the journey of finding out about as much as I could and one thing that was clear, is that those with aspergers actually do not look strange. Well, perhaps some guys do have a certain look about them, but us females tend to look like other females. Which is why it is rare for females to be diagnosed.

 

[Stack07945]

Welcome, @Stack07945. I hope you find some useful information here.

Here's a stupid question: What's the consequence of leaving the diagnosis in place? Usually, revealing the diagnosis is up to you. If you don't believe the diagnosis, then just drop it from your life and move on.

Are you in some environment where the diagnosis is passed from one authority to another outside of your control? Or are there people who you believe would treat you better if you got your diagnosis changed?

I'm not saying "don't get the diagnosis reversed" ... I just want to understand what you want to achieve by reversing it.

I knew people would take it the wrong way when I said that in the middle of my post. Also, the reason I need this overturned is because the military has full access to all medical records, same as if I were to become a professional athlete I would have to disclose all my medical records, Im sure theres a fair amount of other jobs aswell where this is required of me also, and it has already proven to be seriously damaging to perspective job opportunities for me.

 

[Stack07945]

It's hard not to get a little sarcastic reading his post.

There is a chance that he has a co-morbid narcissistic personality disorder which prevents him from recognizing his, deemed negative, autistic traits in himself. If that is the case, I likely shouldn't have been poking fun.

No I do not have a narcissistic personality disorder at all, I find it sad that you actually mistake someone having confidence in their looks and saying so with pride as 'narcissistic'. Yeah Im not one to constantly down myself and I do talk myself up, its like I said called 'confidence'. Also for your information I cant recognise any autistic traits in myself because I have none at all, the whole diagnosis was a complete load of bs. I was 4 years old for god sake, theres no way he couldve 100% accurately have diagnosed me.

 

[Nervous Rex]

I knew people would take it the wrong way when I said that in the middle of my post. Also, the reason I need this overturned is because the military has full access to all medical records, same as if I were to become a professional athlete I would have to disclose all my medical records, Im sure theres a fair amount of other jobs aswell where this is required of me also, and it has already proven to be seriously damaging to perspective job opportunities for me.

I hope I didn't take it the wrong way. I apologize if I did. I asked because I wanted to know. Your reasons sound valid and compelling.

In the U.S. at least, an autism diagnosis is basically written to convince other doctors that the diagnosis is correct. It's written to be convincing and compelling. I.e., "Believe me, I've looked at this guy and here's what I see." You will have to find a doctor willing to re-evaluate you from scratch. I might also recommend that you read through the DSM criteria for an autism diagnosis, so you can know exactly what the doctors should be looking for.

 

[Ylva]

Also for your information I cant recognise any autistic traits in myself because I have none at all

Another impressive statement! Most NTs insist that "we are all a little autistic", so this at least implies you are not NT.

 

[HidinginPlainSight]

No I do not have a narcissistic personality disorder at all, I find it sad that you actually mistake someone having confidence in their looks and saying so with pride as 'narcissistic'. Yeah Im not one to constantly down myself and I do talk myself up, its like I said called 'confidence'. Also for your information I cant recognise any autistic traits in myself because I have none at all, the whole diagnosis was a complete load of bs. I was 4 years old for god sake, theres no way he couldve 100% accurately have diagnosed me.

I hope you didn't shed too many tears on this account. Autistic people have a tendency to say inappropriate things without realizing or understanding how other people would internalize them.

Apologizing and then calling a bunch of autistic people ugly is not called confidence. It's called an unbelievable lack of situational awareness. The fact that you can still only conceptualize this from your own point of view does not lend itself to the notion of, "none at all." In this, you come off as an extreme case.

Your plans to be a professional athlete do not seem well formed. This is the point where you seem narcissistic. If they were, a trainer, a coach, a recruiter or anyone else who deals with elite athletes would have told you that being autistic has absolutely no bearing on the outcome of this career path.

It sounds more like you are unable to accept any failure whatsoever and are willing to blame a diagnosis which is really quite trivial in terms of perusing goals.

 

[Mary Lyn]

Give the guy some slack - he is only 18.

 

[Mary Anne]

I don’t think the original poster looked at the supplied links showing professional athletes who have autism. I wish they would do the research FIRST before posting such inaccuracies. Many successful people have a dx of autism, but they are choosing to look only at the negatives. It should be fairly easy to get the dx removed from their record, especially in 2021 when the diagnosis (dx) criteria has become so much more stringent.

 

[Stack07945]

I hope you didn't shed too many tears on this account. Autistic people have a tendency to say inappropriate things without realizing or understanding how other people would internalize them.

Apologizing and then calling a bunch of autistic people ugly is not called confidence. It's called an unbelievable lack of situational awareness. The fact that you can still only conceptualize this from your own point of view does not lend itself to the notion of, "none at all." In this, you come off as an extreme case.

Your plans to be a professional athlete do not seem well formed. This is the point where you seem narcissistic. If they were, a trainer, a coach, a recruiter or anyone else who deals with elite athletes would have told you that being autistic has absolutely no bearing on the outcome of this career path.

It sounds more like you are unable to accept any failure whatsoever and are willing to blame a diagnosis which is really quite trivial in terms of perusing goals.

I dont usually go off on people but your just an idiot and highly misinformed. Where did I call autistic people ugly? I simply said alot of them have a different sort of look, which is true, there are of course likely many exceptions. Also its quite obvious you have low self esteem as you seem to mistake my confidence for 'narcissism' and get even more butthurt when I call you out on it, what is it about someone else being confident that bothers you so much? Are you jealous you dont have the same amount of confidence in yourself that I do? And for your information I have done my research, in the sport I specialize in and aspire to become a professional in, there is literally not a single professional player in the world with autism or aspergers. You say that like I havent done my research already, you are once again misinformed. 'An extreme case' you have to be joking mate your the only extreme case here, your lack of understanding of my situation and complete incapacity to relate to anything I have said correctly just shows how autistic you really are if anything, any normal person and probably most people who have any intellectual ability at all autistic or not would be able to understand why this diagnosis I got, once again when I was 4 years old and not even old enough to tell anything accurately yet is highly detrimental to many aspects of my life. Do you really think a normal person wants to be labelled as having aspergers when they are 100% sure they dont have it? Are you aware that the unemployment rate for those with this disorder is far higher than those without it? Im not using this as an excuse to justify any type of failure in my life like you are implying. In the army physical exam I was more fit than the majority of subjects applying and passed the fitness test with higher results than 95% of the general population. On top of this I easily aced the intelligence test, to be told afterwards that they arent accepting me because of me having 'aspergers' (something that I once again do not have). How is that failure? Thats simply bias against people with aspergers and to be grouped in with a bunch of people who actually have proper aspergers is quite frankly, highly demotivating and offensive considering I am a completely mentally and physically normal person. Its quite sad that you have to try and bring people down who are more confident in their abilities than you simply because your insecure about yourself. I can see right through you and read you like a book, something people with proper aspergers would struggle with (yet even more evidence I dont have it) its no secret people who actually have aspergers/autism struggle to read and gauge thought on others feelings, which is something I never have trouble with regardless of the person. You may think your funny with your 'smart' comments and sarcasm but your nothing but a keyboard warrior, all your replies fail to relate correctly in alot of ways to anything I was hoping to get out of making this thread, you simply went straight to attacking me with your indirect sarcastic remarks. Everything about you reeks of insecurity.

 

[Stack07945]

I don’t think the original poster looked at the supplied links showing professional athletes who have autism. I wish they would do the research FIRST before posting such inaccuracies. Many successful people have a dx of autism, but they are choosing to look only at the negatives. It should be fairly easy to get the dx removed from their record, especially in 2021 when the diagnosis (dx) criteria has become so much more stringent.

Actually, I have done my research. I am aware that there are professional atheletes on the spectrum in several different sports. But from the research I have done, the sport I am highly interested in and excel at there is not a single professional in the world who has aspergers.

 

[Mary Lyn]

@Stack07945

I don't think this is the right forum for you with your question. I am sure that there will be forums for advice for general misdiagnoses. I would advise you to search for one.

 

[HidinginPlainSight]

your indirect sarcastic remarks.

I take issue with this, I thought they were quite direct.

For future reference. If you're going to call someone and idiot, try not to misspell "You are".

 

[Nitro]

 

[Stack07945]

I take issue with this, I thought they were quite direct.

For future reference. If you're going to call someone and idiot, try not to misspell "You are".

Tells me to correct my spelling mistake, spells 'an' wrong.

 

[Jenn987]

Give the guy some slack - he is only 18.

I have to agree with this. A little slack is warranted

Definitely bring it up with your doctors or someone you can trust who can help. If you really want to be retested that’s fine. Or you may find more ways to live with the diagnosis than you can see now. Good luck

 

[Mary Anne]

Actually, I have done my research. I am aware that there are professional atheletes on the spectrum in several different sports. But from the research I have done, the sport I am highly interested in and excel at there is not a single professional in the world who has aspergers.

Well, why not be the first then? Why hold yourself back with all this negative thinking? You can be THE trailblazer - embrace that YOU would have no competition, and thus, truly make a professional name for yourself. Start thinking like a winner, and not as a disabled person.

 

[Judge]

One other thing that I can't help but wonder about is the slow and intransigent nature of a Pentagon bureaucracy. Even if the OP is able to secure a complete reversal of his previous diagnosis, will that be sufficient for the military to review and reconsider entrance into the armed forces?

The term "red tape" is a very old one. But its origins are very common to the subject of this thread.

 

[Pats]

I dont usually go off on people but your just an idiot and highly misinformed. Where did I call autistic people ugly? I simply said alot of them have a different sort of look, which is true, there are of course likely many exceptions. Also its quite obvious you have low self esteem as you seem to mistake my confidence for 'narcissism' and get even more butthurt when I call you out on it, what is it about someone else being confident that bothers you so much? Are you jealous you dont have the same amount of confidence in yourself that I do? And for your information I have done my research, in the sport I specialize in and aspire to become a professional in, there is literally not a single professional player in the world with autism or aspergers. You say that like I havent done my research already, you are once again misinformed. 'An extreme case' you have to be joking mate your the only extreme case here, your lack of understanding of my situation and complete incapacity to relate to anything I have said correctly just shows how autistic you really are if anything, any normal person and probably most people who have any intellectual ability at all autistic or not would be able to understand why this diagnosis I got, once again when I was 4 years old and not even old enough to tell anything accurately yet is highly detrimental to many aspects of my life. Do you really think a normal person wants to be labelled as having aspergers when they are 100% sure they dont have it? Are you aware that the unemployment rate for those with this disorder is far higher than those without it? Im not using this as an excuse to justify any type of failure in my life like you are implying. In the army physical exam I was more fit than the majority of subjects applying and passed the fitness test with higher results than 95% of the general population. On top of this I easily aced the intelligence test, to be told afterwards that they arent accepting me because of me having 'aspergers' (something that I once again do not have). How is that failure? Thats simply bias against people with aspergers and to be grouped in with a bunch of people who actually have proper aspergers is quite frankly, highly demotivating and offensive considering I am a completely mentally and physically normal person. Its quite sad that you have to try and bring people down who are more confident in their abilities than you simply because your insecure about yourself. I can see right through you and read you like a book, something people with proper aspergers would struggle with (yet even more evidence I dont have it) its no secret people who actually have aspergers/autism struggle to read and gauge thought on others feelings, which is something I never have trouble with regardless of the person. You may think your funny with your 'smart' comments and sarcasm but your nothing but a keyboard warrior, all your replies fail to relate correctly in alot of ways to anything I was hoping to get out of making this thread, you simply went straight to attacking me with your indirect sarcastic remarks. Everything about you reeks of insecurity.

I also took offense to what you said and my first reaction was wondering why you would go to a forum which is for a group of people on the spectrum to feel a little less alone and try to make us feel "Not normal".

This is supposed to be a safe place and you get on here and say we don't look normal and you sound devastated that you were ever labeled as one of us. And then you go on and on about how great you are and saying that the only thing stopping you from becoming Mr World's Best Everything is being labeled as one of us. Yes, that does sound narcissist and it is very insulting to everyone on this forum.

I realize you are only 18 and still have a lot of growing up to do, but I think one of the first things you need to learn in this life is to not put other groups of people down. You need to come down a few notches. I'm not saying this in an attacking way, just trying to help you understand how you are coming off and that's not the way to treat people.

I used to always say that I would never want to make any person feel the way I have been made to feel in the past and I hope you keep that in the back of your mind. Remembering that will get you further than your great looks (which don't last forever) and your great abilities (which also don't last forever).

I hope you read this as constructive criticism and take heed.

I do wish you luck in your attempts. Go to a professional and seek help for your future.

 

[Judge]

When medical professionals are evaluating people under such circumstances, consider it a holistic examination process. That whatever comes out of your mouth may be every bit as relevant as to what your body tells them, apart from medical records provided by third-parties.

It would be unfortunate if one's attitude and choice of words contributed to the assessment of a medical professional with the rank of Captain or higher. Where sometimes there's a fine line between being cocky and disrespectful. It also doesn't help that narcissism is sometimes mistaken in cases involving considerations of autism. It would be sad if it was his attitude that really sank him as opposed to only a subjective analysis of his medical records.

Of course we don't know what actually went down. Only that based on the original post that there are a number of things to consider into why the OP was turned down for military service.