Gay Aspies and Dating

[Coxhere]

I've read and heard that there is a higher percentage of Sexual Diversity Aspies than there is in the population as a whole. (I'm a Gay man, have characteristics of ASD1s but am undiagnosed by any mental health professionals.) However, I wonder if any other Gay Aspies get into any kind of difficulties in finding dates. I am particularly thinking about how difficult it is for Aspies, in general, to understand social and cultural correctnesses, body affect, and facial cues.

 

[Kayla55]

There have been many experiments performed on rats. From hairless rat-rat notes on mother's and lactation, to breeding these imuno rats for medicine and disease testing. It was noted that with introduction of chimicals that disrupted endocrine system that some of male rats had become gay.
Many did not like findings, which is their opinion. I think it's a fact and banning gay people in Hungry (there are many inconveniences in life such as loosing precious son on war border, tragic. However being silent dutiful daughter becomes exasperated with continual labola efforts. Really just people growing unhappy with Hungry not providing better way forward for future) is way of setting standard until it's one of yours that is having difficulties in life, who are we to judge?
I fully understand how some may be upset their son is gay and chooses this route, is it less upsetting than half things our daughters may suffer, um. Ye, I've acknowledged the depth to which society favours men in that offering protective benefits to our daughters is not on scale with protect our sons.

Mainstream does not wish to condone gay, does not view perhaps ADHD as criteria towards criminal weakness. The people who release such chemicals are not responsible for mess, only education facilities are for high-functioning who may benefit increase of innovation on current timeline, high agenda, do not disturb!!!
I myself am a casualty, the parts of system wish to shut out, conform ND don't complain. (Of course it's not that bad until you land up in unemployment/disability section) in this world, without money, you are a nothing.

Missed your intro, welcome to forum.

 

[Kayla55]

Other forms are very slow, this one is busier and more active. Many have audhd. My question as a parent is after doing everything possible with my son, what pardon can the system offer, can professional even help. G-d forbid he's ever in trouble with the law.

I'm not making trouble, but I've heard parents increasing meds to 3x a day due to behaviour such as we were evicted from our home as my son threw stones on neighbours car. This is after all stress to get my other son with asd verbal, and if he was to go out more often would be have more meltdowns?

While a direct causal link between ADHD and kleptomania hasn't been definitively proven, research suggests a potential connection and that ADHD treatments can sometimes improve kleptomania symptoms. Some studies indicate that a significant percentage of individuals with kleptomania also meet the criteria for ADHD. Furthermore, case reports show that treating ADHD with medications like methylphenidate (MPH) can lead to a reduction in stealing behavior.

Explanation:

• Impulsivity and ADHD:
  ADHD is characterized by impulsivity, which may contribute to the onset of kleptomania, an impulse control disorder.

When i get money I'm thinking of having my son's blood type tested. After leaving the thread I'm aware he was born with jaundice which indicates I must have attacked his foreign immune system. ADHD requires new model of parenting as if I don't have enough on my plate. A while back I decided to reset my values and just allow him a phone to hopefully get it out his system, no I don't understand kids with devices. But have tablet with broken screen from homeschooling which I'll fix and give to him, so please that he won't take what is not his.
I do love him, but heck I can't understand this child, anymore.

 

[VictorR]

I've read and heard that there is a higher percentage of Sexual Diversity Aspies than there is in the population as a whole. (I'm a Gay man, have characteristics of ASD1s but am undiagnosed by any mental health professionals.) However, I wonder if any other Gay Aspies get into any kind of difficulties in finding dates. I am particularly thinking about how difficult it is for Aspies, in general, to understand social and cultural correctnesses, body affect, and facial cues.

Yes, folks on the spectrum are more likely to be gender and/or sexual minorities.

I can't comment on dating, but one challenge reported by many LGBT folks on the spectrum is that gay culture and events often have a heavy emphasis on bars and parties, which may not necessarily be accessible to those with sensory concerns (e.g. loud music, crowded spaces, lighting). Additionally, such events also tend to be targeted to a more extroverted audience, and autistic folks tend to be more likely to be introverted.

 

[Coxhere]

Yes, folks on the spectrum are more likely to be gender and/or sexual minorities.

I can't comment on dating, but one challenge reported by many LGBT folks on the spectrum is that gay culture and events often have a heavy emphasis on bars and parties, which may not necessarily be accessible to those with sensory concerns (e.g. loud music, crowded spaces, lighting). Additionally, such events also tend to be targeted to a more extroverted audience, and autistic folks tend to be more likely to be introverted.

Thank you for your response. It is certainly true, VictorR, that I've avoided bars and haven't ever been much of a party invitee. I get disturbed by the superficial, tightly grouped crowds, the annoying, loud music, and the confusing, unimportant conversations. I am (supposedly according to Myers-Briggs's "testing") an INFP. I can sometimes score as an ENTP when in a different mental/emotional place.

 

[Kayla55]

Yes, folks on the spectrum are more likely to be gender and/or sexual minorities.

I can't comment on dating, but one challenge reported by many LGBT folks on the spectrum is that gay culture and events often have a heavy emphasis on bars and parties, which may not necessarily be accessible to those with sensory concerns (e.g. loud music, crowded spaces, lighting). Additionally, such events also tend to be targeted to a more extroverted audience, and autistic folks tend to be more likely to be introverted.

Sensory is very broad term used to help nt understand. I noted one more detailed aspect is superficial, some gays openly judge based on money.
While many club type going people are promiscuous it doesn't account for all gay people, of which many are in serious relationships.

I'm not sure in therapy practice which people inclined to break cycle of abuse most readily, but I've met gay men who reported underage boys, so we can't judge gay people against being parent. There so many straight paediofiles that this idea needs to get thrown out as outdated judgement against gay people.
So many neglected children who appreciate attention, and not like Diddy's visits to afghan orphanages.
It's interesting that Africa is against so called anthropologists who seek to hoard wealth, more than providing for common good but then more than USA should get pointed out, based on history I think no one should be left with stones to throw. I think much of this falls under the term hypocrisy, and is widely a NT interpretation of their way of interacting and asserting not their beliefs but rather perception if past injustice. So let's argue universal law grants justice for such and such period of time before a breakthrough surfaces that sets to seperate truth from opinion. Be interesting if those influenced by accentric tendencies had grey areas, well big red line drawn through grey areas of modern history books that doesn't just remove French patents but sets record straight. This influence Japan to also answer questions as to whether they or Chinese invented Asian technologies and cast a service charge on even using concept of patents due to supporting nations who allowed this patent argument to surface, which involved heavy arguments over language development from flemisch and not just refering to figarative narrative. What earth am I talking about: what did Japan sell after the war to get confiscated swords back and how much cancer research was silently ommited by them (Germany never really worked for patents, only leveraged success of others long awaited efforts)
Really curious as I'm accused of not doing my own housework (ha) is this nt projection again, or why do some of us do some own dirty work. If equation is balanced with theory therefore I'm entitled to her panties it's not objective and required intervention of the eyes of truth to always be watching. And I think I made this clear, my name's not jo-anne to Eddy Grant. My name is not anna as in Alice of wonderland, who knows why she can't find her way home.
It's about same as faking it, calling out another's name. Sorry dude, that's when even men cross line on what's offensive and I'm expected to act like nothing is wrong.

 

[Coxhere]

Sensory is very broad term used to help nt understand. I noted one more detailed aspect is superficial, some gays openly judge based on money.
While many club type going people are promiscuous it doesn't account for all gay people, of which many are in serious relationships.

I'm not sure in therapy practice which people inclined to break cycle of abuse most readily, but I've met gay men who reported underage boys, so we can't judge gay people against being parent. There so many straight paediofiles that this idea needs to get thrown out as outdated judgement against gay people.
So many neglected children who appreciate attention, and not like Diddy's visits to afghan orphanages.
It's interesting that Africa is against so called anthropologists who seek to hoard wealth, more than providing for common good but then more than USA should get pointed out, based on history I think no one should be left with stones to throw.

I know Gay couples who adopted thrown-away, abandoned babies who were HIV+. Their motivations were to care for, support, and love these babies because no one else would.

 

[paloftoon]

I fit the lgbt aspie stereotype, I am also non-White and non-religious, but I do not struggle with crowds or noise. I do not care for crowds, and I quietly like the bumping and grinding of hot looking men on me if they aren't trying to hurt me, lol.

I definitely struggle with the race issues, physicality (i'm somewhat chubby), changing self-confidence. All these make it more struggle for me than a typical gay man for getting a date or even a friend.

 

[Kayla55]

Interesting that I note intellectual differences in neurodiversity but I've never attpted to deprive others of fair chance at education, or sabotaged another's efforts. My belief is that all have right, but somehow it's certain types who stand on others rights.

I'm not sure why robots aren't genderless, it's beyond me. Men dating robots doesn't bother me provided I'm free to live my own life, really don't care, but honestly it's degrading to women. But
I'll really upgrade myself as a cyborg, thank you. I'll create and be my own version, will not tolerate men doing this, at point where honestly think I'm gay. I may also be most liberal to speak against sexism and robots and undermine Inc my intelligence, perhaps I'm more lesbian than thought, maybe more that than a-sexual. Must be dire hard on feminism as I'm not a man's invention or toy.

 

[Coxhere]

I fit the lgbt aspie stereotype, I am also non-White and non-religious, but I do not struggle with crowds or noise. I do not care for crowds, and I quietly like the bumping and grinding of hot looking men on me if they aren't trying to hurt me, lol.

I definitely struggle with the race issues, physicality (i'm somewhat chubby), changing self-confidence. All these make it more struggle for me than a typical gay man for getting a date or even a friend.

I am a Gay man but I don't know what a glbtqc+ stereotype looks like. I remember when I was in a hospital that had a special unit for glbtqc+ patients. One of the group sessions dealt with transgenders and their special issues. A couple of the members of that group said that they vacillate between wanting to be male and wanting to be female. I didn't know that this could be a part of what it meant to be transgender. I remember one young woman in our group saying, "I'm glad that I'm just a plain, ole lesbian!"

 

[Coxhere]

There have been many experiments performed on rats. From hairless rat-rat notes on mother's and lactation, to breeding these imuno rats for medicine and disease testing. It was noted that with introduction of chimicals that disrupted endocrine system that some of male rats had become gay.
Many did not like findings, which is their opinion. I think it's a fact and banning gay people in Hungry (there are many inconveniences in life such as loosing precious son on war border, tragic. However being silent dutiful daughter becomes exasperated with continual labola efforts. Really just people growing unhappy with Hungry not providing better way forward for future) is way of setting standard until it's one of yours that is having difficulties in life, who are we to judge?
I fully understand how some may be upset their son is gay and chooses this route, is it less upsetting than half things our daughters may suffer, um. Ye, I've acknowledged the depth to which society favours men in that offering protective benefits to our daughters is not on scale with protect our sons.

Mainstream does not wish to condone gay, does not view perhaps ADHD as criteria towards criminal weakness. The people who release such chemicals are not responsible for mess, only education facilities are for high-functioning who may benefit increase of innovation on current timeline, high agenda, do not disturb!!!
I myself am a casualty, the parts of system wish to shut out, conform ND don't complain. (Of course it's not that bad until you land up in unemployment/disability section) in this world, without money, you are a nothing.

Missed your intro, welcome to forum.

Thank you, Kayla55, for your welcome. Being welcomed is such a wonderful thing. I've not very often been welcomed to anything.

 

[Captain Jigglypuff]

I have trouble getting even a single date. I was talking to this one guy and haven’t heard a word from him in over a month but I don’t think he ghosted me because he didn’t block me on the dating app like all the others. I’m just a bit concerned that something happened to him and I just want to make sure he’s okay. Usually when a guy stops talking to me after two weeks, he ignores my messages and blocks me. On the dating app, there was this one creep who kept trying to get me to agree to meet him in public bathrooms for a quickie and I’d keep telling him no and he would still message me. Well I finally got back at him by asking if we could eat all the pizza and dumpster sludge from the pizza shop across the street from the bathroom afterwards and that I hadn’t bathed in two months which confused him (and hopefully disgusted him) and then I blocked him. I told my friend about what I said to this creep and he said that I was pretty savage.

 

[Coxhere]

I have trouble getting even a single date. I was talking to this one guy and haven’t heard a word from him in over a month but I don’t think he ghosted me because he didn’t block me on the dating app like all the others. I’m just a bit concerned that something happened to him and I just want to make sure he’s okay. Usually when a guy stops talking to me after two weeks, he ignores my messages and blocks me. On the dating app, there was this one creep who kept trying to get me to agree to meet him in public bathrooms for a quickie and I’d keep telling him no and he would still message me. Well I finally got back at him by asking if we could eat all the pizza and dumpster sludge from the pizza shop across the street from the bathroom afterwards and that I hadn’t bathed in two months which confused him (and hopefully disgusted him) and then I blocked him. I told my friend about what I said to this creep and he said that I was pretty savage.

Not knowing what's happened to a guy is difficult. It's why I have written instructions for my estate to contact a string of friends and relatives once I have died. (I'm 80 years old.) I don't want people wondering why I've stopped corresponding with them.