Do you want to be immortal?

[Ronald Zeeman]

As a man of science, you might enjoy reading a book authored by another man of science, Dr. Eben Alexander M.D..

A personal account of a well-respected neurosurgeon who suffered a rare illness which resulted in a near-death experience. In essence, "a scientist's case for the afterlife". And the inevitable struggle with his professional peers.

A book titled "Proof Of Heaven".

I already had a personal experience. Either I Have a pretty good imagination or a really good ability to make connections when I sleep all I remember when I Woke up from the out of body experience was the answer you seek is information. during the experience I questioned why I am Not freezing and falling short of breath. I thought the bright light in the distance was the sun also sort of wondered how to get back as you cannot swim in a vacuum.

 

[phantom]

In the end whether you believe in some form of immortality existing, it's not going to change your faith.

 

[Ronald Zeeman]

I'm agnostic. no faith just science weirdest part was being told in a dream I some sort of messenger. Really confused me, Covid or physics?

 

[Judge]

I'm agnostic. no faith just science weirdest part was being told in a dream I some sort of messenger. Really confused me, Covid or physics?

Point taken.

Dreams can be extremely tricky- and confusing in terms of whether they simply subconsciously reflect our psyche or something more profound, such as a "visitation" from the "other side".

 

[Ronald Zeeman]

I guess Steven Hawking now knows the truth. This really bothered him.

If you really want to know how information works read Claude Shannon's contribution this really opened my eyes after I had the stroke, I left the hospital and bought the from the great courses on information theory, and then had real warm and fuzzy feelings. everything made sense. cannot do the math the pro in physics do but just keep seeing things while I am dreaming. See my physics thread.

 

[Ronald Zeeman]

Point taken.

Dreams can be extremely tricky- and confusing in terms of whether they simply subconsciously reflect our psyche or something more profound, such as a "visitation" from the "other side".

That's the way I Think even during the experience I questioned what was happening. Right now I am just waiting to pass each inflection The stroke happened 4 days after my birthday, an inflection point.

 

[Luca]

When most people have trouble with fish it's because it passed through them much too quickly.

This is one of the best comments I’ve ever read. Lol

Your sense of humor is much appreciated here

 

[Gerontius]

The score is even-- 9 votes for immortality, 9 votes for eventual demise. That's interesting.

 

[Prometheus]

even black holes cannot destroy information.

You mean protons and electrons and atomic matter?
I don't know how a sentient being, composed of matter could survive a black hole. Through the black hole does radiate material at the poles, I think. The point is, if you are immortal, you're an advanced stage civilization, probably a galactic species, and maybe cybernetic or some other form of body, that hosts the sentience. To be Non-physical yet sentient, well, then you're a ghost.

 

[autism-and-autotune]

Somehow I want to both die and life forever simultaneously.

My dream of the afterlife is that we get to wander the universe as entities and observe all possibilities, and the future, and the past.

 

[autism-and-autotune]

I'm already mortal. Death is a part of the human experience, and I would feel cheated if I missed out on that. Every man and every woman to have lived has also died. It's not so bad really if you think about it--pain, yes, but there are more important things than pain. Death is fine. And I don't think it's the end either.

'End? No, the journey does not end here.'

 

[autism-and-autotune]

If you had the choice would you want to have some form immortality?

I don't believe that when we die, it's the 'end.' I think death means 'bodily demise' but our consciousnesses live on. We experience at once all we put onto others--whether good or ill. In the end we judge ourselves, and there is no purgatory, nor reward--save the freedom of physical existence. We can wander the universe and witness all of time and history and other possibilities.

But no, I wouldn't want to live on earth forever; existence already is toilsome.

 

[phantom]

I guess Steven Hawking now knows the truth. This really bothered him.

The possibility that all information can be destroyed and present-ism, that time is not an axis gives us a grim fate. Nobody wants to have not been.

 

[Prometheus]

I so badly want to be an immortal Invisible space ghost.

How many chicks want be invisible space ghosts too.

 

[Moogwizard]

I'm agnostic. no faith just science weirdest part was being told in a dream I some sort of messenger. Really confused me, Covid or physics?

A message from the quantum particles

 

[Moogwizard]

@Prometheus

If I was the immortal space coast, I would travel coast to coast

 

[Outdated]

....weirdest part was being told in a dream I some sort of Messenger. Really confused me, Covid or physics?

A message from the quantum particles

Or a faulty attempt at subliminal advertising by Microsoft?

 

[Moogwizard]

Or a faulty attempt at subliminal advertising by Microsoft?

Good point because we know Apple would not have the capabilities to tap our dreams

 

[Ronald Zeeman]

You mean protons and electrons and atomic matter?
I don't know how a sentient being, composed of matter could survive a black hole. Through the black hole does radiate material at the poles, I think. The point is, if you are immortal, you're an advanced stage civilization, probably a galactic species, and maybe cybernetic or some other form of body, that hosts the sentience. To be Non-physical yet sentient, well, then you're a ghost.

check out the holographic principle the inside of the black hole is con currently the outside. For this to work takes four spatial dimensions. See Kaluza Klein or even better Klein bottle.

 

[Prometheus]

I wish Duckassist wasnt such a lame duck. That's something Chatgpt would be good at explaining. My prompt would be, "explain 4d holographic black hole quantum dynamics, like i'm a 5 year old"