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A Cure...?

Discussion in 'Autism Science Discussions' started by Crossbreed, Jan 25, 2019.

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  1. Autism is always bad and should be cured/prevented, whenever possible.

  2. ASD is ND. Seeking prevention/cure of grievous co-morbid conditions should be allowed.

  3. ASD is ND. All co-morbid conditions should be so embraced no matter how debilitating they are.

  4. Other (explain in post)

  5. I do not wish to say.

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  1. AuBurney Tuckerson

    AuBurney Tuckerson GigglesTheAutisticHyena

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    I was diagnosed with depression. Even talking to a therapist didn't help, and medications only caused suicidal thoughts. Now I started to feel less depressive when I got diagnosed with autism because I learned that there was nothing actually wrong with me being me.
     
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  2. anacrusis

    anacrusis New Member

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    Because it is a spectrum, I think it's difficult to answer the question for everybody on it. Do I wish to see some way of prevention, for the most severely affected folks, whose everyday living is made almost unbearable by it - yes of course. But many of the "treatments" people have tried to set up focus only on making autistic people adapt to neurotypical stereotypes, so that you have stories of "recovery" when in fact the autism isn't cured at all, it's still there, underneath a layer of learned behaviours in order to fit in. The result is burnout and the same sort of mental illness - anxiety, depression - as we get from being rejected by the society we live in. The thing is, there are advantages to autism too - we're the ones who recognise patterns, who are meticulous and see the details when we're problem-solving. We're more likely to be logical too. The fact that we have to learn how to interact means that we will put more thought and effort into thinking about other people and are less likely to be judgemental and more likely to accept others who seem to be a bit odd or different. Our society needs a mixture of abilities and talents - you need a good craftsman or woman to make something well, you need logical skill to write computer software, you need people who are good at networking to help social events run well. If all of us were neurotypical, society would be missing out, just as if we were all aspie, society would miss out.
    So yes - depends what aspect of autism you want to "cure" - I wouldn't want to lose the positives, and I don't want a cure for Me - I would like proper support and care for those who are suffering from their version of it, and prevention of the co-morbidities which are so damaging. And I'd like better awareness in the neurotypical world of the difficulties we encounter, of the positives we can bring to it, and more acceptance of those of us who'd like to stay just the way we are :) .
     
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  3. Crossbreed

    Crossbreed Neur-D Missionary ☝

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    The point of this thread isn't to "cure" autism, but to minimize co-morbid conditions, if at all possible.

    I believe that the majority of ASD2s & 3s are just ASD1s w/TBIs. And that TBI is preventable. The specifics are just not a topic that is allowed in the open forum. (PM me, if you are interested in more.) I am happy to be an Aspie ASD1. I do not advocate any such genocide.
     
  4. anacrusis

    anacrusis New Member

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    understood :) It's just that the first premise on the poll talks about curing all autism. I wasn't assuming genocide was being suggested (it's a bit of an extreme way to cure anything!) and don't know the acronym TBI: have a feeling that some of the anxiety and depression which often accompanies autism is due to lack of acceptance and understanding in a neurotypical world - and not just by neurotypicals either. We look around and see we don't fit, and feel there is something wrong with us because of it, and beat ourselves up over it. Since NT folks also get anxiety and depression though, it can't be the whole reason - for the sake of all of humanity it'd be good to have effective ways to manage these conditions :).
     
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    Crossbreed Neur-D Missionary ☝

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  6. StopDiagnosingPeople

    StopDiagnosingPeople Active Member

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    I believe autism should be cured at all costs. The problem with current research is that it does not consider that cusring autism might be possible with a lot of collateral damage. I hate myself because of autism and I believe I am a monster.

    I want to eliminate the autistic factors at all costs. So does that mean destroying much of my brain? IMHO, worth it. Autism is such pure inhumanity. I believe we must eliminate autism at all costs. At all costs. AT. ALL. COSTS.

    And if we take this mentality, we can.
     
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  7. StopDiagnosingPeople

    StopDiagnosingPeople Active Member

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    TBI can also eliminate the symptoms of autism. IMHO, if you inflict enough damage on the brain, it will no longer meet reasonable qualifications for autistic. I believe it's worth it.
     
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  8. Autistamatic

    Autistamatic He's just this guy, you know? V.I.P Member

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    I'm sorry you feel that way and hope you can find peace with yourself. Autism doesn't make you hateful, or a monster, unless you believe that most of the members of this warm, generous, community are monsters too?
     
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  9. Crossbreed

    Crossbreed Neur-D Missionary ☝

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    How did you arrive at your screen name, if you take that position...? [​IMG]
     
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  10. Joshua Aaron

    Joshua Aaron Just a Professional Weirdo w/Autism and ADHD

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    Scientists have never considered collateral damage to the brain because of the following reasons: That'd also potentially kill a person or just make them not function properly. You are aware of that, right? Somebody could even miss and just accidentally disable that person's legs or arms, instead.

    I consider myself to be a friendly, caring person. I'm proud of who I am as an Autistic person. Also, I want to stop this cure crap as soon as possible. I really only want negative co-existing conditions to be cured (such as depression, etc.) because those are things that one should not be proud of.
    I don't think that amount of pain and injury is worth it. That's also kinda child abuse when you stop and think that parents might force this on their kids.
     
  11. Crossbreed

    Crossbreed Neur-D Missionary ☝

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