Working and Minorities and ASD and "bad men"

[lunarious]

The Prophet Muhammad (PBUH) said: Whoever says, "I am the best of people," is among the worst of people, and whoever says, "I am in Paradise," is in Hell.

Mustafa: Hell is inevitable, whether inside the heart or outside the body.

e.g. If i'm gay and happy and "amongst" gay people then i'm not working.


And if we look at me, i'm idle among Norwegian Forceful Medical treatment.

I was looking at The Word (work) in english, and I saw that working can mean 1) Functioning like a globe is working or 2) Labour. In Iraq Arabic too. Norway Forced me to sit down litterally. I wand to Punish them, bad Jews and bad Muslims and bad Christians.

45:27 To Allah belongs the kingdom of the heavens and the earth, and when the Hour sets in, the falsifiers will be losers on that day.
45:28 And you will see every nation fallen on its knees. Every nation will be summoned to its book: ‘Today you will be requited for what you used to
45:29 This is Our book, which speaks truly against you. Indeed We used to record what you used to do.’

We Humans are supposed to work, because that's when we find meaning in our existence. Like a sled dog thrives in pulling the sled. We are of course not Dogs, and do not socialize with Dogs instead of Humans. Humans Pray, as Labour to achieve Allah's happiness and access to Paradise. But ___________ wanted to mess with Allah as we see today.

We have free will, with consequences. Allah says in Qur'an 42:29
Whoever desires the tillage of the Hereafter, We will enhance for him his tillage, and whoever desires the tillage of the world, We will give it to him, but he will have no share in the Hereafter.

Allah gives to him whom asks, and him whom doesn't ask

 

[lunarious]

are some people Forced to be Gay and Workless? Like i'm Forced to sit down in Force. Like other people are not Forced to live consecrated?

 

[Dagan]

I'm not one to intentionally preach or such, so don't think that's what this is - these are just questions and statements - some of them undeniable, though:

If you are ever confused or scared or worried or angry or want to punish or want to judge others or constantly can't find clear answers........and it almost all stems from a religious text and/or belief system.........have you considered that it could be the primary culprit of all issues?

If you struggle so hard to understand what is supposed to be a perfect text for and by a perfect god, and you so often feel mislead or mistaken or just simply can't make sense of your position / conditions in life by following any of it.....does that not register as problematic?

Also, in all of these texts, there's a specific other who's supposed to be the only one that misleads....a trickster....an evil one. That's who is supposed to only cause confusion and cause us to make poor or bad choices. That's who is supposed to only want anger and conflict, even violence. Does it not strike you that any text or belief system supposedly only meant for good, kindness and such shouldn't have any issues being followed or making you ONLY think, feel and do good and kind things, then? Why would it ever make you think, feel or act upon things that the evil one is supposed to only inspire? What sense does that make and to what / who's purpose? Who are you only following the teachings and ways of?

A Perfect God is a paradox to me (and I contend that it should be to anyone else, but that's allowed for individuals to decide, of course). "Perfection" does not need, it does not want, it does not / can not be confused.......it literally means that it requires nothing....not from you, not to you nor anything you could ever imagine in any way, shape or form. It is complete. If perfect, you should perfectly understand it, and you should have no questions of it, about it, nor in regard for yourself or anyone else, ever. It has nothing to do with whether or not we are perfect. Any perfect being that wants us to fully know, love and follow it and its ways will have no issues nor ever make mistakes ensuring we understand. It would never allow doubt...........ever. Perfection has no flaws.

I'm not one to upset folks or take you out of what gives you trust and comfort, but I think it's always okay, even a good thing, for each of us to question if things truly do give us trust and comfort....or not.

 

[lunarious]

I can't read your reply, I don't know ... i'll read it later. @Dagan

But Imam Sadiq (as) said:

قَالَ اللَّهُ عَزَّ وَ جَلَّ «أَنَا خَيْرُ شَرِيكٍ مَنْ أَشْرَكَ مَعِي غَيْرِي فِي عَمَلِهِ لَمْ أَقْبَلْهُ إِلَّا مَا كَانَ خَالِصاً»

God, the Most High, has said, “I am the best partner, so whoever associates a partner with Me in his actions will never have them accepted by Me, except for those actions performed purely for Me.”

This means Thé God is Allah. Don't mix things. There's only One. And He is vengful, and Merciful.

 

[lunarious]

Hehe i'll give you a thumbs up @Dagan



Edit: I like how you sealed your post bro

 

[Mary Terry]

are some people Forced to be Gay and Workless? Like i'm Forced to sit down in Force. Like other people are not Forced to live consecrated?

No.

 

[lunarious]

I'll give you thumbs up too @Mary Terry

 

[Raggamuffin]

Unfortunately there's a lot of people unhappy in the jobs they do. I was the same for 18 years.

Finding work you truly enjoy really helps one's mental health and sense of purpose in life.

As for OP wanting to "punish" various types they consider to be bad - I think that would make you just as "bad" as those you've judged as bad. Punishment is not yours to deal out to other people.

Ed

 

[lunarious]

If you injure me, it is my job to punish you. Allah will help me with that.

Edit: What's up with "punish"? Why are we talking about that?

 

[Markness]

No.

I agree. Homophobia and struggling to find work are issues society needs to fix, not sweep under the rug nor should discrimination against LGBT people and unemployment people be condoned.

 

[Markness]

If you injure me, it is my job to punish you. Allah will help me with that.

Edit: What's up with "punish"? Why are we talking about that?

You mentioned in your opening post wanting to punish Norway as well as, in your words, “Bad Jews and Bad Muslims and Bad Christians.” I don’t know what an entire country did to you nor how you can make a case for that and what is “bad” is really subjective.

 

[lunarious]

You mentioned in your opening post wanting to punish Norway as well as, in your words, “Bad Jews and Bad Muslims and Bad Christians.” I don’t know what an entire country did to you nor how you can make a case for that and what is “bad” is really subjective.

Right. I used the word "punish". But the title of this thread is "Work". I'm not talking about punishing, primarily.

47:20 The faithful say, ‘If only a surah were sent down!’ But when a conclusive surah is sent down and war is mentioned in it, you see those in whose hearts is a sickness looking upon you with the look of someone fainting at death. So woe to them!

Comment: i'm scared meaning with big eyes/fear, i don't know, maybe therefore i'm ASD

 

[Manuheleku]

Right. I used the word "punish". But the title of this thread is "Work". I'm not talking about punishing, primarily.

47:20 The faithful say, ‘If only a surah were sent down!’ But when a conclusive surah is sent down and war is mentioned in it, you see those in whose hearts is a sickness looking upon you with the look of someone fainting at death. So woe to them!

Comment: i'm scared meaning with big eyes/fear, i don't know, maybe therefore i'm ASD

Sounds like you are saying one thing but preaching something completely different. Very confusing. You say you aren't about punishment but quote literal war and punishment.

 

[Neonatal RRT]

I was looking at The Word (work) in english, and I saw that working can mean 1) Functioning like a globe is working or 2) Labour. In Iraq Arabic too. Norway Forced me to sit down litterally. I wand to Punish them, bad Jews and bad Muslims and bad Christians.

45:27 To Allah belongs the kingdom of the heavens and the earth, and when the Hour sets in, the falsifiers will be losers on that day.
45:28 And you will see every nation fallen on its knees. Every nation will be summoned to its book: ‘Today you will be requited for what you used to
45:29 This is Our book, which speaks truly against you. Indeed We used to record what you used to do.’

We Humans are supposed to work, because that's when we find meaning in our existence. Like a sled dog thrives in pulling the sled. We are of course not Dogs, and do not socialize with Dogs instead of Humans. Humans Pray, as Labour to achieve Allah's happiness and access to Paradise. But ___________ wanted to mess with Allah as we see today.

We have free will, with consequences. Allah says in Qur'an 42:29
Whoever desires the tillage of the Hereafter, We will enhance for him his tillage, and whoever desires the tillage of the world, We will give it to him, but he will have no share in the Hereafter.

Allah gives to him whom asks, and him whom doesn't ask

It took me a few reads to grasp this, but...do you mean to say that you are living in Norway and because of your ASD, they will not allow you to work? You want to work because it gives you some meaning to your existence and they are denying that of you?

OR...are you suggesting that because you are a Muslim minority in Norway, you are being discriminated against, and no one will hire you?

OR...some combination of both...being a Muslim with an ASD...perhaps two reasons for unemployment that you feel unfair?

Am I on target here, or way off?

If so, why bring "bad Jews, Muslims, and Christians" into the conversation? I don't see the connection.

Apologies, you do have a talent for using a lot of quotes from the Qur'an...and the majority of us do not have the point of reference that you do. For us to try to interpret what you are trying to articulate can be a challenge sometimes. I am making an honest effort here.

 

[Tired]

It took me a few reads to grasp this, but...do you mean to say that you are living in Norway and because of your ASD, they will not allow you to work? You want to work because it gives you some meaning to your existence and they are denying that of you?

OR...are you suggesting that because you are a Muslim minority in Norway, you are being discriminated against, and no one will hire you?

OR...some combination of both...being a Muslim with an ASD...perhaps two reasons for unemployment that you feel unfair?

Am I on target here, or way off?

If so, why bring "bad Jews, Muslims, and Christians" into the conversation? I don't see the connection.

Apologies, you do have a talent for using a lot of quotes from the Qur'an...and the majority of us do not have the point of reference that you do. For us to try to interpret what you are trying to articulate can be a challenge sometimes. I am making an honest effort here.

From what i remember he's a danger to himself and others, he's psychotic and is held in Norway in an institution where they take care of him, but he hates them for not being muslims and keeping him there against his will. I think he has schizophrenia but i'm not sure he openly ever said that.

 

[lunarious]

It took me a few reads to grasp this, but...do you mean to say that you are living in Norway and because of your ASD, they will not allow you to work? You want to work because it gives you some meaning to your existence and they are denying that of you?

OR...are you suggesting that because you are a Muslim minority in Norway, you are being discriminated against, and no one will hire you?

OR...some combination of both...being a Muslim with an ASD...perhaps two reasons for unemployment that you feel unfair?

Am I on target here, or way off?

You are correct i'm Muslim minority here in Norway and ASD, and being discriminated against for wanting Honor.

(edit) before Labour comes school and childhood. They took my childhood. I say; the Hellspersonell are persecuting me in the name of Law, before that their parents discriminated against me for being Muslim. I'm of course lucky to be Muslim.

If so, why bring "bad Jews, Muslims, and Christians" into the conversation? I don't see the connection.

Because i judge my family before I judge others outside of my family. As i lead by example.

Nearest then proceeding out. I clean my room then the rest of the house, then my community and out, like they say. Techniqally.

Apologies, you do have a talent for using a lot of quotes from the Qur'an...and the majority of us do not have the point of reference that you do. For us to try to interpret what you are trying to articulate can be a challenge sometimes. I am making an honest effort here.

We know the story of cave dwellers in Christianity and Islam. When they slept there 300 years by God's will, they woke up, and they found their money was antique and they were wealthy.

The Prophet complains to God 25:30 And the Apostle will say, ‘O my Lord! Indeed my people consigned this Quran to oblivion.’

 

[Manuheleku]

Curious, if you want to be around other Muslims, wouldn't it be better to move to a predominantly Muslim country?

 

[Markness]

Curious, if you want to be around other Muslims, wouldn't it be better to move to a predominantly Muslim country?

Apparently he can’t for various reasons.

I don’t get the bad mouthing about Norway from him. From what I’ve read of the country, there’s a lot of reasons why people want to live there and it’s considered one of the happiest nations on the planet.

 

[Manuheleku]

Apparently he can’t for various reasons.

I don’t get the bad mouthing about Norway from him. From what I’ve read of the country, there’s a lot of reasons why people want to live there and it’s considered one of the happiest nations on the planet.

True, if I decided to live in Europe, the Nordic countries would probably be a good fit for me.

 

[Hazel_1914]

From what i remember he's a danger to himself and others, he's psychotic and is held in Norway in an institution where they take care of him, but he hates them for not being muslims and keeping him there against his will. I think he has schizophrenia but i'm not sure he openly ever said that.

That explains a lot, actually.

I'm with @Markness on this one!