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Featured Why hasn't Autism (level) 1 become more used by the general public?

Discussion in 'General Autism Discussion' started by BrokenBoy, Jul 11, 2019.

  1. BrokenBoy

    BrokenBoy 戯言使い(Nonsense User)

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    The DSM replaced such terms such as "aspergers syndrome" and "high functioning autism" with better terms such as Autism levels 1-3 yet I still see people using terms like "aspie" regardless. Why hasn't Autism level 1 been used as much by the general public? "Aspie is totally dated anyways.
     
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    Starfire Well-Known Member V.I.P Member

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    I don’t think the general public is particularly interested in autism. There is no reason for them to keep up to date with the latest DSM terminology unless they are personally affected such as having friends, family children etc who are found to be on the spectrum.

    I don’t think that’s unreasonable, it’s not possible to keep up to date with everything that affects everyone all the time, life is too short to have time for that.
     
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  3. Progster

    Progster Gone sideways to the sun V.I.P Member

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    Although the DSM changed the terminology a while ago, there are still a lot of people around with an Asperger's or (classic) autism diagnosis who were diagnosed before the DSM 5 came out. To talk about my own diagnosis, I use Asperger's and not ASD 1 because that is what I was diagnosed with and not ASD1. Also the ICD 10 still uses the term Asperger's.
     
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  4. NothingToSeeHere

    NothingToSeeHere Asexuowl V.I.P Member

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    As Progster said many of us where diagnosed before the changes to the DSM, and so the older terms are correct for us. Also we may have lived with the diagnosis long enough for it to become a part of our self identity.

    Personally I say I have aspergers because people generally have some idea what it means, where as even I am not sure what "Autism Level 1" means. It's also such a clinical term that I think it's quite alienating.

    I call myself an aspie because I like the word and it accurately represents my diagnosis and my identity. I don't even know how I would use "autism level 1" to refer to myself... "I'm a oneie"? "I'm autistic, first class!"?

    Finally, the DSM is not the only diagnostic guide and it does not dictate universal reality or popular culture.
     
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  5. zurb

    zurb Eschewer of Obfuscation

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    Some great points above.
    One of the reasons the DSM 5 is rapidly losing traction outside of the USA is that it has to be bought by each clinician. ICD 10 however is publicly available. As for ourselves, we’ve stripped almost all references of the DSM out of all of our publications due to copyright concerns.
    Personally, I still like ‘Aspie’, and it is my preferred term.
    I’m interested to know why you consider level 1-3 better terms. To me, the numbers lack any meaning.
     
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  6. Rexi

    Rexi owo uwu owo Weird&Unusual Atheist Science=<3

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    I'll go ahead and quote how Autistamatic explained it.

    This was in reply to my suggestion of using the high functioning vs low functioning label to explain to people who think someone isn't autistic because they don't look/seem like it, and ever since I switched my 'aspies' term to 'auties' and I just use that.

    This is the original thread in which the discussion took place:
    Why is this happening to me? What is going on? Please help!!
     
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  7. Nomen Dubium

    Nomen Dubium Active Member V.I.P Member

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    Chances are it's like most things in popular culture: the more technical a term becomes, the less interest Joe Average has in it. 'Aspie', 'Sperg', etc are vernacular hooks and they see more exposure in mainstream media than do specific clinical terminology, which gets pushed into 'scientific' programming. The result of using such hooks for so many years is that unless there's a concerted across-the-board effort to change peoples' thinking, the established terminology remains the norm.
     
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  8. Crossbreed

    Crossbreed Neur-D Missionary ☝

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    Not everyone who had an Aspergers diagnosis was officially commuted to ASD1. We just use it, now, because it most closely resembles our experience on the spectrum.
     
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    Streetwise very cautious contributor V.I.P Member

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    do you know exactly why it was invented ?as you have a lot of experience with autism !I have very little !
     
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  10. Crossbreed

    Crossbreed Neur-D Missionary ☝

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    Severity levels describe the intensity of the co-morbid conditions, not the autism, itself.
     
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  11. Vindicator Phoenix

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    When analysis of autism is involved, I tenaciously distance myself from the medical community. Why? Abundant stigma and negligence of our strengths. I don't like being called a "disorder" or a "syndrome."
     
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  12. Rexi

    Rexi owo uwu owo Weird&Unusual Atheist Science=<3

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    Good point. When calling someone who has autism, bipolar, etc by any of those labels, that doesn't make everything they are, even if there's a label for all of the tags such as neurodiverse. People are more than that, different personality and different minds, strengths too.
     
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  13. clg114

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    It is probably because so many of us were diagnosed with the criteria in the DSM-IV. My diagnoses says that I have been diagnosed with Asperger's Syndrome (DSM-IV 299.80). The way that I see it, that makes me a Aspie. However it may be true that I am totally dated.

    It is debatable whether the terms in the DSM-V are better or not. Bunching everything into ASD levels 1 thru 3 is simplifying autism to much. Autism is not a simple subject.

    Now for the real reason that I do not like the DSM-V. Ever since 2013 it has been much harder to get a diagnosis. Why was the DSM-V set up this way? I believe that it was for political and economic reasons, not the best interest of the patient.
     
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  14. Autistamatic

    Autistamatic He's just this guy, you know? V.I.P Member

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    I've recorded a video I hope to get online by the weekend about the controversy over functioning labels which discusses some of the points raised here. I'll post a link on this forum as usual ;)
     
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    I'm in the UK so we use ICD-10, which still includes Asperger's. I was diagnosed 3 years ago with ASD, specifically Asperger's. Aspie is also quicker to say and type than autism level one.
     
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    GrownupGirl Tempermental Artist

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    Because NTs still think we're all severely intellectually disabled and therefor on the same label, I mean level.:rage:
    After hearing this from one genius NT in a Facebook story I decided to quit Facebook. For a long while, anyway.
     
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    If you’ve heard something from one neurotypical, you’ve heard something from one neurotypical. It would be silly and patently untrue to believe that’s what they all think, because they don’t.
     
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  18. china autie

    china autie friend to dogs and frogs and cats

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    The general public cares little about these things I think also.

    I was dx with "classic" autism in 1960. Aspergers was not recognized then like it is now, and would not have fit me because of the severe language delay.

    I may present now as level 1 on goid days and level 2 on meltdown or shutdown times.

    I think level 1, 2, 3 are just sneaky ways to get around high/low functioning labels.

    I certainly feel like I need more,support than I am getting.

    Officially, I am getting zero support.
    Unofficially, my boss helps me with work issues--including soft skills-- and the internet helps me with other autistic stuff.

    Not qualified for any autistic supports because the paperwork with my dx and recommending institutionalization has been lost or destroyed for several decades.

    I would have to go through dx again and the cost is prohibitative.
     
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    For me its about level of stigma. 'Autism' has the greater stigma, regardless of any qualifiers of level.
     
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    DSM-V is not even recognised in my country. It may have changed some but, to be honest, not much. It seems to carry very little weight outside USA.
     
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