Temples and Synagogues use in the Bible

[Mary Terry]

I do not know about that, well yes I do know about what Kosher and Halal are but I follow neither. But about Jesus I read that he didn't eat pork. Some church's forbid pork as well. There are certain food groups I wouldn't eat myself. I don't eat pork for one or red meat. But as a Christian God has said all food is fit to be eaten, not those words but I am a bit tired now. But what is not to be eaten is from under the sea and hoofs is this pork connection. What those are under the sea I have no real idea. I have read that some Christians avoid shrimp as not being Biblical. Many Catholics will only eat fish on a Friday. When I read that Jesus didn't eat pork and blessed some church's that didn't, it put me off for life.

Jesus was a Jew so he followed the Jewish dietary rules of the day. Many of the Old Testament dietary rules were for food safety, and not some orthodox condemnation of particular foods.

 

[Mary Terry]

I think allegorical would be in the sense people were for a long time misled about the truth through the lies people now call parables in the bible until science showed us the way. The teachings about slavery are very dangerous concepts that humans have managed on their own to abolish, against the damage of the teachings of the scriptures.

It's like that thing where you find out the truth and you move to think another thing that's just as unknown. Also called cherry-picking, what we do with our mind when we don't want to let go of the familiar.

Don't you think it's rude to attack people for their religious beliefs? Science and religion are not necessarily incompatible or mutually exclusive.

 

[jsilver256]

Jesus was a Jew so he followed the Jewish dietary rules of the day. Many of the Old Testament dietary rules were for food safety, and not some orthodox condemnation of particular foods.

Yes. Eating of unclean animals, including pork, was the most prevalent one. Many modern Jewish dietary practices (such as separating dairy and meat) were a later addition.

Jesus himself did follow it, but he was not strict on it. Matthew 15:1-20 . Then Peter received a vision in Acts 10:9-16.

You would have to read all of Hebrews to understand from a Christian perspective why Jesus' resurrection abolished those rules.

Regardless, the early Church fathers were very strict about their own diet. They fasted on Fridays (Didache) and many followed ascetic traditions of denying themselves rich foods. The complete Protestant abandonment of fasting or restricting is a recent addition.

 

[Rachie]

Yes. Eating of unclean animals, including pork, was the most prevalent one. Many modern Jewish dietary practices (such as separating dairy and meat) were a later addition.

Jesus himself did follow it, but he was not strict on it. Matthew 15:1-20 . Then Peter received a vision in Acts 10:9-16.

You would have to read all of Hebrews to understand from a Christian perspective why Jesus' resurrection abolished those rules.

Regardless, the early Church fathers were very strict about their own diet. They fasted on Fridays (Didache) and many followed ascetic traditions of denying themselves rich foods. The complete Protestant abandonment of fasting or restricting is a recent addition.

Thank you so much for posting this. It needed to be said, your interpetation as well gives understanding. What we eat will motor us and give us strenght to work or support children/families etc giving them their daily bread. Thank you again. I was debating whether I needed to buy more seaweed as well as I am down to my lasts still. It wasn't a question of wasting things. It was a now a question whether I would buy anymore again that I was enjoying. It even appeared on a photo with my dad in the off topic section on a plate. Leave it there.
I love meats for the belly (1 Corinthians 6:12-13) .
I kept quiet on weak Christians. Come on this is not the way to go. Let's not go there.

 

[All-Rounder]

I'm not being nasty but some people should really try to read a bible as left own devices, is not good idea.
Sorry

Honestly you can study all of them, why choose just one to study? Learning more is better.

Spoiler

 

[All-Rounder]

Who made your shoes or mined the minerals in your phone?

Certainly some invisible man-creature that also comes to tie my laces since I'm autistic and resides somewhere where I can't easily see, like under my bed or in my closet.

You heard about the dragon in the closet allegory, nobody has proof it exists, or that it doesn't exist, but that doesn't mean I should spend my life thinking it does.

 

[All-Rounder]

Don't you think it's rude to attack people for their religious beliefs? Science and religion are not necessarily incompatible or mutually exclusive.

Oh I know you would be more comfortable if I defended the lies in the Bible... But I can't, really there is no covering the slavery and horrible and inaccurate lies about the history of humanity described in the Bible, and the level of lack of psychological education that is very common for the middle ages, the time when the deity God was written about. Which was also after a bunch of other deities. Call it white lying, excusing behavior, cherry-picking only the accurate parts to give yourself an impression of integrity but I personally don't buy that.

I would like to also point out to add to a point made of reading the Bible, that in the Stone Age, prehistoric times, humans did not necessitate religion for morality otherwise they would have killed their species off without it. They had a morality sense without the knowledge of "good and bad" as portrayed in various religious writings, let alone Christianity which wasn't the first religious invention. They didn't have Shamanism, and they were probably better off because a lot of religious practices killed children or mutilated followers in mass amounts, and is psychologically affecting a lot of people. Thankfully I escaped the effects of deity belief and the way it trapped me, but not after it laid plenty of damage on me, my open-mindedness and view of the world.

And I realize there are many opposing views between religious teaching, psychology, science and they won't work together if i also want to be honest. Honesty is hard but running away from this incongruency is way worse. Deity cultism taught me fallacious reasoning to make up for these inaccuracies, and I aim to renounce that type of reasoning and use psychology as my lead instead, since we have plenty of evidence of its existence and payoffs on masses. Psychology is easy, said no one ever. Con artistry continues to fool even experts, and we are in an age which doesn't value or teach critical thinking and is still taught to settle for being lied to, even though they know the downsides of it. People are trained to let go of critical thinking, and their senses of justice along with accepting the abuse portrayed by the deity they follow and having double standards for morality for themselves vs the deity they serve and the lies they trust.

 

[Rachie]

The last three posts. This image is not appropriate in this thread. This is a thread at core about Christianity and Judaism. People can express their opinion. If you want to discuss about another belief why not start a new post titled appropriately instead forcing the above images in people’s faces who not share the faith or may want to avoid seeing such images and will see it unknowingly. That is not right.

 

[Nitro]

This forum area is for anyone who wants to discuss religion. This forum is not for debating religion, preaching to others or talking down to others based on their religious beliefs.

 

[Mary Terry]

Thank you so much for posting this. It needed to be said, your interpetation as well gives understanding. What we eat will motor us and give us strenght to work or support children/families etc giving them their daily bread. Thank you again. I was debating whether I needed to buy more seaweed as well as I am down to my lasts still. It wasn't a question of wasting things. It was a now a question whether I would buy anymore again that I was enjoying. It even appeared on a photo with my dad in the off topic section on a plate. Leave it there.
I love meats for the belly (1 Corinthians 6:12-13) .
I kept quiet on weak Christians. Come on this is not the way to go. Let's not go there.

Your question about seaweed intrigued me so I skimmed through Leviticus and Deuteronomy. It seems to me that the restrictions on various types of seafood apply to animals like shellfish such as oysters, shrimp, scallops and lobster and not to plants like seaweed that live in the ocean. Am I reading that right?

 

[Rachie]

Your question about seaweed intrigued me so I skimmed through Leviticus and Deuteronomy. It seems to me that the restrictions on various types of seafood apply to animals like shellfish such as oysters, shrimp, scallops and lobster and not to plants like seaweed that live in the ocean. Am I reading that right?

Thank you Mary Terry for taking the time to look into this for me. I have not found a definte answer to this. It though would I think come under Genesis 1.29 about seeds. According to one page I saw on a website last week there was no seeds in it. It is quite confusing to say the least.
"And God said, Behold, I have given you every herb bearing seed, which is upon the face of all the earth, and every tree, in the which is the fruit of a tree yielding seed; to you it shall be for meat".
This is the website I saw, I skimmed it.
Genesis 1:29-30 Plants and Fruits that are allowed | Biblical Truth

 

[Mary Terry]

Thank you Mary Terry for taking the time to look into this for me. I have not found a definte answer to this. It though would I think come under Genesis 1.29 about seeds. According to one page I saw on a website last week there was no seeds in it. It is quite confusing to say the least.
"And God said, Behold, I have given you every herb bearing seed, which is upon the face of all the earth, and every tree, in the which is the fruit of a tree yielding seed; to you it shall be for meat".

I think that means that God provides plants and trees as food for people. I looked up seaweed and found that it propagates by spreading spores and spores are the same as seeds. Very interesting!

 

[jsilver256]

Certainly some invisible man-creature that also comes to tie my laces since I'm autistic and resides somewhere where I can't easily see, like under my bed or in my closet.

You heard about the dragon in the closet allegory, nobody has proof it exists, or that it doesn't exist, but that doesn't mean I should spend my life thinking it does.

You miss my point. I was challenging your premise that man abolished slavery.

Spoiler: Video of child mining

 

[Rachie]

I think that means that God provides plants and trees as food for people. I looked up seaweed and found that it propagates by spreading spores and spores are the same as seeds. Very interesting!

You replied to me very quickly. I went back and edited in a link which you never saw. I linked to the website I read that I mentioned. I am sure there other pages online trying to come up with a different meaning. The bottom line is the clincher.
I will quote-
1 Corinthians 6:19-20 “Do you not know that your body is a temple of the Holy Spirit, who is in you, whom you have received from Yeshua? You are not your own; 20 you were bought at a price. Therefore honor God with your body,”

HE created our bodies and HE lives inside of us. The Ruach haKodesh lives inside of anyone that has Faith in the Messiah. So think about that every time you are about to put something in your body that HE has commanded we shouldn’t. You are literally feeding our Messiah’s Set Apart Spirit the very food HE commanded we avoid. This includes stuff like Kelp or Seaweed.
Genesis 1:29-30 Plants and Fruits that are allowed | Biblical Truth

The product is a very small snack. It is packaged. It is not exactly fresh.

 

[Levitat0r]

I haven't been following this discussion, but what I see pervasively on the Internet is the appalling ignorance and malice which disregards the Judaic heritage of Christianity, or the way that "Synagogue" often winds up meaning the same thing as "Church", because that's what a house of worship was at the time. I've even heard fascism trolls invoke the scriptural quote "synagogue of Satan" disregarding that that was a commentary equivalent to "Church of satan", a general warning about false religion, and not a slight to Jesus' own heritage. The constant efforts to drive wedges between the two faiths, and to engage in double-speak, deception, and misdirection gives you a picture of who the world belongs to, and it ought to serve as a motivator for greater unity and exchange between the faiths. Definitely resist.

 

[Rachie]

This is regarding the seaweed. You learn to be careful on the internet. May be years ago the first page you see you may go for it without questioning. Sometimes you may be able to tell more right with previous knowledge if something seems right to you. People will tell you also you're vulnerable to taking and believing things, you work twice as hard to see through it. In the past you've been taken in.....do it again shame on me...Shouldn't be. Well lyrics.
I wonder if that one is good to go. .May be next week some research and I totally don't have the time this week. Lol.
I read what I posted from that website and it was so strong. Still I need to explore some more things in my time. I don't like it when multiple things write different things.

 

[Levitat0r]

This is regarding the seaweed. You learn to be careful on the internet. May be years ago the first page you see you may go for it without questioning. Sometimes you may be able to tell more right with previous knowledge. People will tell you also you're vulnerable to taking and believing things, you work twice as hard to see through it. In the past you've taken in.....do it again shame on me...Shouldn't be. Well lyrics.
I wonder if that one is good to go, but where can I find from..may be next week some research and I totally don't have the time this work. Lol.
I read from I posted from that website and it was so strong. Still I need to explore some more things in my time. I don't like it when multiple things write different things.

This is actually with pertinence to the guy who runs the Gab network, and it is spooky how much underhandedness I'm seeing there. Early on, he was identified as a major bigot, but when you went and looked for examples, they were total straw men, like that synagogue comment. That's actually in the Bible, and if you interpret it as intended, it's not antisemitic. So, a naive person would say "Well, then Torba is just being slandered". Later, it was demonstrated very vividly that this guy is running around promoting a social network which calls for violence against minorities and open white supremacy. The world seems to have descended to an unprecedented level of insanity, confusion, and deception which looks entirely Babylonian. It really is people stacking semantic nonsense, confusion, deception, and redefinition so high that there is little meaning left.

 

[Rachie]

This is actually with pertinence to the guy who runs the Gab network, and it is spooky how much underhandedness I'm seeing there. Early on, he was identified as a major bigot, but when you went and looked for examples, they were total straw men, like that synagogue comment. That's actually in the Bible, and if you interpret it as intended, it's not antisemitic. So, a naive person would say "Well, then Torba is just being slandered". Later, it was demonstrated very vividly that this guy is running around promoting a social network which calls for violence against minorities and open white supremacy. The world seems to have descended to an unprecedented level of insanity, confusion, and deception which looks entirely Babylonian. It really is people stacking semantic nonsense, confusion, deception, and redefinition so high that there is little meaning left.

Your post seems very interesting but I am not managing to catch what you mean. Can you break it down simply to a few key words. Thank you.

 

[Levitat0r]

Your post seems very interesting but I am not managing to catch what you mean. Can you break it down simply to a few key words. Thank you.

Yeah, it seems like people warn you of who someone is, then they try to debunk their own argument so that you'll run into his arms, and then he turns into the monster you were promised. it seems like they were setting a trap, certainly to create guilt by association, and also by creating a guilt-free trial period, where people are in the arms of a racist for a while before finally realizing that's really what he is. So, they are both selling a racist to actual racists, and also guilting people who didn't intend to wind up in his fold.

 

[Rachie]

Yeah, it seems like people warn you of who someone is, then they try to debunk their own argument so that you'll run into his arms, and then he turns into the monster you were promised. it seems like they were setting a trap, certainly to create guilt by association, and also by creating a guilt-free trial period, where people are in the arms of a racist for a while before finally realizing that's really what he is. So, they are both selling a racist to actual racists, and also guilting people who didn't intend to wind up in his fold.

Getting you, thank you so much for posting for clarification. Always things can be broken down further. Two words sometimes. I am nodding so I am understanding much better so thank you.
Perhaps or not.-Scam
lol or not
To be seen.