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Sensitive Topic Right To Die Questions

Discussion in 'Autism Spectrum News, Events and Research' started by deathrow2016, Feb 7, 2016.

  1. gonzerd

    gonzerd Stranger V.I.P Member

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    Well, I'm from Belgium and I'd say chances are pretty slim on getting this kind of 'palliative care', unless you've been seeing a physician for an extensive period of time, they have a full medical history and you have gone through all possible treatments to no avail. Given that you're only 20, that's probably not the case.

    I'd suggest you have a look at one of these in your neck of the woods, give them a call and seek actual help. You're only 20, the average life expectancy over there is 78.7 years. That's another 58.7 to make it better. For some life's good at 20, for others it takes a little longer to sort things out. Seek council and work on your problems, one step at a time. There are people to help you with this.

    I know this probably just makes you angry, but it is the way it is. I have melancholic depression, I've dealt with suicide and abuse, you just have to pull on through. I have friends who went through probably a lot worse, and they'll tell you just the same. It does suck, and it is hard, really ****ing hard at times, but once you get through it's so much better. So do talk about your problems (it's not gay; gay is having sex with people of your own gender, and going by what I hear from the few gay people I know, it can be pretty ****ing amazing. But that's beside the point.) Just go find the right people to talk to, and then talk to them, so they can try to help. Or cry for the first few hours; they won't judge. Just keep on trying.
     
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  2. tree

    tree Blue/Green Staff Member V.I.P Member

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    How so?
    Can you give examples of this
    'crippling barrier'?
     
  3. deathrow2016

    deathrow2016 Retro Obsessed

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    The thing is, it may not be the disease itself. But the stigma. I can try to avoid that by saying I don't have it, but medical records show it so I'm stuck. Just the sound of "aspergers" when said aloud irritates the piss out of me. The stigma assures I'll never be loved or hold a good paying job. The stigma assures I'll have problems forever. Basically, just the perception of it is a death sentence all its own.
     
  4. Datura

    Datura Well-Known Member

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    I believe you may be catastrophizing. Admittedly, people on the spectrum do have a lower chance of finding gainful employment and steady relationships, but it is far from unheard of. People on this very forum have managed to do one or both of those things. Some of them are even exceedingly successful.

    As for your medical records; perhaps it is different where you live, but I was always of the impression that such things were confidential. Furthermore, it is illegal in many places to discriminate against employees for medical reasons. While there is no way to actually prevent this in practice it does preclude employers from asking such information, unless said disability would prevent an individual from fulfilling the basic requirements of the job.
     
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    tree Blue/Green Staff Member V.I.P Member

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    To what 'disease' are you referring?
     
  6. unsurewhattoname

    unsurewhattoname Well-Known Member

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    I believe he's referring to asperger's.
     
  7. tree

    tree Blue/Green Staff Member V.I.P Member

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    The feelings he expresses
    toward the word "Asperger's" are
    very negative, but Asperger's is a
    syndrome, not a disease.

    I am waiting to see what he says.
    :evergreen:
     
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  8. unsurewhattoname

    unsurewhattoname Well-Known Member

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    It's under the ICD (International Statistical Classification of Diseases and Related Health Problems) so is it not a disease?
     
  9. tree

    tree Blue/Green Staff Member V.I.P Member

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    A syndrome is a set of symptoms.
    Asperger's is a syndrome.

    I am not trying to have a definition debate.
    I am waiting to see what the OP can say for
    himself, about himself (his thoughts).
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  10. EeyoreSyndrome

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    You do actually have to put forth effort into finding a job and forming relationships. They don't just magically come *to* you.

    I'm a conflict avoidant adult child of alcoholics myself. On top of major depression / anxiety issues. And pretty sure I'm an aspie, [email protected] who really cares to dx me.

    Life constantly seems too hard, stresses me all the time..but I just keep trodding through the slop myself.

    I'm in a sexless relationship right now that I gave up my old job for and moved cross country. Because being alone scares me more then being brave to *try* and find something better. So I have no high horse. But life is what you make it into.
     
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  11. AsperDragon

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    Deathrow2016...sounds like you should keep living just to spite your evil ass mother. I have thought about suicide more days than not a and my main two reasons for still living are the fear of ****ing it up as well as to spite the world that makes me want to commit suicide.
    As far as rights go. ...it is my firm belief that everyone has the right to live and die by their own terms. I hope you can find happiness and i wish you success in your endeavors.
     
  12. King_Oni

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    Recently I saw a report about a euthanasia clinic in my country (The Netherlands)... thought it gave a nice perspective on the process and all. Multiple patients were interviewed throughout the process as well as doctors and therapists involved.

    From what I've gathered there is that it still requires an extensive programme to follow through with specialists who will assess if your situation is so bad there's no reason to live. Among the patients was a 40 or 50 year old with severe OCD who selfharmed and tried plenty of treatments and already lived in a group home and a few elderly women who had so many physical issues it just wasn't worth living.. .to them.

    If you're halfway your 20s or 30s there's a slim chance unless you have an extensive record of help you had already. Never trying anything to improve (which I'm not saying you haven't) doesn't really convince such a clinic to go along with it.
     
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  13. karen70

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    And its this type of post that totally gets my goat.

    A person who has every right to be understood, listened to and supported, yet the ignorance is so often exactly that.... just ignorance.

    My mom is the people police, she is more interested in the bloke who's let his dog **** in the park than someone dying because she has such a tiny mind herself. Sad but very true.

    Some people just do not want to be educated, they are happy being stuck in their bubble and denying their part to play in the upbringing of their children... and this could quite easily be a case of them simply 'not knowing' any difference themselves.

    Young man, you have all of your life experiences that make you want to just go, leave, and I understand this. However, you have a voice, your experiences hold value, maybe not in the areas for which you currently find yourself unfortunately stuck in... but outside of that.

    Your life experiences are the exact kind of experiences for which you have a right as a person to be understood and in finding that right channel (yes, it may seem an impossibility) can and will educate the higher people, the professionals, the ones that have a wonderfully 'apparent' neurotypical brain that are ONLY JUST realising that there is something so wrong here on this planet for which so many of us have always known we don't fit.

    For me personally, it started with going on a college course.... I learnt how to learn and I learnt I had enough life experiences to show how seriously messed up and ignorant 'these specialists' really are.

    This forum is amazing in at least learning from other experiences.