Prejudice is lifting rapidly ( not against humans)

[Suzanne]

I was on prozac for years and it only caused a nightmare for me and I swore I would never take another chemical again!

Also, other chemical meds have caused or nearly caused damage and therefore, I turned right away. It was with horror when my first psychiatric visit ended with me being given anti depressants. I must admit, I did not take them; just pretended to, because I felt too much pressure and so, it was acknowledged that I was not going to accept medicine, but since I won't talk about my past due to ptsd, it kind of caused a blockage for the therapist to help me.

Well, this time, when he asked what I wanted to acheive that day, I said: to not suffer anxiety and then he said that there is medicine that can help me. So, in the end, I am given two types and one is to lift my mood and help me want to live a normal life and the other one is actually used for scizophrenia ( bad spelling) and autistic traits.

I am being a "good girl" now and taking them. I get very tired and sluggish, but goodness me, I am sleeping very well and even though the therapist said it would take 3 weeks to see a difference, I am already feeling better.

I suffer from extreme anger issues and hate them, but am powerless to stop them ( never hurt physically anyone) and I am finding that even when I got angry this morning, it was briely and I could also be ok at the same time!!

Usually, my husband can really press my anger buttons, because of not coming in when he said he would, even though the food is being kept warm. It is a way blown out kind of anger and I have hated it, but again, the red ball is just too powerful for me. Anyway, just the other day, the table was laid and he decided to do some work on his van, despite being hungry and his food ready and guess what? I just felt so calm and blaze about it and even when he apologised, I just said: not to worry, it is keeping warm; just please don't take all night!

My racing thoughts also have calmed down. I mean, I do get them still, but there is a sense of inner peace. I just feel a sense of calm and well, I have to thank the medicine for that, so bravo you two beauties lol

I also promised my therapist and hubby that I would not look up the negative effects and I am keeping that promise.

 

[onlything]

I was on prozac for years and it only caused a nightmare for me and I swore I would never take another chemical again!

Also, other chemical meds have caused or nearly caused damage and therefore, I turned right away. It was with horror when my first psychiatric visit ended with me being given anti depressants. I must admit, I did not take them; just pretended to, because I felt too much pressure and so, it was acknowledged that I was not going to accept medicine, but since I won't talk about my past due to ptsd, it kind of caused a blockage for the therapist to help me.

Well, this time, when he asked what I wanted to acheive that day, I said: to not suffer anxiety and then he said that there is medicine that can help me. So, in the end, I am given two types and one is to lift my mood and help me want to live a normal life and the other one is actually used for scizophrenia ( bad spelling) and autistic traits.

I am being a "good girl" now and taking them. I get very tired and sluggish, but goodness me, I am sleeping very well and even though the therapist said it would take 3 weeks to see a difference, I am already feeling better.

I suffer from extreme anger issues and hate them, but am powerless to stop them ( never hurt physically anyone) and I am finding that even when I got angry this morning, it was briely and I could also be ok at the same time!!

Usually, my husband can really press my anger buttons, because of not coming in when he said he would, even though the food is being kept warm. It is a way blown out kind of anger and I have hated it, but again, the red ball is just too powerful for me. Anyway, just the other day, the table was laid and he decided to do some work on his van, despite being hungry and his food ready and guess what? I just felt so calm and blaze about it and even when he apologised, I just said: not to worry, it is keeping warm; just please don't take all night!

My racing thoughts also have calmed down. I mean, I do get them still, but there is a sense of inner peace. I just feel a sense of calm and well, I have to thank the medicine for that, so bravo you two beauties lol

I also promised my therapist and hubby that I would not look up the negative effects and I am keeping that promise.

Glad it's working for you and I hope it's not just placebo effect so prominent in the first few days of taking the pills. Be sure to observe the body for side effects and good luck!

Honestly, I got any difference after a bit more than a month, so be patient and although its obvious don't stop taking them when you feel better and try not to mix them with too much alcohol. Withdrawal can be a real nightmare, not physically but mentally.

Well, you can do it. Just good luck again. Don't worry if your head feels a bit full, it's rather typical when you take meds influencing serotonin etc. levels.

 

[Mary Lyn]

Suzanne

Sorry to hear this. Doctors don't tell you that here are better solutions to mental health problems.

https://nutritionfacts.org/topics/mental-health/

Any medication taken long term or even short term is going to have side effects, which basically means another disease is caused. I think it is sometimes needed in an emergency situation like life or death, but is not a real solution. I think you should listen to your body. Aspies have a harder time metabolising medications and therefore I would think they do more harm.

But you are on them and improving. Good as it stands but I would advise you to start researching better solutions.

Getting ones diet right takes some time and until you have it established and are improving enough for your doctors to reduce and hopefully come off your meds, you need to stay on them. They are not your little angels however.

 

[Mr Allen]

I used to take a tablet called Tegretol Retard about 17 years ago.

Objected to taking it because of the name, as I was (and still do sometimes) getting called retarded online by a bunch of morons on a North American wrestling forum I used to post on, and it had side effects of drowsiness etc, which I also objected to, I don't need anything to make me more dozy than I already am.

 

[the_tortoise]

I am happy for you, Suzanne, and I hope you have found a solution that will work for you. I echo everyone else who says to observe and tread carefully, but still I am happy and hopeful for you.

Any medication taken long term or even short term is going to have side effects, which basically means another disease is caused.

This is an interesting way of conceptualizing side effects (makes sense to me -- like a category of iatrogenic illness, meaning illness caused by medical examination or treatment) but the overall statement is incorrect. Any medication taken short of long term is going to have effects, but not everyone will experience side effects.

Pretty much all medications that have any biological affect at all come with a risk of side effects or adverse effects for some individuals, but that does not mean those undesirable/side effects are guaranteed to occur in every individual.

Also, while I do agree that nutrition can have a profound impact on mental health, mental health difficulties cannot always be remedied with nutritional interventions -- or nutritional interventions alone. Everyone is different.

My view is that we cannot know what is the best solution for another person, only ourselves. For some, medication may be the only thing that works, may be the only solution they have access to, may simply work better than other things, or the person may just prefer it as a solution for any number of reasons. For others, medication is the worst option, or doesn't even work, etc.

 

[tree]

@Mr Allen

You know, you just did the same thing you
don't like other people to do.

Morons called you retarded, eh?

How come it's OK for you to call names,
but not OK for others to do so?

 

[Mary Lyn]

I stand by what l said - let her listen to her body before it was pusuaded by others.

 

[the_tortoise]

I stand by what l said - let her listen to her body before it was pusuaded by others.

I agree that she is the one who knows best.

 

[Mr Allen]

@Mr Allen

You know, you just did the same thing you
don't like other people to do.

Morons called you retarded, eh?

How come it's OK for you to call names,
but not OK for others to do so?

Meh, this isn't the Politics section, but most people on here know my feelings regarding Americans in general, I tolerate their presence online, but I tend not to get on with them due to being bullied on various other forums by them.

 

[tree]

Meh, this isn't the Politics section, but most people on here know my feelings regarding Americans in general, I tolerate their presence online, but I tend not to get on with them due to being bullied on various other forums by them.

That's not a real answer to the question.

Politics has nothing to do with just thinking it's
OK to insult people. You do realize that calling someone
"moron" is on the same level as calling someone
"retard"?

It seems to me that by doing that you are demonstrating
that your behavior isn't all that different from what you
say you don't like.

 

[Bolletje]

I used to take a tablet called Tegretol Retard about 17 years ago.

Objected to taking it because of the name

“Retard” with regards to medication just means it’s a slow-release variant of the medication. There’s nothing offensive about that. Do you object to flame retardants as well?

 

[Suzanne]

Glad it's working for you and I hope it's not just placebo effect so prominent in the first few days of taking the pills. Be sure to observe the body for side effects and good luck!

Honestly, I got any difference after a bit more than a month, so be patient and although its obvious don't stop taking them when you feel better and try not to mix them with too much alcohol. Withdrawal can be a real nightmare, not physically but mentally.

Well, you can do it. Just good luck again. Don't worry if your head feels a bit full, it's rather typical when you take meds influencing serotonin etc. levels.

Could be the placebo effect, but knowing my body as I do, I actually think it is the real thing and the reason? Because they are subtle differences and I can only tell, as I am in touch with what my body tells me.

One of the meds is only 1mg and he said to me, that he wants to start me off on a very low dose, to just see what happens.

Oh and my head feels full WITHOUT the medicine. I get a sense of calmness despite my head churning with thoughts, which is really weird, but certainly not unpleasant.

It is just so nice to not stay angry and to be able to rationalise without that torrant of red mass overloading me.

If, by the time I see my psychiatrist, the effects have worn off and I am left depressed etc, then I will let him know, because despite how much he angers me, I like him very much, in the fact that he works my brain.

 

[Suzanne]

Suzanne

Sorry to hear this. Doctors don't tell you that here are better solutions to mental health problems.

mental health | Health Topics | NutritionFacts.org

Any medication taken long term or even short term is going to have side effects, which basically means another disease is caused. I think it is sometimes needed in an emergency situation like life or death, but is not a real solution. I think you should listen to your body. Aspies have a harder time metabolising medications and therefore I would think they do more harm.

But you are on them and improving. Good as it stands but I would advise you to start researching better solutions.

Getting ones diet right takes some time and until you have it established and are improving enough for your doctors to reduce and hopefully come off your meds, you need to stay on them. They are not your little angels however.

I am on such a low dose on one of the medicines ie 1mg. My diet is also good, because I try to be moderate and that means, I eat pretty much everything, but not in mad quanties.

Believe me, I have researched what I go through, for years! I have taken a natural anti anxiety for years, which does work, but only to just remove the edge of the anxious feelings.

From hating the thought of a little bit of socialising, to now thinking: I can just about cope, I think, is a major plus to me. And the fact that my anger issues have calmed right down.

Because I am really wide awake to what disasters can befall the body, from taking chemical meds, I will be keeping an eye on what is going on. So, if my liver count goes up etc, then I will talk to my therapist.

But for now, it is true, I am on a high, but a high where all my senses feel good and calm; rather than jumping on a bus and going for a spending spree lol

I have a very bad case of social phobia. I see one person walking out side, I dart right back in doors. As soon as I close our gates, I feel a sense of relief; safe! I hate those feelings.

 

[Suzanne]

I used to take a tablet called Tegretol Retard about 17 years ago.

Objected to taking it because of the name, as I was (and still do sometimes) getting called retarded online by a bunch of morons on a North American wrestling forum I used to post on, and it had side effects of drowsiness etc, which I also objected to, I don't need anything to make me more dozy than I already am.

I get what you mean, but what I do is look at the root meaning of the word and "retard" I believe, means, slowing up, so in this case, slowing negative effects.

As for Americans, my spiritual mom is American and my best friend is too. And well, are you saying that no ones from the uk are offensive towards you?

 

[Suzanne]

Pretty much all medications that have any biological affect at all come with a risk of side effects or adverse effects for some individuals, but that does not mean those undesirable/side effects are guaranteed to occur in every individual.

My psychiatrist talked to me about the side effects, because this was a major concern. I did not want to be left feeling like a zombie etc and so, he reasoned that if there is a 10% chance of me feeling good with the medicine, am I going to say no, because of that? I replied: it depends on the side effects!

I have been ordered by both my therapist and husband, to not look up the side effects, because it WILL influence my taking or not taking and the truth is, that it is all just a disclaimer.

 

[ksheehan88]

That's not a real answer to the question.

Politics has nothing to do with just thinking it's
OK to insult people. You do realize that calling someone
"moron" is on the same level as calling someone
"retard"?

It seems to me that by doing that you are demonstrating
that your behavior isn't all that different from what you
say you don't like.

Agree @tree.

Treat others the way you would want to be treated comes to mind.

 

[Mary Lyn]

@Suzanne

Eating a little bit of everything is not a diet that will enable your mind and body to heal. It needs drastic changes though not everyone wants to do that or can do that. It means limiting your food to whole food plant based and the best results are coming from no sugar oil or salt. Look up How Not to Die, and Forks Over Knives to srtat with. Dr Joel Fuhrman is another good source.

 

[Suzanne]

@Suzanne

Eating a little bit of everything is not a diet that will enable your mind and body to heal. It needs drastic changes though not everyone wants to do that or can do that. It means limiting your food to whole food plant based and the best results are coming from no sugar oil or salt. Look up How Not to Die, and Forks Over Knives to srtat with. Dr Joel Fuhrman is another good source.

I do not eat refined sugars and anything I buy, I look at the "other sugars". I use olive oil and peanut oil and pink and blue salt.

In fact, I have made a drastic change in my eating habits, because I used to eat a LOT of sugar and I mean a lot. I would have up to 5 spoonfuls of sugar in my coffee and a DR recommended that when I get a sugar low, that I should have sugar water and that did the trick for when I get shaky.

In fact, on a hunch, I looked up overactive thyroid and ibs and hypoglocemia and there is a huge link and what surprised me and makes perfect sense, is that eating too much refined sugars causes an overactive thyroid, which is what I have been diagnosed with, but taking natural thyroid meds and sure is working.

It is true that vegetable oils and cola oil and sun flower oil are not good for the health.

When I say that I eat everything; what I mean is that I eat fish and a bit of meat ( can only tolerate chicken, mince meat and pork). I eat potatoes and rice and spagetti and dairy but mostly our own chicken eggs. I also make my own granery bread.

I do believe that what we put into our stomachs, plays a huge part on how our brains function and I cannot stomach fast food type foods.

Moderation is the key and that is why I strive for.

 

[Mary Lyn]

That is the problem Suzanne, people go from an absolutely dreadful diet to one that is better, but they are still eating foods that harm. You cannot have moderation when you consume harmful foods and 95% of the population are misinformed about what is truly healthy.

If you are eating a truly healthy diet you will be seeing the conditions you suffer from disappearing one by one because most of what we are eating is bad news including any oils and animal products especially cheese.

It is such an important area that we should not be just picking up ideas from the media because all of the food industires including the meat and dairy ones, are pumping out misinformation.

You have to look at the science if you really want to avoid the dark path in which medication lead you down and the science says plants.

 

[Mr Allen]

That's not a real answer to the question.

Politics has nothing to do with just thinking it's
OK to insult people. You do realize that calling someone
"moron" is on the same level as calling someone
"retard"?

It seems to me that by doing that you are demonstrating
that your behavior isn't all that different from what you
say you don't like.

If they hadn't called the R word, I wouldn't call them the M word.

Do you see?