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I am hoping to get financial aid for chronic social anxiety

Suzanne

Suzanne

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Have a letter from my "wonderful" dr o_O to see a psychiatrist and hope to get an official diagnosis for social anxiety. No point in trying for aspergers, since, here in France, they do not recognise it as authentic.

If I can get an official diagnosis, then I can apply for financial aid and even the chance of someone taking me shopping or sitting in the dr's surgery.

I used to be so ashamed of this; still feel it when have to do things on my own, but less shame talking about it, since a sort of friend said that there is nothing to be ashamed of and for some reason, that truly has helped me to see it as a disability, rather than something thing that I am weak in. Oh, of course I am, but in truth, I do try to push myself; just doesn't work.

If a place is familiar, I am just about ok.
 
It is a shame that Asperger's isn't recognized in France. Mental conditions are real no matter what territory you reside in. I wish you luck in obtaining the assistance you need.
 
I'm shocked about it not being recognised. France has the best health care in Europe. Maybe not for Autism specifically then. Do they acknowledge classic Autism at least? Just out of curiosity, I'd like to know.
 
Judge said:
France's autism treatment 'shame' - BBC News

US Autism & Asperger Association
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Thanks for the informative articles. I am angered and surprised at this. It truly is shameful.
I'm from the UK, and was misdiagnosed with Bipolar and suffered on my own with mistreatment therapies until this year, at 34 I was diagnosed with Asperger's/High Functioning Autism.
Here, there's not much help for HFA adults, and resources/specialist's that are trained to diagnose or assist are very few, but it depends on what part of the country you live in. It still seems better than a lot of countries.

I hope the situation in France improves A LOT more. :(
 
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Thanks for the informative articles. I am angered and surprised at this. It truly is shameful.
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It does seem quite discouraging...even from a view across the pond.

Where IMO politicians and insurers appear to have colluded with the medical establishment to downplay high-functioning autism in an effort to control costs.
 
AveApollo said:
I'm shocked about it not being recognised. France has the best health care in Europe. Maybe not for Autism specifically then. Do they acknowledge classic Autism at least? Just out of curiosity, I'd like to know.
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No, no, it is a pretence or at the least level, it is covered over. The reason it appears to be the best is because you get an appointment very fast or in most cases, it is first come first served and tests come back really fast; like two day's after and hospital appointments are fast too, but the actual medicine aspect, is just awful.

It is common to see a French person come out of a chemist with a huge bag of medicine and they even sell bags. They were quite astonished at my lack of medicine and that pleases me hugely.
 
Suzanne said:
No, no, it is a pretence or at the least level, it is covered over. The reason it appears to be the best is because you get an appointment very fast or in most cases, it is first come first served and tests come back really fast; like two day's after and hospital appointments are fast too, but the actual medicine aspect, is just awful.

It is common to see a French person come out of a chemist with a huge bag of medicine and they even sell bags. They were quite astonished at my lack of medicine and that pleases me hugely.
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France were the best according to the World Health Organisation...
World Health Organization ranking of health systems in 2000 - Wikipedia
Also, I knew an PhD international economist who was analysing this sort of thing, and he said the same. However, data in the last few years hasn't been as forthcoming I believe, partly because of politics. Things also change, as this report is old.
 
Suzanne said:
Yes, but I live in France!
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And? Until you live in other countries too, you can't compare. Also, listening to others from other countries talking about their system just because they live there is also, is subjective as well, not objective. These studies from WHO are objective, not about people's opinions only (how can the people really compare unless they experienced health care in many other countries). Aside from Autism care, which seems objectively bad in France, how do you know it's not very good if you haven't experienced the system in my country or another. It might be that your region in France is bad, or that if you lived in another country, you'd begin to think how much better it is in France.

These studies do ask the people in the country about what they think, so French people would have been surveyed. However, things may have changed, like I said.

But I do appreciate that you have a valuable experience, living there and might see things on a daily basis, that might not be reported as accurately in studies. For example, studies might show that certain aspects of health care are good in the UK, but many hospitals are extremely bad, where people go in for a small operation and then get a disease or illness because the place was unclean.
 
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AveApollo said:
And? Until you live in other countries too, you can't compare. Also, listening to others from other countries talking about their system just because they live there is also, is subjective as well, not objective. These studies from WHO are objective, not about people's opinions only (how can the people really compare unless they experienced health care in many other countries). Aside from Autism care, which seems objectively bad in France, how do you know it's not very good if you haven't experienced the system in my country or another. It might be that your region in France is bad, or that if you lived in another country, you'd begin to think how much better it is in France.

These studies do ask the people in the country about what they think, so French people would have been surveyed. However, things may have changed, like I said.

But I do appreciate that you have a valuable experience, living there and might see things on a daily basis, that might not be reported as accurately in studies. For example, studies might show that certain aspects of health care are good in the UK, but many hospitals are extremely bad, where people go in for a small operation and then get a disease or illness because the place was unclean.
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If studies are comparing France to other countries as in how fast you get to see a dr and the fact that it is the norm for nurses to come to your home and take blood at YOUR convenience and the results are pretty fast, then INDEED France would come top on the list of excellent services.

But, I guess it depends on what a person is seeking. Quick results or excellent care? I mean, they should go hand and hand, because it could be too late for excellent care, but I find drs here ( and I only ever met one dr who was amazing and he had retired anyway and was just stepping in), to be absolute rubbish. They believe they are gods and hate anyone questioning them. Now, as far as am aware, this is pretty worldwide; so if other countries have it FAR worse, then yes, France would come out on top, in a relative way.

In truth, I hate stastitcs, because they do not truly give the accurate results and often miss vital areas that need attention. Take for example the notion that France is superior with the medical system, in comparison to other countries, but people are being constantly misdiagnosed and dying; no one would look because it would be hidden within the stastitics ( sorry for bad spelling).
 
Just to say, that on the 4th of January, I have an appointment with a pschiatrist and in truth, I am already panicking. I know I have social anxiety, but I fear that she will not listen and accuse me of lying or something.

I suppose this comes from the fact that when ever I need something, I rarely get it and so, feel why is this any different?

I did research beforehand, to know that I fall into grade two for disablity, as I can function inside, but absolutely not out side on my own. The only thing standing in my way, is that I am from the uk, but have lived in France for over 14 year's now and my husband has worked here ever since we arrived.
 
Suzanne said:
Have a letter from my "wonderful" dr o_O to see a psychiatrist and hope to get an official diagnosis for social anxiety. No point in trying for aspergers, since, here in France, they do not recognise it as authentic.

If I can get an official diagnosis, then I can apply for financial aid and even the chance of someone taking me shopping or sitting in the dr's surgery.

I used to be so ashamed of this; still feel it when have to do things on my own, but less shame talking about it, since a sort of friend said that there is nothing to be ashamed of and for some reason, that truly has helped me to see it as a disability, rather than something thing that I am weak in. Oh, of course I am, but in truth, I do try to push myself; just doesn't work.

If a place is familiar, I am just about ok.
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I don't know anything about France; but a pneuropsychologist is the dr. who finally gave my grandson a diagnosis. So you might try that. Also there is a lot of help for Aspies on www.aspergerexperts.com.
 
AveApollo said:
I'm shocked about it not being recognised. France has the best health care in Europe. Maybe not for Autism specifically then. Do they acknowledge classic Autism at least? Just out of curiosity, I'd like to know.
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Yes, they acknowledge classic autism here and have heard of aspergers, because when I said it to my dr, she showed she knew what I meant, so it was a shock too, when I found out that they refuse to recognise aspergers.
 
Suzanne said:
Yes, they acknowledge classic autism here and have heard of aspergers, because when I said it to my dr, she showed she knew what I meant, so it was a shock too, when I found out that they refuse to recognise aspergers.
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It seems so much better here in the UK. Sure you find individual GP doctors that don't understand it or refuse to acknowledge it personally, but the medical system here certainly officially recognises it and has a support mechanism in place, so you're protected from ignorance to an extent. Italy are starting to do something similar, as I've lived there and seen that they were behind the UK with this, but progressing well in this area (they mainly lack adult mechanisms/support and funding). I hope you get some help and support you require.
 
Suzanne said:
Just to say, that on the 4th of January, I have an appointment with a psychiatrist and in truth, I am already panicking. I know I have social anxiety, but I fear that she will not listen and accuse me of lying or something.

I suppose this comes from the fact that when ever I need something, I rarely get it and so, feel why is this any different?
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I'd guess that more than likely they'll not profoundly diagnose you with anything, but rather just prescribe a pharmaceutical in the hope of relieving your symptoms.

Which ultimately may or may not help somewhat. Though trying to find out which products help you as opposed to hurting you can be a precarious process, as it was for me.

A diagnosis of chronic clinical depression, social anxiety and OCD came later in my case. Where considerations of autism never came up at time when Aspergers Syndrome was only beginning to show up within the medical community of the US.
 
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I'd guess that more than likely they'll not profoundly diagnose you with anything, but rather just prescribe a pharmaceutical in the hope of relieving your symptoms.

Which ultimately may or may not help somewhat. Though trying to find out which products help you as opposed to hurting you can be a precarious process, as it was for me.

A diagnosis of chronic clinical depression, social anxiety and OCD came later in my case. Where considerations of autism never came up at time when Aspergers Syndrome was only beginning to show up within the medical community of the US.
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That is what I fear is going to happen, because it is easier to pile medication onto someone, than take the time to help them.

But, I am sincerely hoping that even if they do do that, I will at least get a diagnosis and well, I do not have anything to fear there, because it is pretty evident that I have chronic social anxiety.
 
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