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Forced to have a smart meter

Aspergers_Aspie

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I received a letter saying that by law I need to have a smart meter, I showed a support worker from an autistic charity who deals with housing and the letter and he confirmed it. But I think having to change to a smart meter may cause some autistic people immense stress.
I have diagnosed depression and sleep problems too and I'm on meds for these. I have experienced traumatic experiences at different times in my life too
 
Smart meter - Wikipedia

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It’s not actually the law, they are using word play to imply that it is. I’ve seen many letters trying to trick and bully people into having one installed.

The Citizens Advice Bureau invites people to contact them if their supplier tells them that they must have one installed:

Getting a smart meter installed
 
Doesn’t your power company, or water, or gas, install the meter themselves? Here in the USA, the service provider installs such devices at no cost to the customer, since smart meters make things easier for suppliers (by eliminating the job of meter readers)
 
. . . I think having to change to a smart meter may cause some autistic people immense stress. . .
Why? How could having a smart meter cause stress?

With a regular meter, the reader has to stand in front of it and read the numbers. With a smart meter, the reader can stand on the sidewalk or park in the street and read the meter from there.

Having a smart meter means fewer people walking through your yard and standing close to your house.
 
We need smart meters now because they're building so many houses that soon there won't be enough supplies to go around (electricity, water, gas). They're turning the small island into a concrete jungle to fit all zillion trillion people in.
 
Here in Australia, there are concerns smart meters could later be used to limit the electricity you could use.

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I've had this sort of metering on my home since 2018, primarily because I have a solar array on my roof and during the daytime my meter runs backwards because I am sending power out to the grid. I get reimbursed for that power (net metering), so they (and I) keep track of all those kWh. Furthermore, I can log onto my electric utility provider's website under my account and receive detailed reports on when I use power, how much, etc. For a modern "smart grid" to work efficiently and at peak performance, now-a-days with the help of A.I., it needs accurate information from each service point.

They don't care about you, per se, but rather, as a utility provider, they need information on the system, as a whole.

New homes in the US (and probably elsewhere) can also install "smart devices" in pre-existing electrical service panels, or install a "smart" service panel that will not only monitor where all your energy is being used on each individual circuit, but can also selectively shut down specific circuits when not in use at certain times of the day. The home owner can manage their home via computer or phone app. This is to manage what are known as "vampire losses" within your home, those devices that use power even when not in use, or will alert you when a home appliance (like a refrigerator) is starting to become less efficient with age and starts sucking more power than it should.
 
I received a letter saying that by law I need to have a smart meter, I showed a support worker from an autistic charity who deals with housing and the letter and he confirmed it. But I think having to change to a smart meter may cause some autistic people immense stress.
I have diagnosed depression and sleep problems too and I'm on meds for these. I have experienced traumatic experiences at different times in my life too
Good advice in the CAB link above.

You can always ask that the "smart" function is disabled and use the meter in the "dumb" mode where you send the utility folk your readings.
 
I've had this sort of metering on my home since 2018, primarily because I have a solar array on my roof and during the daytime my meter runs backwards because I am sending power out to the grid.
Same.

I get reimbursed for that power (net metering), so they (and I) keep track of all those kWh. Furthermore, I can log onto my electric utility provider's website under my account and receive detailed reports on when I use power, how much, etc. For a modern "smart grid" to work efficiently and at peak performance, now-a-days with the help of A.I., it needs accurate information from each service point.
Here in Australia, there is concern that there will be instability of the energy grid, partly due to the degree of roof top solar panel installations causing too much "back feed".
(Australia has one of the highest uptakes of solar-panels in the world.)
There could be a negative consequence in the future to ppl involved, I have heard.

They don't care about you, per se, but rather, as a utility provider, they need information on the system, as a whole.
Yep.

New homes in the US (and probably elsewhere) can also install "smart devices" in pre-existing electrical service panels, or install a "smart" service panel that will not only monitor where all your energy is being used on each individual circuit, but can also selectively shut down specific circuits when not in use at certain times of the day.
Hence, my Big Brother pic above.
It is another concern we are facing.

The home owner can manage their home via computer or phone app. This is to manage what are known as "vampire losses" within your home, those devices that use power even when not in use, or will alert you when a home appliance (like a refrigerator) is starting to become less efficient with age and starts sucking more power than it should.
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Here in Australia, there is concern that there will be instability of the energy grid, partly due to the degree of roof top solar panel installations causing too much "back feed".
(Australia has one of the highest uptakes of solar-panels in the world.)
There could be a negative consequence in the future to ppl involved, I have heard.

Hence, my Big Brother pic above.
It is another concern we are facing.
So, California, about 5-10 years ago, had this concern, as well. We went for about 15 years where the new residential solar installations, across the US, at least the vast majority of them, did not have battery backup. Frankly, unless you were willing to dedicate the space for a huge lead-acid battery system in your home or in an out building, there was no way to use your stored power during grid outages or when the sun went down in the evening. So, yeah, most of that power fed the grid, caused problems with surplus, and the existing power plants had a difficult time with throttling-down the turbines in the day and throttling-up during the evening. Now-a-days, utility companies are installing huge battery installations that store and release that power in an instant. It pretty much eliminates that whole peak and trough effect. The Hornsdale, Australia Power Reserve is one of many examples. Hornsdale Power Reserve - Wikipedia Tesla and other companies are creating huge battery installations all over the world. https://www.tesla.com/megapack

However, since, about 2018, probably a little before, companies around the world began offering lithium-ion storage batteries for residential use. Expensive, yes, but they were of a physical size that took up a lot less space and had the capacity for most home usage at night. It took about 5 years for residential battery installations to become more common, in part, being a result of many utility companies backing away from their net metering programs. They wanted all that power fed to the grid for free and not pay the producers, us. That's basically where we are today. I grandfathered in with my net metering reimbursement, but whomever purchases my home will not. Now-a-days, at least around here, it's sort of expected that if you have a solar array, you have battery storage, because, well, the utility companies can "F" off. Keep your power and don't feed the grid. Use the grid as your backup, not the other way around. I have a 10kWh LG Chem battery, but realistically, I would need somewhere closer to 30-40 kWh of storage with our climate (sunny vs cloudy days).

As far as "New homes in the US (and probably elsewhere) can also install "smart devices" in pre-existing electrical service panels, or install a "smart" service panel that will not only monitor where all your energy is being used on each individual circuit, but can also selectively shut down specific circuits when not in use at certain times of the day." I think it's important the context and perspective. It's the homeowner, not the utility company that has control of the service panel. Sure, if you don't pay your bill and they want to shut off the service, it's at the meter on the side of the home, not the service panel. If you have solar, wind, and battery storage, perhaps an emergency generator that feeds the battery when it gets low, (even an electric vehicle or truck can be a rolling battery backup if you have the correct inverter) and the system has enough capacity, you can simply run "off grid" like you do when there is a grid outage. My next home will be designed and able to run off grid.
 
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I received a letter saying that by law I need to have a smart meter, I showed a support worker from an autistic charity who deals with housing and the letter and he confirmed it. But I think having to change to a smart meter may cause some autistic people immense stress.
I have diagnosed depression and sleep problems too and I'm on meds for these. I have experienced traumatic experiences at different times in my life too

If you are in the UK it is not law. Be careful it is not a scam. Do not give your details, as they got my Mums details as Mum thought it was genuine.
 
It’s not actually the law, they are using word play to imply that it is. I’ve seen many letters trying to trick and bully people into having one installed.

The Citizens Advice Bureau invites people to contact them if their supplier tells them that they must have one installed:

Getting a smart meter installed

It's probably a contract term which can be enforced by law. You buy electricity from the power company and thereby consent to their terms of delivery to you. The smart meters very accurate and less invasive than some stranger meter reader guy walking up to your house and physically reading your meter.
 

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