Does your Aspergers ever get you in trouble?

[Carnelian]

Or, more appropriate, some of the traits that comes with Aspergers like bluntness or literalness or whatever you experience.

I'm very literal and analytical and very impatient with things I perceive as pointless (I also don't hesitate to point them out) and that gets me in trouble a lot.

One time was when I was in high school. I went to a high school for kids with behavioral disorders because my school district didn't know what to do with me since I was super smart but had meltdowns due to overstimulation/etc.

Anyway, when you entered the school, even if you had just run an errand across the street to the other school building and came back, you had to get patted down, wanded, go through a metal detector, and empty all you pockets/jackets, take off your boots/shoes/etc. It was basically like going through an airport security every day.

Anyway, I often ran errands for the teacher because they could trust me more than the other kids and I got annoyed with having to go through the whole process just because I went to deliver a message or something.

So, I finally said to the staffer who had the job of checking in kids coming into the building,

"You know, if I wanted to bring a weapon or contraband into the building. This would be a very inefficient way to do it. First I would have to take six or more months to gain the teacher's trust enough to leave their sight, then regularly go run errands with no issue, leave school at the end of the day, get my object of choice, sneak back onto school premises without getting caught, hide the object in a place on the path where I wouldn't get caught and also have easy, fast access, find a place on my person to hide it, and then risk jail or other punishment just so I could get a crappy high, smoke for maybe five minutes, or poorly attempt to stab a student all of which would not pay off the effort of getting the object into the building in the first place."

I just thought it was obvious. Apparently the fact that I "thought about it so much" was troubling.

Honestly, I'd never really thought about it. It just seemed completely obvious to me and completely stupid to need to ward against that when most kids in the school didn't even make an effort to sign their name on their non-completed classwork.

And that was just one story.

 

[ancusmitis]

I just thought it was obvious. Apparently the fact that I "thought about it so much" was troubling.

Honestly, I'd never really thought about it. It just seemed completely obvious to me and completely stupid to need to ward against that when most kids in the school didn't even make an effort to sign their name on their non-completed classwork.

And that was just one story.

Oh yeah, done that before too. I went to one high school that was the same way and I made some very unfavorable comparisons to certain historical events that upset the security guards--who were actual police officers, by the way, not that those really need to be patrolling a high school. I received an extended delay for entering the lunch room.

 

[Carnelian]

Oh yeah, done that before too. I went to one high school that was the same way and I made some very unfavorable comparisons to certain historical events that upset the security guards--who were actual police officers, by the way, not that those really need to be patrolling a high school. I received an extended delay for entering the lunch room.

We had actual police officers too!

And wow you had a LUNCH ROOM? We ate in the classroom.

 

[ExplosiveTMT]

I have had misunderstandings in primary school over my meltdowns that have led to me being thrown out a few times.
I won't go into details, but I believe I fell into depression after that.
Took quite a few years to fully recover.

 

[Carnelian]

I have had misunderstandings in primary school over my meltdowns that have led to me being thrown out a few times.
I won't go into details, but I believe I fell into depression after that.
Took quite a few years to fully recover.

That is similar to what happened to me. Except it took until middle school for them to throw me out. And then I was in a string of alternative schools.

 

[ancusmitis]

We had actual police officers too!

And wow you had a LUNCH ROOM? We ate in the classroom.

Yes, and we had to show proper identification before entering. Like what am I going to do, buy unauthorized French fries and sell them on the black market? I forgot my id. I was not allowed to go and get it. So I had to stand at the door and watch everyone go into the lunch room. I spent the whole time insulting the cops who were detaining me, and they didn't like that. Well, next time maybe you won't come between me and my food. I was deliberately late to my class after lunch. What was I going to do, not eat? Screw that.

 

[King_Oni]

I refuse to acknowledge trouble (and I'm sure my judgement is fair enough to take responsibility when it's my fault) ... So technically... No

 

[SignOfLazarus]

When I was younger I'd frequently be told I was ignoring instructions or being rude, or basically purposefully being "bad".

My memory tells me this happened all the time. Probably not, but it sure felt like it. The reality is that I often didn't understand the intended meaning of instructions or what someone meant when they made a comment or someone misinterpreted an action or comment made by me.

Awesome.
So, yeah. I got in trouble all the time. Because of things related to autism.

[reality is perception, even if it's not, when you are a kid]

 

[Carnelian]

Yes, and we had to show proper identification before entering. Like what am I going to do, buy unauthorized French fries and sell them on the black market? I forgot my id. I was not allowed to go and get it. So I had to stand at the door and watch everyone go into the lunch room. I spent the whole time insulting the cops who were detaining me, and they didn't like that. Well, next time maybe you won't come between me and my food. I was deliberately late to my class after lunch. What was I going to do, not eat? Screw that.

Dear lord. Hopefully they were good french fries? We got...it looked like cat food. Not trying to one up or anything. That just came to my mind.

What type of school did you go to, specifically?

((Also did you have to sign out art supplies? I was SOOO excited when I got a bucket of ceramics supplies I could KEEP--of course I paid for it--in college. The students/teacher were like "What's the big deal?" and I was like "In my high school we'd have these under lock and key" and they were like "Why?" I was like "Do you know how many ways you could turn these into shivs?" and then explained. Strangely, they really liked me in that class.)

 

[Nisk]

I'm currently separated from my wife because I refused to address certain traits that were counter productive to a happy marriage. Among other reasons.

 

[ancusmitis]

Dear lord. Hopefully they were good french fries? We got...it looked like cat food. Not trying to one up or anything. That just came to my mind.

What type of school did you go to, specifically?

((Also did you have to sign out art supplies? I was SOOO excited when I got a bucket of ceramics supplies I could KEEP--of course I paid for it--in college. The students/teacher were like "What's the big deal?" and I was like "In my high school we'd have these under lock and key" and they were like "Why?" I was like "Do you know how many ways you could turn these into shivs?" and then explained. Strangely, they really liked me in that class.)

I went to two typical high schools, and one alternative school. This was at a typical high school. We'd recently gotten a new superintendant, and she had some...strange ideas. She wanted to save money by closing a bunch of schools. So what happened was we ended up spending more money on building add-ons to the schools that remained open. You see, it turns out that no more than a certain number of students will physically fit into a building of a certain size. The extra security measures were supposedly justified because of gangs, but no gang attacks were ever stopped by them, and when the security measures were lifted, magically no one ended up getting knifed. It was all a ridiculous waste of energy on the part of the district.

 

[Progster]

Not so much now, but when I was younger I had all sorts of problems - I'm very literal and cynical and impatient with things I see as pointless, too, and a lot of things that other people take for granted seem really pointless to me. I always have a very good and analytical explanation as to why I consider them pointless. People do so many things without ever stopping to think about why they are doing them, and when you ask them, they don't know, example:

"Why do women wear high heels in offices?"

"I don't know. It's just what people do."

For me, the answer that it's just what people do is not acceptable as an answer as to why women wear heels. Sometimes people are just like sheep, one unthinkingly following after the other, without knowing where they are going, what they are doing and why.

 

[Slithytoves]

The areas where my Asperger's tends to cause me the most trouble is around my relatively calm and cognitively-focused responses to emotional people and situations, as well as a predisposition to being very direct, saying things nobody else wants to say/admit. I'm also not shy about taboo topics or very personal questions, which can cause a stir sometimes.

My pronounced sense of justice and low fear of social judgment has put me in a lot of situations where I take the lead in group complaints and confrontations. People tend to think of me as a leader for that, though good leadership entails a lot more than willingness to be the tip of any spear. I don't necessarily claim to have all of the other qualities so being shoved/elected to the front (or volunteering myself!) can cause me trouble.

 

[Suzanne]

Oh yes, indeed! Very similar to what you describe but more about health issues. I see that if the problem is easy to solve, I cannot understand why the person I am talking to gets agitated with me and I think: I would almost say you want to be ill! I am blunt in my head, but not out loud.

I also have this constant urge to correct people and if they give the wrong information about me, I interrupt to put them right and it does not go down so well.

My mind is a hub of activity and so, when I explain things, I am pretty long winded.

Yes, I am a very practical person and it actually hurts when I witness unpractical things.

What I see as logical and others just shrug their shoulders, it makes me red hot with anger that they are so stupid they cannot see!!! And when it is said: but it is not logical to me, I am thinking: how the heck can you say that??!!!

It is very difficult to get my head around the fact that others have their own thoughts and sensitives. When my husband says something of how he is feeling, I cannot see that he is for real and so, have to really battle with listening and trying to be empathetic.

If I have a thought about something, I am afraid that I tend to barge into a conversation and to say: oh when you have stopped talking, I just want to say something! I am afraid I feel so high with my thought process, that it seems I have no control with just rushing in and unfortunately for me, it actually makes me seem rather an airhead! Funny because if a guy did the same thing, he would not be seen as one!

I wish I was not an aspie!

 

[Suzanne]

The areas where my Asperger's tends to cause me the most trouble is around my relatively calm and cognitively-focused responses to emotional people and situations, as well as a predisposition to being very direct, saying things nobody else wants to say/admit. I'm also not shy about taboo topics or very personal questions, which can cause a stir sometimes.

My pronounced sense of justice and low fear of social judgment has put me in a lot of situations where I take the lead in group complaints and confron
tations. People tend to think of me as a leader for that, though good leadership entails a lot more than willingness to be the tip of any spear. I don't necessarily claim to have all of the other qualities so being shoved/elected to the front can cause me trouble.

Me too am not shy about taboo topics and can cause quite a lot of intake of breaths lol

 

[Maelstrom]

Or, more appropriate, some of the traits that comes with Aspergers like bluntness or literalness or whatever you experience.

I'm very literal and analytical and very impatient with things I perceive as pointless (I also don't hesitate to point them out) and that gets me in trouble a lot.

One time was when I was in high school. I went to a high school for kids with behavioral disorders because my school district didn't know what to do with me since I was super smart but had meltdowns due to overstimulation/etc.

Anyway, when you entered the school, even if you had just run an errand across the street to the other school building and came back, you had to get patted down, wanded, go through a metal detector, and empty all you pockets/jackets, take off your boots/shoes/etc. It was basically like going through an airport security every day.

Anyway, I often ran errands for the teacher because they could trust me more than the other kids and I got annoyed with having to go through the whole process just because I went to deliver a message or something.

So, I finally said to the staffer who had the job of checking in kids coming into the building,

"You know, if I wanted to bring a weapon or contraband into the building. This would be a very inefficient way to do it. First I would have to take six or more months to gain the teacher's trust enough to leave their sight, then regularly go run errands with no issue, leave school at the end of the day, get my object of choice, sneak back onto school premises without getting caught, hide the object in a place on the path where I wouldn't get caught and also have easy, fast access, find a place on my person to hide it, and then risk jail or other punishment just so I could get a crappy high, smoke for maybe five minutes, or poorly attempt to stab a student all of which would not pay off the effort of getting the object into the building in the first place."

I just thought it was obvious. Apparently the fact that I "thought about it so much" was troubling.

Honestly, I'd never really thought about it. It just seemed completely obvious to me and completely stupid to need to ward against that when most kids in the school didn't even make an effort to sign their name on their non-completed classwork.

And that was just one story.

Hi Carnelian , I hope you are feeling better! Sounds like something I would have said, very logical...and I would have stood there dumbly going "what!", What did I say?" While the NTs screamed, pulled out their hair, and ran around in little circles..

I've lost track of how many stupid auti aspie things have got me in trouble...I don't like to think about it it is depressing. I'm sure I have a few more whoppers headed my way...Bleah!

 

[S0093679]

OH ho ho hahaha yes absolutely!! I was frequently in trouble in all manner of ways, often without meaning to be, or being completely innocent, or not knowing the rules/etiquette or doing something which just looks "fishy"! Id ask a simple question and have accusations of all sorts which I had never even considered. I was super smart too, but lacking any sort of sense and often got into "hot water". People would often treat me suspiciously for the most innocent of comments or behaviours and I still don't understand why. My literalness and straight-to-the-pointness doesn't do me many favours, but at least these days I can laugh at myself (or the other person) and tbh I'm not fussed that they don't understand why Im laughing

 

[The Phantom]

Oh god, I'm face palming just thinking about the crap I get into. And I'm not even HALF as bad as my brother, he actually causes trouble, I'm just a smart@$$ crybaby (I think that might be an oxymoron.) That reminds me of one of those 'Teen posts' you see around on the internet. it goes something like "I'm really sarcastic for someone who's about to start crying most of the time." haha describes me very well.

So, where do I begin?

In 6th grade my one response to feeling anger was to slap my classmates. Yes, really. I'm really living up to my username. I was called a 'man' by my male classmates because I was pretty tomboyish and had a low voice. So anytime they called me something I could either do my gorilla scream of slap them. It happened all second semester. I never got in trouble though, because I was A. Careful B. A girl. Sad truth. That's why I don't purposefully slap people anymore, because if it was reversed the boys would get in serious trouble. But even so they never told on me, and I'm not sure why. Maybe because they were scared c:
I still might break one out when I'm annoyed, but I'm trying to control it. I've only slapped twice in Grade 7, so there's progress. Here's to hoping it's zero this year. I start school in about a week.

I also always have to be right, and will pointlessly fight with someone until I come out on top. I've gotten in regular arguments with a 2nd grader because she was being fresh with me. I know, I know.

Also, like everyone else mentioned, bluntness. Not only that, but just jokes in general. People get offended by my not-offensive jokes. I know an aspergers trait is to not know when you're being offensive, but trust me, I KNOW when some of the jokes I've made weren't offensive. Anyway, I told me over google chat friend to 'Get better problems', and that her dad's company pays for their expensive apartment. Because of a joking complaint she made. She took it WAY to far (imo), because it was clearly in a joking manner (plus she is NT), I even added a 'lol and all that. She in response to the 'get better problems' thing she typed 'Let's see...' and i was expecting her to respond in a joke, but she started to list off all the things that ever happened to her. About both her grandfathers respective health conditions, her mothers illness, the death of her cousin, and even the fact that her aunt had a miscarriage. Look, I feel very sorry for what she's going through, I really do, especially about her cousin but she took it too far. I know a miscarriage is a terrible thing to experience, but it was her AUNT, not her mother, or sister or something. My mother had a miscarriage, but it didn't affect my brother or I. Why should her Aunts miscarriage be a continuing problem for her? I know this is bordering on a rant, but this riled up strong feelings for me. It just felt like she was trying to find every little thing that's considered bad and try to prove a point. I never meant my statement with any malice. What really hurt though, was that she knew my problems too. She knew that my brothers best friend died, and how that hurt me. She was one of the first people I told about my OCD, my aspergers, and my depression. But she instead chose to take a harmless statement and pit it against me. I know it came from a place of sadness, but she's very controlled, and I expected someone as practical as her to not do that to someone who was already going through hard times . What she said really resonated with me, and I'm still hurting. I guess that's my issue, idolizing and putting too much faith into someone who's only human.


Well, that got morbid real fast. So yes, it does get me in trouble a lot hahaha.

 

[Lysander]

My aspie traits have gotten me into a fair amount of trouble. Most cases originate from other's suspicion of me - I speak and behave immaculately, yet also differently, which feels threatening to others for various wooly reasons. Here are some of my adventures:

- Chased with a shovel by my older brother for correctly observing that he was fat. Age 6.

- Interrogated for sexual harassment at age 9.
(I had gone about the school offering unsolicited hugs, thinking people appreciated that sort of thing. Wrong.)

- Accused of "demonic inspiration" at age 12.
(Artsy all of my life, my creations took on a Gothic tone post-puberty)

- Threatened with expulsion after flooding the school kitchen at age 15.
(Other students had warned me that wasn't how to mop, but ever the individualist, I tried my own method)

- Placed in an isolation unit for two weeks after having a meltdown on suicide watch. Age 17.

- Amassed a small cult following; also age 17.
(Apparently my confident materialistic logic weilded over the heads of psyche staff unaccustomed to patients lucid enough to form sentences was very impressive. I contemplated a nonviolent uprising to kill time, but that would have required nonviolent participants)

- Evicted at age 20 for "doing subversive things to get in my landlady's head".
(Like forgetting to put the spoons back)

~ Now age 21, I live a quiet, notably stable life with my boyfriend.

Years since trouble: 1

 

[Nadador]

Perpetually. It's my frequent reminder to remain compassionate and unassuming.