No £2 per day jobs on that link.
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Aspies in the UK Police Force?
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No £2 per day jobs on that link.
Although I clicked the link and looked
around, I didn't find anything telling how
much they pay their clients. Only the salaries
for the staff.
Can you show me the right place to see
what they pay the clients?
You won’t find any £2 per day jobs on the link Rich provided because they don’t exist.
According to this article- Remploy bidders offered wage subsidy
The key sentence is “The average annual pay of Remploy shopfloor workers is £13,800.” This is what Remploy was paying in 2012!
According to this article- Remploy bidders offered wage subsidy
The key sentence is “The average annual pay of Remploy shopfloor workers is £13,800.” This is what Remploy was paying in 2012!
That's bankruptcy which is different, CCJs MAY be considered after they've been discharged, it doesn't mean they will be and I suspect they'd expect you to have paid them off as well as defaults.
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To be fair he's applied for plenty of positions that are suitable including retail and he's not unemployable because he worked as a volunteer for ages in a charity shop and some employers will see this positively as they should, it takes a special person to work without pay. Anyway there's no harm in trying to apply for something with a slim chance too. Many people really do have a terrible attitude because they sit at home on benefits even when they can work and they do as little as possible to try to get one, I have a lot of respect for @Rich Allen for trying so hard, he's even been looking at training courses, also just because he talks openly here with his views, it doesn't mean he does this to potential employers in situations that matter. I believe that a lot of employers do look down at a disability, although they won't dare admit it because of equality laws in the UK, instead they'll officially make up another reason for not employing him. He most definitely deserves some luck to come his way and he's trying so hard I believe he will get one sooner or later.
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Paragraph 4 of Schedule 1 to the Police Regulations 2003 states that a member of a police force shall not wilfully
refuse or neglect to discharge any lawful debt.
All members of the Police Service are in a privileged position with regard to access to information
and could be considered potentially vulnerable to corruption.
Applicants to the Police Service should normally be free from undischarged debt or
liability and able to manage existing loans. The emphasis should be on sensible management of debt.
This policy should sit alongside National Security Vetting and force vetting policies and procedures.
GUIDANCE
Applicants who have existing County Court Judgements outstanding against them should not be
considered.
Applicants who have discharged County Court Judgements should be considered.
I personally have no problem with the Police not considering someone in unmanageable debt, or who has or does refuse or neglect their debts, for consideration as a potential employee, for the reasons given.
Besides, there is no point arguing if it is reasonable or not, they quite clearly say “Check you meet our requirements before submitting an application” The rules are the rules and that’s just the way it is!
I wasn't even born in 1965.
And about 10 years ago I did one of these 2 quid a day jobs at Reclaim, a local recycling plant, stood it for 3 days before I told the manager to kiss my arse, I wasn't working in a mucky, noisy Factory for 25p an hour, stood up all day.
What gets me is that they said it was a disabled specific job! How is being stood up all day sorting Coke cans suitable for disabled clients with back problems?!
And no, I don't have a link to the Reclaim website, I doubt they even have one.
Also, Remploy did used to do less than minimum wage jobs for disabled people when they had their Factories where they made stuff on the cheap. Because of new labour laws and the legally enforced minimum wage, the majority of those Factories are now no longer operating.
They were poorly paid because the majority of the clients were (and probably still are) on benefits and thus couldn't earn much without severe sanctions.
Rich, please understand that your attitude is what is stopping you from using your volunteer work (volunteer jobs DO classify as real “work.”) to get you a paid position. Calling someone an “idiot” who was using sarcastic humor in a thread is exactly a prime example of negativity. Using foul language (“WTF”) all the time is, another example. Being extremely opinionated without having an open mind is also another example (as in many thread posts). You remind me of Eyore in Winnie the Pooh! 
When you telll bosses to kiss your “arse”, or say anything in conflict back at them, you lose a valuable resource as a reference. References are extremely important in moving a person forward in the employment effort.
I do understand that you hate your volunteer work positions. Why do you take them? I will tell you that I cannot work (paid or volunteer) at something I hate. I just can’t. FIND positions (or create them) you WANT. I actually created volunteer position by going to companies and asking if I could volunteer for the work experience, and the resume references. They always said yes. I worked in an emergency room mental health agency for 4 months ( after spending a few years getting the proper education to qualify). That was a few years back, and it recently helped me quite a bit!
There are many fun and interesting positions out there but attitude can ruin your chances to build excellant references, and build good relationships which can take you from a volunteer job to a paid one. Why not volunteer or apply for paid work at a video game or computer store? You seem to know that. Do NOT take crappy jobs that take advantage of you, because you will get fed up and either get fired or quit after telling the boss off?
Negativity, cynicism, foul language all wipe out any good work history in a few moments. Do you have any idea why you cannot use your twenty years of volunteerism to move forward? How many volunteer jobs have you had? I ask because my job while I worked in a prison was to motivate and get jobs for incarcerated men who either had spent their entire teen and adult lives in prison (never held a job), or had to get a job after years in prison. It was mandatory for them all to have a job before they transitioned out of prison into Society. So, I know a thing or two about all this. I know about unemployment, negative attitudes, and how to get people engaged in positive work (paid or volunteering).
I did not work for 12 years while I was a raging alcoholic, homeless, etc. When I got myself cleaned up, I needed to get myself something to do to start me on the road to a job. I got on disability so that I would have life and food security. I chose to volunteer at something I would be passionate about, and love doing every day (life’s turn of events me a negative cynical sorry state who had a ton of people difficulties, and I never had any self confidence).
I chose to work (volunteer) at a nature center. I worked with wildlife like deer, and learned about all sorts of fascinating things like plants, insects, and habitats. I was in heaven, and it absolutely restored me. I did real “work” there - some of it quite physical- as laboring out in the hot sun removing invasive species, or cutting down invasive trees with saws was physical labor. I also spent time as a receptionist and docent. These both took me out out of my comfort zone as I had to deal with the public, and 60,000 school children (usually 2nd, 3rd, and 4th graders- as well as those from the inner city “ghettos”, and severely disabled children) on field trips. I have high sensory disorders, and imagine school bus / room fulls full of loud fidgety school kids! Oh my, did I learn to cope!
Some days I had to walk 2.5 miles each way to get there. Believe me, that in an of itself was no easy task, but it got me in shape and I wound up loving it. I lost weight, and got into shape with the walking and the outdoor physical labor. I volunteered 3 to 4 days a week for several years.
It helped me so much to find something I loved doing, and it got me a seasonal paid position working at a historic prairie owned by a university for the next 2 years! These positions, built. My confidence and my health, and my knowledge. In the mean while I realized just how tough the work work was. I realized I could never go back to my original field in commercial art and illustration because of computers changing the industry so much. So I started taking courses in drug counselor and peer support counseling so that I could help others with mental illness, and substance abuse. I knew about that, and I knew about being disabled, and such. Over time with focused education, and steady work- both volunteer and paid - including university internships, and unpaid volunteerism in mental health environments- I have been able to find full time employment that lasts.
I can also find employment now at big box stores or at any variety of other jobs because I do not let any lapses happen and I keep an open mind, and certainly keep positive references for everything. I built my work history using volunterism and paid over a history of my sober clean time from 2002 to 2018. It’s been a long effort. I never look back and whine about my wasted 11 years, because I cannot change the past, and it did make me who I am now, and it certainly helped me in the field of helping others in addictions and mental health disabilities.
My point being is to follow your passions, and what you are good at, and what you are skilled at. Choose to volunteer at what your interests are in. What are you good at? Can you work at your negative attituttde? Lose the cynicism, or at least keep it buried deep!
Have a focus on what you WANT to do, and work at. Can you work with other disabled people? Disability is something you know, and are passionate about. They have peer specialists in the UK. Why not look into becoming one?
That being said, know that some disabled people just cannot work at a paid position. This does NOT mean they are worthless people. You have NOT “wasted” your life by volunteering! You have worked, and you are important. People have to stop minimizing the power of volunteerism. In America, volunteers are usually highly valued - as valued as paid employees. I wish I had the time to volunteer now, but I have enormous bills to pay, and market rate housing, car, etc. I long for those simpler times when I had low rent, and food stamps. I would love to volunteer at an art museum.
Find a way to enjoy your life, regardless of paid work, or volunteering. Follow your passions and interests.
When you telll bosses to kiss your “arse”, or say anything in conflict back at them, you lose a valuable resource as a reference. References are extremely important in moving a person forward in the employment effort.
I do understand that you hate your volunteer work positions. Why do you take them? I will tell you that I cannot work (paid or volunteer) at something I hate. I just can’t. FIND positions (or create them) you WANT. I actually created volunteer position by going to companies and asking if I could volunteer for the work experience, and the resume references. They always said yes. I worked in an emergency room mental health agency for 4 months ( after spending a few years getting the proper education to qualify). That was a few years back, and it recently helped me quite a bit!
There are many fun and interesting positions out there but attitude can ruin your chances to build excellant references, and build good relationships which can take you from a volunteer job to a paid one. Why not volunteer or apply for paid work at a video game or computer store? You seem to know that. Do NOT take crappy jobs that take advantage of you, because you will get fed up and either get fired or quit after telling the boss off?
Negativity, cynicism, foul language all wipe out any good work history in a few moments. Do you have any idea why you cannot use your twenty years of volunteerism to move forward? How many volunteer jobs have you had? I ask because my job while I worked in a prison was to motivate and get jobs for incarcerated men who either had spent their entire teen and adult lives in prison (never held a job), or had to get a job after years in prison. It was mandatory for them all to have a job before they transitioned out of prison into Society. So, I know a thing or two about all this. I know about unemployment, negative attitudes, and how to get people engaged in positive work (paid or volunteering).
I did not work for 12 years while I was a raging alcoholic, homeless, etc. When I got myself cleaned up, I needed to get myself something to do to start me on the road to a job. I got on disability so that I would have life and food security. I chose to volunteer at something I would be passionate about, and love doing every day (life’s turn of events me a negative cynical sorry state who had a ton of people difficulties, and I never had any self confidence).
I chose to work (volunteer) at a nature center. I worked with wildlife like deer, and learned about all sorts of fascinating things like plants, insects, and habitats. I was in heaven, and it absolutely restored me. I did real “work” there - some of it quite physical- as laboring out in the hot sun removing invasive species, or cutting down invasive trees with saws was physical labor. I also spent time as a receptionist and docent. These both took me out out of my comfort zone as I had to deal with the public, and 60,000 school children (usually 2nd, 3rd, and 4th graders- as well as those from the inner city “ghettos”, and severely disabled children) on field trips. I have high sensory disorders, and imagine school bus / room fulls full of loud fidgety school kids! Oh my, did I learn to cope!
Some days I had to walk 2.5 miles each way to get there. Believe me, that in an of itself was no easy task, but it got me in shape and I wound up loving it. I lost weight, and got into shape with the walking and the outdoor physical labor. I volunteered 3 to 4 days a week for several years.
It helped me so much to find something I loved doing, and it got me a seasonal paid position working at a historic prairie owned by a university for the next 2 years! These positions, built. My confidence and my health, and my knowledge. In the mean while I realized just how tough the work work was. I realized I could never go back to my original field in commercial art and illustration because of computers changing the industry so much. So I started taking courses in drug counselor and peer support counseling so that I could help others with mental illness, and substance abuse. I knew about that, and I knew about being disabled, and such. Over time with focused education, and steady work- both volunteer and paid - including university internships, and unpaid volunteerism in mental health environments- I have been able to find full time employment that lasts.
I can also find employment now at big box stores or at any variety of other jobs because I do not let any lapses happen and I keep an open mind, and certainly keep positive references for everything. I built my work history using volunterism and paid over a history of my sober clean time from 2002 to 2018. It’s been a long effort. I never look back and whine about my wasted 11 years, because I cannot change the past, and it did make me who I am now, and it certainly helped me in the field of helping others in addictions and mental health disabilities.
My point being is to follow your passions, and what you are good at, and what you are skilled at. Choose to volunteer at what your interests are in. What are you good at? Can you work at your negative attituttde? Lose the cynicism, or at least keep it buried deep!
Have a focus on what you WANT to do, and work at. Can you work with other disabled people? Disability is something you know, and are passionate about. They have peer specialists in the UK. Why not look into becoming one?
That being said, know that some disabled people just cannot work at a paid position. This does NOT mean they are worthless people. You have NOT “wasted” your life by volunteering! You have worked, and you are important. People have to stop minimizing the power of volunteerism. In America, volunteers are usually highly valued - as valued as paid employees. I wish I had the time to volunteer now, but I have enormous bills to pay, and market rate housing, car, etc. I long for those simpler times when I had low rent, and food stamps. I would love to volunteer at an art museum.
Find a way to enjoy your life, regardless of paid work, or volunteering. Follow your passions and interests.
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The link title does say £2 a day non jobs for disabled people Google search.
But when I click it, I don't get any results showing me jobs for that wage.
Can you help me?
Can you show me the jobs that pay that low wage?
I can't find them.
There ARE “workshop” jobs for SEVERELY cognitively disabled people that pay that low. They work at putting things together, or sewing for the military, or bagging up parts and pieces. Extremely simple tasks. People that have that level of low functioning are happy to have a job to go to, and simple tasks still make them feel valued and important. It’s all that they can do. They ARE paid under $2.00 an hour, or paid low for each “piecework” they get done. I am talking severely low functioning people here. It’s usally USA we are trying to get rid of them. Rich is not one of those people, so I do not know why he is accepting those kinds of jobs whatsoever!
There is a newer thing called “supportive employment” where disabled people get competive wages in the common work place with everyone else. You work with a certified “supportive employment specialist “ at an agency to get jobs that are in the regular job marketplace and pay excellant wages. In Chicago, one of the agencies that employed disabled people is Sertoma, and they pay $11.50 an hour! You initially start working at 4-5 hours a day 4-5 days a week IF you WANT to (with potential full time if you want someday) and they pick you up at your doorstep and take you to and from the job. It’s not bad at all, and it’s great for autistic people as you work alone and do not deal with people. Many of my former clients signed on to it and LOVE it. There are several places working with agencies throughout Chicago like this.
Currently, I am working at $11.50 an hour breaking my back and dealing with masses of customers part time at Home Depot while I wait to see if I am hired at another mental health agency. I would love to work at a Sertoma instead. I would love not to work at all, and just volunteer at an art museum, or a nature center.
There is a newer thing called “supportive employment” where disabled people get competive wages in the common work place with everyone else. You work with a certified “supportive employment specialist “ at an agency to get jobs that are in the regular job marketplace and pay excellant wages. In Chicago, one of the agencies that employed disabled people is Sertoma, and they pay $11.50 an hour! You initially start working at 4-5 hours a day 4-5 days a week IF you WANT to (with potential full time if you want someday) and they pick you up at your doorstep and take you to and from the job. It’s not bad at all, and it’s great for autistic people as you work alone and do not deal with people. Many of my former clients signed on to it and LOVE it. There are several places working with agencies throughout Chicago like this.
Currently, I am working at $11.50 an hour breaking my back and dealing with masses of customers part time at Home Depot while I wait to see if I am hired at another mental health agency. I would love to work at a Sertoma instead. I would love not to work at all, and just volunteer at an art museum, or a nature center.
This explains (American) job types for disabled people, though does not disclose the wage rates - which in “sheltered workshops” are below $2.00. Although my field of expertise is working with people with mental disabilities, my expertise is not with the severely cognitively challenged.
In my field, we find employment positions that match and pay competitive wages to “normal” society.
Places for Mentally Handicapped People to Work
I will say though that Rich, I checked that in the USA, people working in recycling facilities sorting the recleables from the garbage at a Chicago region based industry such as “ Groot Industries” pays over $15.00 an hour! It’s extremely difficult work, and only the most hearty, determined individuals can last more than a few days. I had thought to try it at one time, just because I am very interested in environmental issues, and recycling. I wanted to try it just for that reason, before I learned how physically uncomfortable it is: with the heat, dirt, and mostly, because I have extreme motion sickness and the moving assembly line would have made me extremely ill.
Rich is claiming that there are jobs in the UK which pay £2 or $2.60 per day, not per hour.
He might be correct as some sheltered workshops only pay pennies for piecework. It’s been many years since I was in a place where they had that sort of job. It was pretty low. Could have been per day.
I think we need to ask Rich why he would accept those types of jobs in the first place. Rich Allen has choices. He should not view himself as a victim.
@Rich Allen
In Post #8 you said :
"SYP kind of know me from when I volunteered for them in a different capacity a few years back."
What capacity was that?
What did you get to do for South Yorkshire Police
as a volunteer?
In Post #8 you said :
"SYP kind of know me from when I volunteered for them in a different capacity a few years back."
What capacity was that?
What did you get to do for South Yorkshire Police
as a volunteer?
@Rich Allen, here are Listings for England with no experience needed:
Physical Disabilities Jobs & Working With The Disabled | Social Care | Guardian Jobs
Specialist support workers is what I do. They want people who are disabled, but you would need to lose your attitude and cynicism. It’s a great way to help others, and it is a rewarding field.
Physical Disabilities Jobs & Working With The Disabled | Social Care | Guardian Jobs
Specialist support workers is what I do. They want people who are disabled, but you would need to lose your attitude and cynicism. It’s a great way to help others, and it is a rewarding field.
Can disabled Americans be paid below the minimum wage?
“Under section 14(c) of the Fair Labor Standards Act (FLSA), employers are able to pay a wage below the federal minimum wage to workers whose work is affected by a mental or physical deficiency. (The ADA does not change this provision.) The reduction in wage corresponds to the reduction in productivity as compared with a worker without a disability. This means that some disabled workers can make significantly less than the minimum wage, in some cases even less than a dollar per hour.
Employers must obtain a certificate from the Wage and Hour Division to set a wage below the federal minimum. According to the U.S. Labor Department, the certificate program has been implemented in the employment of over 420,000 disabled Americans.
This reduced wage, known as the subminimum wage, has been in effect since the 1930s, with several changes over the years. The National Industrial Recovery Act (NIRA) of 1933-1935 set the first productivity-based subminimum wage, which was adopted again with the passing of the FLSA in 1938.”
This article is a real eye opener too!
Disabled workers left in the cold on minimum wage
I want to reiterate though, Rich Allen has a choice to find employment, or volunteer work which will make him happy. He is NOT a pitiful victim of “the system” as he whines about every day.
Rich, today is the first day of the rest of your life. Now go and make something of it. You, as well as the rest of us are dealing with some disabling life challenges. Do NOT let that stop you. People with far greater disabilities are enjoying their lives. You can too.
Disabled workers left in the cold on minimum wage
I want to reiterate though, Rich Allen has a choice to find employment, or volunteer work which will make him happy. He is NOT a pitiful victim of “the system” as he whines about every day.
Rich, today is the first day of the rest of your life. Now go and make something of it. You, as well as the rest of us are dealing with some disabling life challenges. Do NOT let that stop you. People with far greater disabilities are enjoying their lives. You can too.
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