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[toothless]

It's my understanding that he was in fact autistic, yes. But people with autism are rarely violent (and actually, only a very small percentage of people with mental illnesses/conditions are violent). So obviously Fox was just doing its usual fearmongering.

have always been confused by this belief.
violence is quite a big issue for ASD,especialy classic autism,its labeled under challenging behavior and in those of us with severe or profound levels of CB we often end up under a pile of police officers or sectioned in intelectual disability hospitals and on lots of medications as a result,have known hundreds of autistics over the years from being special college educated & living with them and not one of them didnt have violent severe or profound challenging behavior.
however....homicidal violence is different,which is what adam lanza had,this is the violence that has no connection whatsoever with pure autism/ autism without severe mental illness.

 

[Mattymatt]

How do you define violence? I define it as physically hurting or killing other people or animals. I don't think most on the spectrum engage in physical violence. They may be prone to rage but that is quite a bit different.

 

[toothless]

This is interesting.
I didn't know that story. I wish they had a section on the major history of the site and threads that made things the way they are today...

I see all that back and forth about self-diagnosis and the people who keep saying that most people who think they are autistic really aren't and it seems a bit mad. Certainly not helpful to people who are trying to figure it out. But I see how the situation you describe would create that.
Looking at those posts in that context changes things.

dont think alex woud ever archive stuff like that as itd mean more server load?-it cant even handle live posts with all the database errors it gives off .some of WPs history will probably never be mentioned on there ever again,we lost a lot of good members due to one incident over private messages and we had one member go off the rocker after reacting badly to an anti pyschotic/ geodon, and he shot his neighbours then himself,then the parents of the neighbours tried to sue WP and blamed everyone from the members to the mods to alex for not doing something.

 

[toothless]

How do you define violence? I define it as physically hurting or killing other people or animals. I don't think most on the spectrum engage in physical violence. They may be prone to rage but that is quite a bit different.

am probably thinking of it very differently.
violence-as in physicaly attacking someone through frustration,emotional dysregulation,rage,lack of mental capacity, lack of communication,the person getting in the way-the violence in this mannor is more like an indirect side effect, whereas violence carried out by homicidal pyschopaths for example woud be a direct action,its a behavior to gain something or because they were simply fecked off and decided to give them a big middle finger.

 

[Adamantium]

dont think alex woud ever archive stuff like that as itd mean more server load?-it cant even handle live posts with all the database errors it gives off .some of WPs history will probably never be mentioned on there ever again,we lost a lot of good members due to one incident over private messages and we had one member go off the rocker after reacting badly to an anti pyschotic/ geodon, and he shot his neighbours then himself,then the parents of the neighbours tried to sue WP and blamed everyone from the members to the mods to alex for not doing something.

That's a shame.
Alex should move WP to a more robust architecture and that history should be preserved. I think it's important. I know nothing about those events, but I can see that they are casting shadows into the present. Anyway, great that there are alternatives like this place!

 

[FromEquestria2LA]

I am on there; I'm a familiar face there. equestriatola is my handle there.

 

[DarkLady]

So, is this really becoming the new hangout?

 

[Mattymatt]

Hang out, support forum, encouragement, laughter ... you name it. I've found an internet home.

 

[Structrix]

I'm on WP so checking Aspie Central out.

 

[wyverary]

Things sure have changed, because there was a time when you couldn't mention Wrong Planet on this site. It would be censored.

We just try to make sure it's respectful. I myself feel a little uneasy talking about a fellow AS forum, as it seems like idle gossip...but, in the words of the Law and Order judges, I'll allow it.

 

[doordoctor]

dont think alex woud ever archive stuff like that as itd mean more server load?-it cant even handle live posts with all the database errors it gives off .some of WPs history will probably never be mentioned on there ever again,we lost a lot of good members due to one incident over private messages and we had one member go off the rocker after reacting badly to an anti pyschotic/ geodon, and he shot his neighbours then himself,then the parents of the neighbours tried to sue WP and blamed everyone from the members to the mods to alex for not doing something.

I heard of something like this on some forensic Tv show (not the drama rehearsed staged studio made NCIS or Bones) but was one that featured homicide detectives, they mentioned about the man being from France his name was Hans (I think) and he also killed a therapist who prescribed the Geodon too (I don't remember all the details) but I think he was persecuted in France where he most likely will get lesser of a charge then if he was persecuted in USA (death penalty or life without parole would result)

I may be thinking of another case that involved a wrongplanet user, sorry if I am mentioning the wrong person

 

[Kuribo]

We just try to make sure it's respectful. I myself feel a little uneasy talking about a fellow AS forum, as it seems like idle gossip...

I understand why it may seem like that (and I completely agree with you in cases where discussion devolves into social drama) but these forums are the only source of social interaction for many of us, so I've always taken the view that it's good to be open about other forums so that people can judge whether or not they or someone they care about would benefit from visiting them. For example, I wouldn't want someone who'd just found out about Autism to make WP their forum of choice because I have genuine concerns about how the behaviour of certain members could affect the self-esteem of of an impressionable and/or emotionally vulnerable person. It's important that things like this are aired publicly, in my opinion.

 

[Adamantium]

I like the idea of a positive place, but isn't it people who produce the things that are described as faults of WP, rather than something structural. I don't think Alex is going around recruiting negative people to join up, nor is negativity somehow generated by the software.

The thing that gets me is the amount of time that goes into suggesting that lots of other posters aren't really autistic.

It reminds me of the people in my town in New Jersey who are always agitated about the possibility of undeserving children from other towns sneaking in to get a better education in our system than they would in theirs... Or the people who try to impose restrictions on who can vote because of a worry about fraudulent voters. There is no evidence to support that either of these things are a significant problem, but some people focus in on this and spend all their time worrying about it and agitating for more rigorous controls to fix this non-problem.

They think that people think autism is cool.
<sarcasm>It's so awesome not being able to make or keep friendships, and being the odd one out all the time. Not knowing quite what to say. Having people wonder why you are so awkward. Way cool.</sarcasm>
I really like the idea of a more positive place, but I do recognize that it's people who create that negativity. What is to stop the same from happening here?

 

[Ereth]

What is to stop the same from happening here?

Absolutely nothing. I've had a few negative experiences here, in fact, but they haven't scared me off.

 

[Kuribo]

I like the idea of a positive place, but isn't it people who produce the things that are described as faults of WP, rather than something structural. I don't think Alex is going around recruiting negative people to join up, nor is negativity somehow generated by the software.

I don't know if this was directed at me, but I didn't suggest any of those things.

I recognise that a lot of Autistic people feel negatively about who they are and as much as I disagree with them, I fully support their right to express their feelings and opinions. My main problem is that people can't seem to help forcing these negative opinions on everyone else, and making the unreasonable expectation that people justify why they do not feel negatively about their Autism.

I really like the idea of a more positive place, but I do recognize that it's people who create that negativity. What is to stop the same from happening here?

Firstly, the fact that discussions relating to "cures" and whatnot are generally restricted to the Serious Discussion forum helps to cut down on the problem I described. I also have faith in the moderation team's ability to ensure that this place remains positive and friendly, or at least free of behaviors which are incontrovertibly harmful to vulnerable and/or impressionable people who come here for guidance.

 

[Adamantium]

I don't know if this was directed at me, but I didn't suggest any of those things.

I recognise that a lot of Autistic people feel negatively about who they are and as much as I disagree with them, I fully support their right to express their feelings and opinions. My main problem is that people can't seem to help forcing these negative opinions on everyone else, and making the unreasonable expectation that people justify why they do not feel negatively about their Autism.



Firstly, the fact that discussions relating to "cures" and whatnot are generally restricted to the Serious Discussion forum helps to cut down on the problem I described. I also have faith in the moderation team's ability to ensure that this place remains positive and friendly, or at least free of behaviors which are incontrovertibly harmful to vulnerable and/or impressionable people who come here for guidance.

Hi Kuribo! No this was not directed at you at all. Just thinking about the situation. I am glad there are some mechanisms that will mitigate that kind of negativity here.

 

[zurb]

I recognise that a lot of Autistic people feel negatively about who they are and as much as I disagree with them, I fully support their right to express their feelings and opinions.

I see it as a process. It's quite natural to feel negative about it at first as the problems are foremost in our minds. But over time, we should move onto acceptance and even embracing it. At least that's what I hope. I'm not there yet.

 

[Mattymatt]

When my diagnosis came through, I felt sorry for myself despite it not being a surprise. I had my suspicions for the better part of 10 years.

I still feel a bit forlorn in the late evenings and early mornings but I'm more committed to learning and working within my parameters. I'm hoping one day to be able to help other adults.

 

[Adamantium]

King_Oni – Mighty Mechanism to Mitigate Mean Malcontents.

Ahhh! An artfully alliterative articulation alerting all to an arbiter of and antagonist against awful attacks on this assemblage.

 

[AspieOtaku]

I like the idea of a positive place, but isn't it people who produce the things that are described as faults of WP, rather than something structural. I don't think Alex is going around recruiting negative people to join up, nor is negativity somehow generated by the software.

The thing that gets me is the amount of time that goes into suggesting that lots of other posters aren't really autistic.

It reminds me of the people in my town in New Jersey who are always agitated about the possibility of undeserving children from other towns sneaking in to get a better education in our system than they would in theirs... Or the people who try to impose restrictions on who can vote because of a worry about fraudulent voters. There is no evidence to support that either of these things are a significant problem, but some people focus in on this and spend all their time worrying about it and agitating for more rigorous controls to fix this non-problem.

They think that people think autism is cool.
<sarcasm>It's so awesome not being able to make or keep friendships, and being the odd one out all the time. Not knowing quite what to say. Having people wonder why you are so awkward. Way cool.</sarcasm>
I really like the idea of a more positive place, but I do recognize that it's people who create that negativity. What is to stop the same from happening here?

Well im here now thanks for tha ban btw but I know you werent the one that perma ban me though, Xfiles did even though I apologized and tried to make a truce with Deltaville regardless of the personal attacks and bullying me, yeah I lost my cool and started trolling, but he baiting me and you guys did nothing when I reported the personal attacks so had to take matters in my own hands and you guys ban me instead.But aside from that I am happier here, I have calmed down more here, Wrong Planet has caused more harm than good since the change of moderators and such I have gotten very depressed from it. If Skillpaddle wants to know about my Officer Jenny shes up and running again! I am happy now and my confidance has been restored! I just miss the good mods like Corn flake and Tallyman they understood and I was worse then and they did not ban me.As for the contact forum admin to defend myself the emails dont work and are broken same with trying to contact Alex! The site is useless now and does not help and you cannot express yourself either let alone stick up for yourself and have to walk on eggshells all the time.