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Under Lock and Key

xudo

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I thought this may be of interest to many people here. There is a program on in the UK on Wednesday 1st March (Channel 4) called Under Lock and Key. It's about young people with autism and learning disabilities living locked up in hospitals, and how they should be being cared for.

This is a link to the Channel 4 page about it: Under Lock and Key - All 4

For those of you outside the UK, I'm sure it will be possible to watch somewhere if you wanted to after it's aired.

EDIT: Thanks to @AGXStarseed for pointing out I put 29th Feb, and it's not a leap year :sweatsmile:
 
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I thought this may be of interest to many people here. There is a program on in the UK on Wednesday 29th February (Channel 4) called Under Lock and Key. It's about young people with autism and learning disabilities living locked up in hospitals, and how they should be being cared for.

This is a link to the Channel 4 page about it: Under Lock and Key - All 4

For those of you outside the UK, I'm sure it will be possible to watch somewhere if you wanted to after it's aired.

Thanks for the heads up, although it's Wednesday 1st March - it's not a leap year this year.
 
they should have interviewed me,ive been locked up in two institutions for people with learning [intellectual] disability and extreme challenging behavior, they were hell on earth-ive suffered permenent damage to my spinal nerves in two areas and require a rollator to walk-from rough restraint from the clinical support staff and attacks from fellow service users,plus i was sexually abused twice by fellow service users.

the staff dont understand you and dont have any empathy/sympathy for your situation if you have mild or moderate learning disability,they think you are making up all the behaviors and they say things like 'you dont have any problems to deal with-your lucky and you need to stop your behavior,you could be like linda *pointing to a profoundly learning disabled service user* poor linda she cant help anything she does *sympathy mode*'.

the food they feed you is terrible over heated up NHS food,and for people like me who was severe classic autistic and had very acute sensory issues they dont offer you a diet for your special dietry requirements but they do if you have severe learning disability as well.

they make everyone get out of bed at a certain time,and go to bed at the same time [it was 10 or 11pm when i was there],you werent allowed out of your bedroom,but i got friendly with one of the staff,and started mopping the floor for her so she let me stay out cleaning the huge public areas.

the beds were all built into the walls and had no edges so you couldnt pull them apart and smash them,plus the duvets/quilts were plastic and made my sensory issues flair up terribly i had to have my blankets brought in to put under them,but some staff complained that it was against the rules.

i was made to go to the toilet at certain times because of my toileting problems/incontinence,but the worst thing was the staff came and stood right next to me while i was using it,i could never go so i avoided eating most of the time.
occasionally we were taken out of the hospital in the hospital vans to go to the local sainsburys,id buy snacks that were really fatty and i put on weight in no time.

everyones washing was mixed together so you ended up with other peoples clothes,and i ended up with some other guys clothes.
the TV was in a special 'tough furniture' cabinet so no one could break it and the remote was hidden and the channel left on something the staff wanted it on,usually 'dave' which had back to back repeats of top gear all day, fine if you like that sort of thing but not for those of us who dont,we werent allowed tvs in our room.
the computer room was useless,the internet never worked and you had to wait 6 weeks for a useless IT staff to come and fix it,i had gone from someone who was on the computer all day and night to someone who had no stimulation,they dont care about giving you mental stimulation,this is why people with learning disability NEED to be kept in supported living environments-even if adapted to be secure they need to be stimulated and given a real life like everyone else not given one where you rot away in an institution.
 
Yes. What Toothless said. Being bored and terrified of the others in care, then stuck with staff who have no sympathy and blame you for behaviors you cannot control, is a horror. Compliance to those who have no sympathy and very little patience, with no understanding of when you will ever leave this situation, is very difficult. Restraint (as in being tied up in 6 point restraints) exacerbates meltdowns... seems to drag them out on and on. Being group-tackled by staff during meltdowns was.... memorable. Lots of injections and restraints. Lights were too bright, sensory hell. Having no privacy as staff stands next to you when you use the toilet is beyond difficult. It seems to make you go more often, Likely from the anxiety of the situation. Being attacked by roommates is scary, and not being believed is hard. Books seem a safe haven then.

I think being inpatient with autism is extremely challenging.
 
@toothless and @Warmheart, what you've both been through sounds terrible and I can't even begin to imagine the effect it's had on you.

From what I've seen on the advert for this program, the people they are following do get moved into supported living/care homes that are designed for people with autism and/or learning disabilities, and it shows the difference that this has on their lives.
 
they should have interviewed me,ive been locked up in two institutions for people with learning [intellectual] disability and extreme challenging behavior, they were hell on earth-ive suffered permenent damage to my spinal nerves in two areas and require a rollator to walk-from rough restraint from the clinical support staff and attacks from fellow service users,plus i was sexually abused twice by fellow service users.

the staff dont understand you and dont have any empathy/sympathy for your situation if you have mild or moderate learning disability,they think you are making up all the behaviors and they say things like 'you dont have any problems to deal with-your lucky and you need to stop your behavior,you could be like linda *pointing to a profoundly learning disabled service user* poor linda she cant help anything she does *sympathy mode*'.

the food they feed you is terrible over heated up NHS food,and for people like me who was severe classic autistic and had very acute sensory issues they dont offer you a diet for your special dietry requirements but they do if you have severe learning disability as well.

they make everyone get out of bed at a certain time,and go to bed at the same time [it was 10 or 11pm when i was there],you werent allowed out of your bedroom,but i got friendly with one of the staff,and started mopping the floor for her so she let me stay out cleaning the huge public areas.

the beds were all built into the walls and had no edges so you couldnt pull them apart and smash them,plus the duvets/quilts were plastic and made my sensory issues flair up terribly i had to have my blankets brought in to put under them,but some staff complained that it was against the rules.

i was made to go to the toilet at certain times because of my toileting problems/incontinence,but the worst thing was the staff came and stood right next to me while i was using it,i could never go so i avoided eating most of the time.
occasionally we were taken out of the hospital in the hospital vans to go to the local sainsburys,id buy snacks that were really fatty and i put on weight in no time.

everyones washing was mixed together so you ended up with other peoples clothes,and i ended up with some other guys clothes.
the TV was in a special 'tough furniture' cabinet so no one could break it and the remote was hidden and the channel left on something the staff wanted it on,usually 'dave' which had back to back repeats of top gear all day, fine if you like that sort of thing but not for those of us who dont,we werent allowed tvs in our room.
the computer room was useless,the internet never worked and you had to wait 6 weeks for a useless IT staff to come and fix it,i had gone from someone who was on the computer all day and night to someone who had no stimulation,they dont care about giving you mental stimulation,this is why people with learning disability NEED to be kept in supported living environments-even if adapted to be secure they need to be stimulated and given a real life like everyone else not given one where you rot away in an institution.

OMGosh, tooth, that is horrific. I have been in those places, but never long, but it was awful. My friend was in a long time once and man died under his bed. The staff propped the guy up in a chair and pretended to feed him so as not to freak out the patients. But the patients KNEW the man was dead and were thinking HOW WHACK IS THE STAFF?!!! He was also abused by staff even when in need. What kind of "people" do that???? Why are THEY not the suicidal crazy ones????? I don't understand.
 
Don't want to watch it, I worked in one when I was sixteen. My Mom forced me take a job in a sanitarium when she couldn't control my outbursts and acting out, she often threatened me with the sanitarium. She thought it would frighten me enough to act the way she wanted me to, that is take the secretarial courses offered locally and marry someone who was quite a bit older than I was, from a 'good' family. Her idea of how my life would be.

Most of the residents who had lived there since infancy couldn't write or read or speak. They had never been taught anything. Local Doctors sent infants to the home, if they didn't meet certain developmental milestones. The babies were housed in a separate area with a home-like environment, with two adult carers in each one. I used to be there when infants were brought in, and would cry so much that all the babies cried too. So they wouldn't let me work there. I worked in the wards.

My job was to feed patients who couldn't feed themselves, many of whom were tied to chairs or beds, because they banged their heads given the chance or hurt themselves, many wore football helmets. After they were fed, I untied them and brought them to large bathrooms, where many people were doing the same thing. I also helped them to clean themselves up, or washed them if they couldn't. On my watch they often escaped, and ran around quite a bit. I had absolutely no training of any kind. Sometimes I ran around with them, and we played together.

I liked it there, but I wasn't a patient and I'm sure their experiences were entirely different. We played games, ran about, ate, cleaned up and many watched television all day. Some had farm jobs, and went out during the week to work. Others I took for walks, some played games, others did nothing. They simply sat there. When I think of the waste of their lives and their potential it makes me ill. They were institutionalized for life, many from infancy.
 
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@toothless and @Warmheart, what you've both been through sounds terrible and I can't even begin to imagine the effect it's had on you.

From what I've seen on the advert for this program, the people they are following do get moved into supported living/care homes that are designed for people with autism and/or learning disabilities, and it shows the difference that this has on their lives.
thankyou for exlaining it xudo,i shall definitely be watching it,and if for some reason i forgot it i will get it on catch up.

i have PTSD from the mental and physical damage caused by the old manchester institution [it is now owned by creative support-the company who support me now], and it is used purely for respite for adults with learning disability, i went in the facility about two years ago to have a nosy and wow its changed,its no longer clinical like a hospital, they have H track hoists in all the rooms if i remember correctly which makes it more accessible for people like my uncle who have PMLD or other comorbid disabilities which have inability to move/walk.
they have a games room though i cant remember whats in it-there were plans to turn it into a sensory room with fundraising,i dont know how that got on.

i am very bitter towards a lot of the staff from both the institution and the NHS LD hospital because of the way they treated me,eg one staff at greenways told me 'your never getting out',whenever i requested a PRN or a staff noticed i needed a PRN [it was 1x5mg diazepam tablets,up to 3 times daily i think] it would take over an hour to recieve it because they said the guy with profound autism and profound learning disability needed more attention, to need a PRN i would be showing severe or extreme challenging behavior [caused by extreme anxiety and pyschosis] so they basically thought because of my label of mild learning disability; i dont have any need for medical support.

learning disability hospitals are very different to pyschiatric hospitals,in regular locked pysch wards people are not as challenging as those in learning disability hospitals,those of us in LD hospitals have been sectioned under the mental capacity act for having such extreme behavior and you hear the staff panic alarm going off constantly because there is ALWAYS someone kicking off.

i spent a bit of time in a very secure pysch unit before being found a place in greenways [most of us who are sent to a learning disability hospital have been permenently kicked out of our homes because of extreme challenging behavior so we end up taking our belongings with us,which requires an extra room each, so it uses all the rooms up].
in the pysch ward i was badly bullied by a lady with a severe personality disorder but a lovely lady sort of adopted me and looked after me,the staff had no idea how to look after me so they kept me in my room most of the time-i have complex classic autism, learning disability,unstable tonic clonic and sometimes status epilepsy-my epilepsy also caused a neurological disorder called todds paralysis which left me fully paralysed from the waist down for up to 24 hours after a seizure-but i was having seizures everyday so i was effectively paralysed 24/7 for a while, i was pacing up and down in my wheelchair because i was unable to get out and told to go back in the bedroom because the wheelchair was annoying the girl with severe personality disorder.
luckily i wasnt there for long when the call came through that a place had been found in greenways and i was been dragged there [miles and miles away] in a awful converted type transit van which was challenging behavior proofed, i was hand cuffed and leg cuffed and had one staff on both sides of me-holding my arms down and then another; driving.
i never got to communicate good bye to the lady who looked after me there-i really hope her mental health has gotten better.

another thing at greenways,its supposed to be very secure, but there was one other service user there who annoyed me incredibly-he was classic autistic but highly verbal and would have constant conversations with staff,he also loved it when the attention was on him so what he did really frustrated me and im sure it would for you guys-being autistic to,he would set the industrial strength fire alarms off and run around laughing while i would fall to the floor smashing my head off it and then end up having an epileptic seizure,i lived in hell thinking any moment the alarm was going to go off.
there was one time he set the alarms off around 10pm at night and i had watched him doing it and quickly put in my ear plugs and my ear defenders over the top,i then had the physical capacity to walk/stagger and i noticed that every time the alarms go off all the secure doors open,the staff were all stood around the main ward door and i thought 'i know this door is open' and i fought my way through it to get away from that hellish noise, the staff said to me, 'im not going to fight you,go if you want we dont care' so i thought to myself 'f- you' and i had ran through the reception and then out in my NFL jersey and my nappy [no trousers on] and bare feet.
it was pitch black and pissing it down with rain,i ran through the huge car park,through the gates that security had left open for some reason,down the hill to the outside world,i ran and ran and didnt know where i was going or what i was doing.
there was a hill and a row of houses on top,i went up it and sat inside someones hedge.i must have been there for hours when i saw police with sniffer dogs and one of the clinical support staff come up to the front of the hedge telling me not to move or the dogs will bite me.
i tried to pet the dog,they shouted at me,and then i tried to hold onto the police,and they shouted at me talking to me like i had some passable disease 'im not holding you,hold your staff' they all walked me back with jo; the staff holding me and the staff team shouted at me, i typed on my communicator that the noise was hell for me and they also told me to go,they ignored me and made me out to be a burden on all the service users.
i had a massive meltdown,cue rough restraint-being sat upon having every part of my body forced down,being picked off the floor roughly,having my head held down because i was biting staff,being thrown into the secure padded cell which stunk of poo because they let the profoundly autistic & learning disabled girl stay there all the time because she likes it-and she is a constant poo smearer, when i need the padded room because of safety from my behavior they tell me im a massive burden on the staff and the girl as they have to move her back to her bedroom.

oh yes,another one-the hospital denied that i had pyschosis and i was making it up,the residential home i had lived in said people with severe autism cannot have mental illnesses and denied my severe clinical depression and the resulting paranoid pyschosis [possibly schizophrenia,i was never assessed for it beyond the PANSS scale by an assistant shrink and then secretly diagnosed with generic personality disorder because they thought i had to much awareness,it stuck in my records and gave medical and non medical professionals everywhere the opinion i was putting on my pyschosis], i had been groomed and severely bullied online by a person with personality disorders on autism and disability forums-he used my experiences of autism to mimick himself so that i would relate to him/her and then he started the bullying,i was non verbal and unable to report it-i had no idea what to do,i was very frightened about reporting it to mods.

i was so severely depressed and untreated for such a long time that i developed pyschosis and one year,it had been world mental health day, i was practically comatose in bed,staring at the ceiling begging god to make me die and as luck may have it my sister [who worked in mental health at the time] was just down the road doing a display on addiction at a local world mental health day presentation,she visited me when it was quiet and couldnt believe the state she saw me in,the managers all ignored her when she asked, why the hell havent you took her to the doctors? she quickly got me an emergency appointment with my GP,my sister physically helped me out of bed and sorted all the personal care out while the managers all stared on,an hour or so later my sister drove me to the GP and she said because i had had such severe depression left alone for so long i had developed pyschosis,she prescribed cymbalta which was a life saver in terms of the depression,she also wanted me hospitalized but i fought it and my sister said she lives in residential care so she didnt get me sectioned, and my sister kicked off a stink at the residential home about my mental health and to make sure they got my shrink involved to sort the pyschosis out.
then later it came out about the bullying and one of the caring staff there wanted to take me to the police.
this breakdown in my mental health is what caused my challenging behavior to go totally extreme and end up in greenways,i had 2-1 support but despite that i was attacking everyone and trashing my room,i destroyed a triple glazed bedroom window with my head.
my pyschiatrist thinks my pyschosis is not real pyschosis and is just behaviors/thoughts that happen when i get very bad anxiety.
i think that is bull crap and i think i have suffered from complex paranoid pyschosis or paranoid schizophrenia,i still suffer from it today.

so you see i am rather damaged from my experience with awful non empathetic/sympathetic humans during my most vulnerable time and i would never, ever recommend living in one of these learning disability hospitals.
 
OMGosh, tooth, that is horrific. I have been in those places, but never long, but it was awful. My friend was in a long time once and man died under his bed. The staff propped the guy up in a chair and pretended to feed him so as not to freak out the patients. But the patients KNEW the man was dead and were thinking HOW WHACK IS THE STAFF?!!! He was also abused by staff even when in need. What kind of "people" do that???? Why are THEY not the suicidal crazy ones????? I don't understand.
awful staff! that is disgusting,why did the man die, was it neglect from the staff?
 
awful staff! that is disgusting,why did the man die, was it neglect from the staff?

It must have been. My friend said he was seizuring on the floor for a long time and the patients were trying to help, but they were all drugged out.

He finally ended up under my friend's bed and died there.

Then the staff acted like he was still alive and literally acted like they were feeding him. The patients were horrified.

The staff was clearly in CYA mode, acting like the man was not neglected but was being fed when died.

My friend who saw that was also neglected and spiralled down. Years later, he was asking for help and getting kicked out of hospitals. He was in 53 times in about 2 years.

On the day of his last discharge, he told staff he was going home to kill himself and they patted on the shoulder and said, "We hope not!"

He had to walk home in the rain and dug up a dirty old shotgun and shot himself in the chest.

He had some kind of schizophrenia or bipolar, something organic and they just left him to die.

He was my best friend and a very deep, profound, dear person who loved everyone. He even invited homeless people to stay with him. He had the heart of a saint and they killed him.

America's mental health system is barbaric. They drugged him and forsook him and he was so much better than they could ever hope to be.
 

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