me and the police

[Oz67]

Some people fear that I could have been killed by police talking to me. Don't worry, it is not that bad.

It's just some people say never call this police, just because they think that is common for people with Bipolar and Related Disorders to be killed by police, but I have much better social skills, as a backup to protect myself against deadly force and teach untrained police officers of how to communicate appropriately to people like me, with history of my mental health crisis.

I can even do a poker face and then explain why I am having a mental health crisis related to Bipolar Disorder, but without showing emotions, because it can scare the police officer. And I also mask my symptoms of abnormal and intense restricted interests and repetitive behaviors, so the police officer would not think that I am suspicious.

When the police officer was talking too loud without meaning to, I calmly explained that I have sensory overload because of him talking too loud, so he apologized and tried his best to talk quietly. Sometimes he talked too loud, but he reminded himself to be more quiet. I was not even killed for showing some symptoms of Autism Spectrum Disorder and Bipolar 1 Disorder, all I need to do is use my social skills as a tool to communicate appropriately and do what the police tell you what to do, and you just follow their instructions. That is why my interaction with the police is actually not that bad.

 

[Aspychata]

The police have been trained well. More sensitivity training seems to be happening. It kind of depends. It's great to hear that the police person directed you to appropriate help.

 

[Oz67]

I like to deal with the police, because learning psychology is part of my restricted interest. I sometimes study them as if I am a psychologist and learn what to do and not to do when talking to police officers.

 

[Oz67]

The police have been trained well. More sensitivity training seems to be happening. It kind of depends. It's great to hear that the police person directed you to appropriate help.

Thank you!

 

[Oz67]

It's just I have Autism Spectrum Disorder and I get confused when some people say that police won't kill me just because I am mentally ill and others say that I should not call the police, just because they say that a lot of people with Bipolar and Related Disorders get killed by police, and some of them say never admit anything to the police, but deep inside I am having pathological and psychological highs and lows, and just don't feel well. (He said, she said situation).

The problem is that every time I call 911 when struggling with mental health crisis, the police comes, not the ambulance.

Those people are such scared like cats cats, to be honest with you.
I don't think ASD Level of support is accurate to me, because now my symptoms of ASD looks like ASD level 2 and now 3, because I have serious mental health crisis related to Bipolar Disorder, but to a milder degree.
I also learned another social skills to deal with police that are not trained to handle people with serious mental health crisis, as a back up, so it wont go down to hot water caused by so much confusion.


This is what I do:

That is because I don't want to scare the police officer if I showed abnormal and intense repetitive behaviors and obvious mood changes related to Bipolar Disorder.
This is what I did, I mask all of those behaviors and do poker face, and seep out all the symptoms of Bipolar Disorder I suffer from by making lists clinical symptoms I meet the related diagnostic criteria for Bipolar Disorder.

At first the police officer kept speaking too loud without meaning to, and I seeped out sensory issues I had and told him to talk more quietly, he did and tried his best to talk more quietly, and sometimes he talks too loud, but I don't mind it, because he reminded himself to speak more quietly. it went very well.

I wanted to explain why my interaction with the police is actually not that bad actually. I just need to use my social skills appropriately and do what the officer says for my safety and theirs.

And after all of the same explanation that my social skills are good when interacting with police officers, they still scare me into not calling 911 ever, and it sounds really stupid, and whom am I supposed to call when I have serious mental health crisis? Those people are confusing me to the core.

 

[Judge]

In the USA, mental health remains stigmatized on a broad basis. Where the authorities are more likely to send the police than anyone else. Especially given the pandemic, and our health insurance crisis. In either case making it doubtful for medical professionals to be at your beckoned call unless you seek them under less dire circumstances.

Assuming of course you are both insured, and can cover the expenses you are contractually obligated to pay for. Easier said than done, I might add. IMO this country is no place to be seriously ill physically or mentally !

Having the police intervene is a terrible gamble IMO. Where more likely than not the responding officers probably have little to no experience in such matters from a social or medical perspective. Personally I'm grateful to live in a city where the police at least have some degree of training in this area. But that is still more the exception than the rule and not every such intervention has had a favorable outcome.

One other thing. The title of your thread. Sadly IMO this is a very real possibility. Where after one too many calls, medical professionals and/or the authorities grow tired of hearing or seeing the same person frequently where they resources are already stretched. As my mother's caregiver some 15 years ago, I knew she was in trouble with her (major) HMO when I could overhear emergency room personnel roll their eyes and say, "There's Mrs. _____ again." Where they dump people into pain management programs and basically abandon their compassion towards them. Both personally and professionally.

It's up to you as to whether you dial 911 or not. Just be aware of the potential long term consequences if you do so on a regular basis. Perhaps that's what people were alluding to without being so blunt.

 

[Gerald Wilgus]

As somebody charged with misdemeanor assault on a TSA agent for reciting the fourth amendment (which security tapes show no assault), I have a low regard for police who act like an occupying army.

 

[tree]

It's just I have Autism Spectrum Disorder and I get confused when some people say that police won't kill me just because I am mentally ill and others say that I should not call the police, just because they say that a lot of people with Bipolar and Related Disorders get killed by police, and some of them say never admit anything to the police, but deep inside I am having pathological and psychological highs and lows, and just don't feel well. (He said, she said situation).

The problem is that every time I call 911 when struggling with mental health crisis, the police comes, not the ambulance.

Those people are such scared like cats cats, to be honest with you.
I don't think ASD Level of support is accurate to me, because now my symptoms of ASD looks like ASD level 2 and now 3, because I have serious mental health crisis related to Bipolar Disorder, but to a milder degree.
I also learned another social skills to deal with police that are not trained to handle people with serious mental health crisis, as a back up, so it wont go down to hot water caused by so much confusion.


This is what I do:

That is because I don't want to scare the police officer if I showed abnormal and intense repetitive behaviors and obvious mood changes related to Bipolar Disorder.
This is what I did, I mask all of those behaviors and do poker face, and seep out all the symptoms of Bipolar Disorder I suffer from by making lists clinical symptoms I meet the related diagnostic criteria for Bipolar Disorder.

At first the police officer kept speaking too loud without meaning to, and I seeped out sensory issues I had and told him to talk more quietly, he did and tried his best to talk more quietly, and sometimes he talks too loud, but I don't mind it, because he reminded himself to speak more quietly. it went very well.

I wanted to explain why my interaction with the police is actually not that bad actually. I just need to use my social skills appropriately and do what the officer says for my safety and theirs.

And after all of the same explanation that my social skills are good when interacting with police officers, they still scare me into not calling 911 ever, and it sounds really stupid, and whom am I supposed to call when I have serious mental health crisis? Those people are confusing me to the core.

Maybe you are not being clear about what sort of assistance you're requesting?

The main number may be an umbrella sort of connection, but
if you say that you want an ambulance, or mental health assistance,
the person answering should direct your call toward that.

 

[SpiltPaint]

I don't understand all the police threads?

 

[Aspychata]

The OP is airing out his concerns and is just trying to understand. Sometimes we don't quite understand systems which usually are very rigid to handle multiples of situations.

 

[SpiltPaint]

The OP is airing out his concerns and is just trying to understand. Sometimes we don't quite understand systems which usually are very rigid to handle multiples of situations.

I understand, I wasn't trying to dispute that. I just figured it would be easier to keep same post topics in the same thread is all, easier to keep track of.

 

[Aspychata]

I understand, I wasn't trying to dispute that. I just figured it would be easier to keep same post topics in the same thread is all, easier to keep track of.

Sometimes we don't acknowledge all of our feelings at once. They can pop up and then we feel stuck with them.

 

[Oz67]

I understand, I wasn't trying to dispute that. I just figured it would be easier to keep same post topics in the same thread is all, easier to keep track of.

That is because I am showing the police officers how very good I am at masking my symptoms of Autism Spectrum Disorder and Bipolar 1 Disorder. That is why I make different threads, just so the police does not come to my house for the last time now to check up on me right away, because it is embarrassing!

 

[Aspychata]

Nobody is perfect. Don't get upset. They probably think you are doing much better.

 

[Oz67]

Nobody is perfect. Don't get upset. They probably think you are doing much better.

That makes sense.