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social problem. need to pull my finger out help please.

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Last Fortress

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Hey,

Any time now for the past 5 years when I go out in public I just can't be normal. And I feel like the whole world is falling down or something like that.

But why?

->>> How can I stop this?.

What can I do to stop this?. Really, I can't live like this any more.

Question:
- Do I need to just get out more?
- Do I need to try out some MDMA/Psychedelic therapy? (By taking MDMA or Psychedelics by myself in a safe setting)
- Do I need more exercise?

What is it?. Why, please does anyone know what I can do to feel normal/fine again like I use to be out in public?.

thank you.
 
If you mean like a panic attack, I get that sometimes if I stay in the house all week. Once I get out and do things around people again I start feeling ok again and having more energy. Winter is really bad for me.

What is MDMA/Psychedelic therapy?
 
nurseangela said:
If you mean like a panic attack, I get that sometimes if I stay in the house all week. Once I get out and do things around people again I start feeling ok again and having more energy. Winter is really bad for me.

What is MDMA/Psychedelic therapy?
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ok, very nice.

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Well, in this case, one would prepare a nice cozy set and setting, so in bed with some music or whatever it is.

Psychedelic therapy:
- Could be done in darkness too. (bed. no lights. no sound.)


In general overall just be laying down and focusing on emotions and stuff?
 
Last Fortress said:
ok, very nice.

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Well, in this case, one would prepare a nice cozy set and setting, so in bed with some music or whatever it is.

Psychedelic therapy:
- Could be done in darkness too. (bed. no lights. no sound.)


In general overall just be laying down and focusing on emotions and stuff?
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Oh. I'm sorry. I thought you were meaning drugs like LSD. I was thinking "wouldn't that just make things stranger?!" :confused:
 
I'm not clear on what it is that bothers you about going outside. Or are you implying you have something like agoraphobia? I know that can be devastating for those who have it.
 
Street MDMA is also called Ecstasy and is often not made in a controlled laboratory setting...it interacts with your seratonin receptors and may lead to an addiction much like cocaine as it has the same effects...the other part of the drug simulates mescaline and adds the psychedelic event.

My advice will be to say no to this treatment as you stand a chance of destroying your ability of ever feeling good again without it.

Ecstasy,molly or what ever patent name it is given next is as bad as any street chemical mess you get yourself into with unknown side effects from unknown chemical compositions resulting from sloppy lab work and the "I don't give a sh*t what happens to the user attitude because it makes me a profit" There is a lot of added crap that is added as fillers and enhancers to the pills that have their own issues,let alone mixing them with bathtub pills.

Stay away from this please
 
Nitro said:
Street MDMA is also called Ecstasy and is often not made in a controlled laboratory setting...it interacts with your seratonin receptors and may lead to an addiction much like cocaine as it has the same effects...the other part of the drug simulates mescaline and adds the psychedelic event.

My advice will be to say no to this treatment as you stand a chance of destroying your ability of ever feeling good again without it.

Ecstasy,molly or what ever patent name it is given next is as bad as any street chemical mess you get yourself into with unknown side effects from unknown chemical compositions resulting from sloppy lab work and the "I don't give a sh*t what happens to the user attitude because it makes me a profit" There is a lot of added crap that is added as fillers and enhancers to the pills that have their own issues,let alone mixing them with bathtub pills.

Stay away from this please
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Thank you Nitro for explaining that.

I wish people would just stay off of those kind if things. I just don't understand how that would help any situation. Where does a person get the idea that something like that helps? Don't even get me started. I can understand wanting to try a prescription medicine under a doctors supervision, but street drugs? I wish that everyone could have a chance to see some of the patients that come into the hospital that are on street drugs and prescribed drugs too. Once a person gets started on that crap it's hard to get the same effects and more has to be taken causing a lot of overdoses. Those people's lives are screwed up. And you can always plan on depression with any of those drugs. Nothing good ever comes from it. Ever.
 
Last Fortress said:
So your trying to say that I keep my self withdrawn & isolated from society for the rest of my life?.

hah. hahahah
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That's not what anyone is saying. But stay away from the ecstasy---there are safer ways to deal with your anxiety, if that's the problem you're having.
 
I remember that age/ stage in puberty generally being hell... ?
 
nurseangela said:
Thank you Nitro for explaining that.

I wish people would just stay off of those kind if things. I just don't understand how that would help any situation. Where does a person get the idea that something like that helps? Don't even get me started. I can understand wanting to try a prescription medicine under a doctors supervision, but street drugs? I wish that everyone could have a chance to see some of the patients that come into the hospital that are on street drugs and prescribed drugs too. Once a person gets started on that crap it's hard to get the same effects and more has to be taken causing a lot of overdoses. Those people's lives are screwed up. And you can always plan on depression with any of those drugs. Nothing good ever comes from it. Ever.
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ok. got you. but the MDMA use would be for relaxing. not raving..

but anyway, will take psychedelics :)
 
nurseangela said:
Psychedelics aren't any better. Goodluck with that. I just got done exercising and I feel great!
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If you think Psychedelics aren't any better than MDMA, then I will change my words for you in another context, what I was trying to say is how Psychedelic therapy in a good set and setting on a low dose could benefit the ASD that I have been diagnosed with. And this is a real possibility, maybe not in your case, but it needs to brought up and discussed.

I truly think that some, not all, but well, most people diagnosed with 'ASD', truly don't have it deep down, its not rooted in their soul. And for one, before they die, they can remove their ASD. They truly can .
 
I have an open mind for any discussion - especially medical. Are there any medical journal articles supporting the claim that either of those "drugs" are beneficial for ANY ailment?

I would also like to hear from any others on this forum who have AS and have tried any of the above substances and what benefits they experienced (I'm an NT by the way, Last Fortress, and I'm here to learn all I can regarding AS.)
 
Last Fortress said:
I truly think that some, not all, but well, most people diagnosed with 'ASD', truly don't have it deep down, its not rooted in their soul. And for one, before they die, they can remove their ASD. They truly can .
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If they actually have it, it can't be "removed"---not by drugs or anything else. The most anyone with ASD can really do is seek counseling to help with the emotional burden and with symptom management. (Drugs are used for symptom management too, but obviously it's under appropriate supervision.)

If they don't have it, they've likely been misdiagnosed and should be re-evaluated. And they certainly shouldn't use any unofficial diagnosis to justify using drugs unsupervised.
 
nurseangela said:
I have an open mind for any discussion - especially medical. Are there any medical journal articles supporting the claim that either of those "drugs" are beneficial for ANY ailment?

I would also like to hear from any others on this forum who have AS and have tried any of the above substances and what benefits they experienced (I'm an NT by the way, Last Fortress, and I'm here to learn all I can regarding AS.)
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Why yes, as a matter of fact, what is this?:
Gary Fisher - Treatment of Childhood Schizophrenia Utilizing LSD and Psilocybin
 
That's not from a neutral source, though. The article is from the Multidisciplinary Association for Psychedelic Studies, a nonprofit working to make marijuana and psychedelics into legal prescription drugs.
 
Ereth said:
That's not from a neutral source, though. The article is from the Multidisciplinary Association for Psychedelic Studies, a nonprofit working to make marijuana and psychedelics into legal prescription drugs.
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huh? ok, fine then. just search it and get your own search results on it if you want.
 
Despite considering drugs to be an option (and perhaps a valid one at that), it sounds quite a bit like a cry for support to advocate drugs (and use thereof) to "fix" any issues you have.

But what exactly is your problem? You can't be "normal"? I would probably fail that definition as well yet I'm not making a big issue out of it. If, what you describe as "the whole world is falling down" is an issue, then I might even recommend looking up a therapist and go through the professional route, rather than trying things on your own.

Not that trying this on your own is wrong as such, but result may vary as they say. Such things might better be managed under supervision of a professional.
 
That was indeed very interesting. It appeared the drug opened up the mind which if extremely traumatized will shut down so the person can "deal" with reality. That's what hypnosis is supposed to do as well. Maybe these children were so "shut down" that this drug was the only way to open that part of their memories and make them have to face what happened.

The thing is, this was a very "controlled" environment with several educated people (nurses) and a therapist in order to keep the child safe and to facilitate psychotherapy. It wasn't used for recreational purposes, which the people using LSD in that fashion can be blamed for these research experiments coming to an end. This goes back to what I was saying in that all drugs should be taken under a doctors supervision. I DO NOT believe in this drug (LSD, psychedelics) being used for "recreational fun". Also the drug was used for a limited time so therapy could be carried out and then the drug withdrawn. Another thing is that I don't think this research experiment was advocating this kind of therapy on "high functioning" autism. Is that correct?
 
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