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so..i got let go because i asked for accommodations

madisen622

autistic kidcore grandpa
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as you can tell by the title i got let go/fired yesterday from my job. they told me they couldn’t accommodate me, that what i was asking was unreasonable. they told me id have a better time fitting in somewhere else. i told them okay and packed up my stuff at my desk then left.

i have an interview next tuesday at Books A Million at 1:30pm. i guess im asking if i should even ask for accommodations anymore at jobs? ive had multiple bad experiences with asking for accommodations, i think im ready to give up. my mom suggested maybe i collect unemployment for the time being if i don’t think i can hold a steady job. my partner said id get stir crazy if i did that.

have you ever asked for accommodations at your job? how did it go? what do yall do for work?
 
as you can tell by the title i got let go/fired yesterday from my job. they told me they couldn’t accommodate me, that what i was asking was unreasonable. they told me id have a better time fitting in somewhere else. i told them okay and packed up my stuff at my desk then left.

i have an interview next tuesday at Books A Million at 1:30pm. i guess im asking if i should even ask for accommodations anymore at jobs? ive had multiple bad experiences with asking for accommodations, i think im ready to give up. my mom suggested maybe i collect unemployment for the time being if i don’t think i can hold a steady job. my partner said id get stir crazy if i did that.

have you ever asked for accommodations at your job? how did it go? what do yall do for work?

I suppose that depends on the accommodations you requested, relative to whatever job you were doing. Also to consider how this scenario probably doesn't play out well in what I presume is the American job market.

The only job I held when I stumbled onto to my own autism was when I was self-employed. One of the most effective ways of mitigating autism with others, though it has many other difficult things to consider as well. Not a viable option for a lot of folks, autistic or not.

A lot of variables in play depending on the actual circumstances. Hint:

Asperger's Syndrome in the Workplace: Navigating Employee Termination Ethically and Legally
 
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as you can tell by the title i got let go/fired yesterday from my job. they told me they couldn’t accommodate me, that what i was asking was unreasonable. they told me id have a better time fitting in somewhere else. i told them okay and packed up my stuff at my desk then left.
I am sorry this happened to you.

Are you familiar with the laws about disability accomodations where you live? (And if so, can you tell us what they are? Not necessarily specifically or verbatim, if you wish to keep your exact location private [as I generally do] , but just a basic idea if your being fired was even legal?)

I ask because the best ways to approach disclosing autism and asking for accomodations probably depend a lot on where in the world you live, as different countries (and different regions within countries) all have different laws...

As well as different levels of typical awareness; And different social trends re: whether anti-discrimination laws are ever followed or enforced....

Sadly I get the sense that even in places where disability is a protected ground and employers are not allowed to fire you for requesting reasonable accomodations (nor allowed to refuse to give you the accomodatins -- esp not if prior to your requesting accomodations they gave feedback that you were doing a good job and they had no intention of firing you, ever) that it happens a lot anyways and there is often or usually nothing you can do about it.

(Also I could understand not wanting to work somewherr where you are made to feel unwanted or unwelcome, or are resented,even if you could force them to give you your job back or give you accomodations)

i have an interview next tuesday at Books A Million at 1:30pm. i guess im asking if i should even ask for accommodations anymore at jobs? ive had multiple bad experiences with asking for accommodations, i think im ready to give up. my mom suggested maybe i collect unemployment for the time being if i don’t think i can hold a steady job. my partner said id get stir crazy if i did that.

have you ever asked for accommodations at your job? how did it go? what do yall do for work?

At my last workplace, I actually was given accomodations without asking (more flexible breaktimes; all instructions written down in concrete detail because I would not understand and/or forget most of what I was told almost instantly otherwise; bit of extra time for certain tasks; never being assigned to main desk during busiest time because I couldnt multi-task to save my life and would be instantly overwhelmed...was usually sent for my longest break during busiest time) just by disclosing I had ADHD....

I did not have autism diagnosis then (although unknown suspected developmental disability was recorded all over the place from early childhood...was even on file with the police where I grew up...my autism has never been as subtle as I once thought) and all my autism things that did not overlap ADHD symptoms were bizarrely misconstrued as other things...

...but that was a one in a million work environment,....

And I suspect I would never have been hired if they had known I was autistic.

And I was so so certain I would not be hired back once diagnosed with autism I quit the position I was on leave from. (They held it for almost a year...I was good at that job but also wildly overestimated...I had to argue to be put on sick leave until I came back for follow up meeting and supervisor saw what a state I was in...def not okay.)

I was probably right about not being hired back after diagnosis...because the one supervisor I eventually told later said, in disbelief "Really?? You never seemed that off...."

And because interacting with an autistic client was sort of a litmus test for the suitability of new employees...

I still remember being told I had passed the "[person's name]-test", of not making them uncomfortable nor seeming discomfited myself...I actually clearly remember that first interaction with them, and how restful it was compared to talking to everyone else (lol) and how I didnt understand why everyone seemed to think this person was weird....

My workplace also eventually decided it was maybe unsafe for autistic people so although I wouldnt be surprised if more than that one person had some kind of ASD ....nobody really knew anything about it....anyways the point is I am pretty sure I was right about not being hired back.

Autism seems treated by employers a lot like Intellectual Disability if not sometimes worse...because people cannot seem to categorize it within their pre-existing conceptual models of "atypical/abnormal brain things" and there are a lot of weird and inaccurate but very strongly held stereotypes about it.

I don't work for anyone now and havent for a long time -- mostly because there aren't a lot of jobs I can do well enough and taking care of myself is a full time job (and I fail at even that -- not down on myself, no longer think it is a shameful thing since I do my best and cannot control this about myself....it is just reality)...

And because most people no longer chalk up my weirdness to youth, since I'm not young anymore; So while I have actually never done well in interviews I probably have zero hope now, and wouldnt even get past that first hurdle;

When I first applied for Income Support (likely equivalent to unemployment) the worker immediately arranged a 2-day government paid neuropsychological assessment (was how I was diagnosed with Autism), suspecting I should be on disability....

Is there a branch of Specialisterne where you live? They are an autism specific employment agency that operates in [correction:] many countries see link: Specialisterne

Another idea is to see if there are disability specific employment supports offered by any other employment agencies or through government unemployment programming. (There used to be a couple in my area, although I would not be surprised if they have all lost funding in recent years.) These places usually have a list of disability-friendly employers, or will work with you to sort of liaise with potential employers you identify to explain how easy it is to accomodate you (usually it is not super hard, and concerns can be addressed - but employers may not give any credibility to what the applicant says).


If you just need something to do and to give meaning and purpose to your days you can probably volunteer while on unemployment (I'm not 100% sure about that though and it always varies from place to place what policies are)

Sorry I dont have better advice, but I wish you luck!

It might just take time to find an employer that isn't lacking awareness about disability and accomodations -- or you might want to try pairing disclosure of autism and need for accomodations with any disability-positive (and verifiable) information you can find about the benefits to hiring and accomodating an employee with a disability -- such as statistics that suggest people with disabilities tend to stay at their jobs longer.
 
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as you can tell by the title i got let go/fired yesterday from my job. they told me they couldn’t accommodate me, that what i was asking was unreasonable. they told me id have a better time fitting in somewhere else. i told them okay and packed up my stuff at my desk then left.

i have an interview next tuesday at Books A Million at 1:30pm. i guess im asking if i should even ask for accommodations anymore at jobs? ive had multiple bad experiences with asking for accommodations, i think im ready to give up. my mom suggested maybe i collect unemployment for the time being if i don’t think i can hold a steady job. my partner said id get stir crazy if i did that.

have you ever asked for accommodations at your job? how did it go? what do yall do for work?
I have issues even before my stroke or knowledge of my being on the spectrum of standing for a long time working in front of a fume hood in a lad difficult for me. Just sucked it up said nothing lasted twenty one years. sometimes you just have to figure things out for yourself, I Worked at the hood for short bursts, sat down for awhile since I worked alone no body noticed or asked questions I a physical form of masking. 40 years of working never once asked for accommodation. will power worked for me.
 
My brother was a genius, took time of work for mental health issue, Boss recognized his genius accommodated. unfortunately when he came back boss had changed he was let go thirty years went by no other job offers. Mental health and being on the spectrum not a good combination. As one Japanese said who wrote books on quality loss to society.
 
As one Japanese said who wrote books on quality loss to society.
Definitely a loss to society.

Everyone has something to contribute (even beyond employement for those who cannot work), I truly believe that.

And so many people who can work, they just need a specific environment to suit their particular ability profile.

I always lament that I cannot remember wherr I read this, but it was something grade-school teacher wrote...about how the best individualized accomodations for "special ed" kids in schools are actually how every single student should be treated in school - how that kind of thing benefits everyone and enhances classroom harmony and individual success.

I think the same idea should apply to workplaces -- give people what they need as individuals wherever you can. In return most will give back in productivity, innovation, and loyalty.
 
I suppose that depends on the accommodations you requested, relative to whatever job you were doing.
That's a very important factor. I've been both employee and employer so I understand the frustration on both sides.

If what you're asking for is going to cause disruptions to workflow or create more work for other people or otherwise make things more difficult then it's in the employers best interests to just replace you. You can make all the legal arguments you like but if they want you gone they'll find a way.

The other thing is people don't like surprises. Getting the job first and then telling them "Oh by the way, I expect this this and this." is never going to go down very well. They feel like you've just conned them. Always discuss any requirements you have during the job interview, give them an opportunity to make an informed decision about employing you.

I changed jobs a lot in life, it's an autism thing. :) That means I did a lot of job interviews and I got pretty good at them. I always treated prospective employers as equals and discussed with them on equal terms what I wanted and what I was capable of doing. So I sold myself and explained some of my quirks while I was at it.

"I'm not here for the social life. I'm not here to make friends and I don't do work christmas parties, I just like to be left alone to do my job." was always one of my stipulations.
 
See that Dutch company that makes the machine that makes the chips they search the world for us. My brother had not passed they may have found him genius electronics engineer. I guess their competitors Intel is having a rough time finding, us or getting us into their country.
 
It also can be precarious for one requesting such accommodations in the event they choose to ask for such things well after being hired and past any probationary period.

Something that can promote distrust among managers who inevitably ponder why such employees didn't ask for such accommodations at the outset of their being hired.

Making me think that the prudent thing to do if you seek such considerations, to do so no later than when you are past a probationary period of employment. Though of course there are no guarantees as to how many employer handles such things, whether they are compliant within the law or not.
 
That's a very important factor. I've been both employee and employer so I understand the frustration on both sides.

If what you're asking for is going to cause disruptions to workflow or create more work for other people or otherwise make things more difficult then it's in the employers best interests to just replace you. You can make all the legal arguments you like but if they want you gone they'll find a way.

The other thing is people don't like surprises. Getting the job first and then telling them "Oh by the way, I expect this this and this." is never going to go down very well. They feel like you've just conned them. Always discuss any requirements you have during the job interview, give them an opportunity to make an informed decision about employing you.

I changed jobs a lot in life, it's an autism thing. :) That means I did a lot of job interviews and I got pretty good at them. I always treated prospective employers as equals and discussed with them on equal terms what I wanted and what I was capable of doing. So I sold myself and explained some of my quirks while I was at it.

"I'm not here for the social life. I'm not here to make friends and I don't do work christmas parties, I just like to be left alone to do my job." was always one of my stipulations.
I enjoyed talking to the reps. and they really enjoyed chatting with me Not much social chat, rather lots of tech chat.
 
as you can tell by the title i got let go/fired yesterday from my job. they told me they couldn’t accommodate me, that what i was asking was unreasonable. they told me id have a better time fitting in somewhere else. i told them okay and packed up my stuff at my desk then left...
If you are in the U.S., this is horribly illegal.

Hire a lawyer, sue for $500,000, and settle out of court for $100,000.
 
I always ended up making a lot of friends too but they all knew if I was busy and focused I didn't want to be disturbed.
I guess being a closet extravert I enjoyed them coming in chemists even a few sales guys looking to increase their knowledge to help sales elsewhere.
 
as you can tell by the title i got let go/fired yesterday from my job. they told me they couldn’t accommodate me, that what i was asking was unreasonable. they told me id have a better time fitting in somewhere else. i told them okay and packed up my stuff at my desk then left.

i have an interview next tuesday at Books A Million at 1:30pm. i guess im asking if i should even ask for accommodations anymore at jobs? ive had multiple bad experiences with asking for accommodations, i think im ready to give up. my mom suggested maybe i collect unemployment for the time being if i don’t think i can hold a steady job. my partner said id get stir crazy if i did that.

have you ever asked for accommodations at your job? how did it go? what do yall do for work?
I would suggest reaching out to an employment rights lawyer, if possible. It may be that you were let go in violation of the law and are owed either a job back or compensation.
 
I was let go once took my severance did not sue as tight knit industry lost two years of my life worked out OK. made up the financial loss following my brothers advice. Suing is so American, reputation matters. In my case specialized knowledge tight knit industry. Wife has buddy, who has sued many times. learned it follows you around. She is currently living off her late husbands pension and proceeds of won cases. Very bright poorly educated lady who is NT.
 
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Must admit stupid companies combined with lawyers willing to work pro bono see low hanging fruit. I invested to much in my career to chance getting black listed. Bad enough no promotion do to being on the spectrum. Now hear I sit world class expert on industrial painting and controlling colour. Wifes buddy just turned down our offer for free rent in spare room. As he thinks his level of car will be to high. life is strange. Want to give back. would love to have understudy.
 
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Are your need for accommodations prescribed/recommended by a doctor?

When you accepted this position, was your employer aware of this need?

When you signed the paperwork accepting this position, did you sign a document that says you can complete the job duties as outlined without any accommodations?

Depending on what you're asking for, and your state laws, you may not have any options. You can't assign yourself work restrictions arbitrarily. And if you do, your employer is under no obligation to agree to your request, especially if you have already attested that you did not require any accommodations at the time of hire.

If you really do need work restrictions for a condition, physical or otherwise, you'll need to see a doctor to have it done in writing and be able to present it to a future employer.

Source: I work in a clinic that onboards hospital employees.
 

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