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Pulled over for no seatbelt

Crossbreed said:
Some sobriety tests are harder than others...
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Here there's no sobriety test like that. Breath test and saliva swab. They can and do pull over any one at any time and conduct random tests. Sometimes they block roads off and test every single driver. Refuse a test and you get arrested and taken to hospital for blood samples.
 
I can't walk heel-toe in a straight line even being stone-cold sober. Would be awkward to have to do much of any field sobriety test for this old coot. :rolleyes:
 
Judge said:
I can't walk heel-toe in a straight line even being stone-cold sober. Would be awkward to have to do much of any field sobriety test for this old coot. :rolleyes:
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This is why law enforcement need disability awareness training. (And why objective measures like saliva tests and blood alcohol testing are better than asking people prove coordination or do specific cognitive tasks that could be impaired generally without impairing driving ability -- like count backwards from 100)

It's also why people whose movement or behaviour and communication is always visibly unusual (especially males - like me) get the same talk visible racial minority kids get about how to interact with police if they are ever stopped and questioned for no apparent reason, or ever mistreated by police.

I was explicitly told, when I was about 13 years old (not all of this is 100% verbatim but the parts that are not verbatim are very, very close):

"You do every single thing they tell you to as fast as you can, even if the police officer is telling you to do something wrong or hurting you."

"You never ever question or refuse anything; Not even if the officer is abusing you. Not even if you know what they are asking or ordering you to do is illegal" [ie sexually abusing you -- most police officers are not bad people and do not exploit power to hurt anyone ever, but some do -- same can be said for any profession where people have a lot of power/authority]

"You ALWAYS without exception, do what they tell you to"

"You keep your hands visible, out of your pockets"

"You answer every question calling the police officer 'sir' or 'ma'am' or 'officer' to show respect. Always. You say "yes sir", "no sir" or "I don't know sir" - it's important."

"You never fight, you never argue, you never talk back, you never question them and you never, ever run. Even if they are hurting you or making you do something bad. Because if you fight or talk back or run, you give them a reason or an excuse to use force and you could die just from restraint. And if that happens it doesn't matter if they did something wrong: Because you can't get help for what was done to you or report a corrupt officer who hurts you if you're dead."
 
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We have detection cameras for all of that everywhere these days. Not wearing a seatbelt, using a mobile phone, animals or children on the driver's lap, etc. The cameras don't miss much and there's no nice cop that can let you off with a warning, you start getting fines in the mail and then you get the letter telling you you've lost your license.

The cameras also check vehicle registration and if the driver holds a valid license. Dash cams and side cams on cop cars also do the same thing, and once it's on camera they're not allowed to let you off.
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Sounds like you live in a police state.
 
Matthias said:
Sounds like you live in a police state.
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Some people from other countries see it that way, especially from one country in particular, yet here we have types of freedom and levels of public safety that make us a very desirable country to migrate to. More than 30% of our population are either first or second generation migrants.

If you look you'll find a few youtubers that tried migrating here and didn't like it and left again, but they're massively outnumbered by people saying that moving here was the best decision they ever made in their lives. Including Americans.

This one's from England:

 
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