Paranormal Phenomena

[Ronald Zeeman]

Keeping in mind that earthbound science may well apply to this plane of existence, but not others for which science is unaware of. When things like time, space, even life and death may be transcended by those who have the ability to pass from one dimension to another.

As vast as space may seem from the perspective of this one dimension, it may be infinitely larger based on those dimensions science cannot yet account for.

I suspect that their is four spatial dimensions splitting a universe in two both sides existing con currently. think mobius strip, fourth dimension is the space between the two halves. or using a strip of paper the thickness of the paper outside is concurrently inside, just like Klein bottle.

 

[Cyber]

In the case of monsters / cryptids, I give the blanket example of the stuff you'd watch in those Missing: 411 documentaries. All of the locations mapped out for the US and even other countries began to look familiar to other maps that I knew of. Karst Maps. Karst mapping shows you where cave systems, cenotes and such are - openings and the systems in full underground. Missing persons / creature sighting and cave locations match up as dead on as one could hope for. I feel like such creatures live underground where there's plenty of room and certainly can stay hidden away from all our noise and mess of civilization going on.

I'll address these in sequence, can cryptids live/hide in caves or in deep Lochs or in oceans. If this was the case then at least one should turn up dead at some point. Although it wasn't till the 21st century that evidence for giant squid existing turned up on film and being washed ashore. But monsters/cryptids may not be what we think they are and there may be dimensional portals which are like "dog doors" through which creatures learn to come and go into our dimension.

On the matter of missing people. Much harder to link this with the paranormal. People hiking into the wilderness or deep into caves (even experienced trekkers/cavers) are always at risk.

 

[Cyber]

In the case of UFO / UAP, I'm very in line with the thinking that they live in the oceans. NASA was originally very interested in the oceans and exploring them, and then they very suddenly stopped almost entirely. They also don't let just anyone explore down there or near Antarctica much (or at all). Only the extremely wealthy get to really skirt their rule of thumb. More and more evidence is coming out to back this up, lately.

Actually there's a book by UFO historian Richard Dolan on this subject.
https://www.amazon.com/History-USOs-Unidentified-Submerged-Beginning/dp/B0DX1XGFBK

the now famous tic tac UAPs have been tracked by naval radar coming and going from near space flying down into the ocean and other craft have been tracked underwater. Indeed the famous Jersey "drones" were also tracked from the ocean.

 

[Cyber]

I'm of two minds as to why any beings on the other sides are ever able to give us evidence they exist: a) they have the technology but are expressly not supposed to contact us, so when it does happen, it's some of them breaking the rules. b) they don't have the technology at all, and it's just moments / places where "the veil" is thinnest / a window, door or bridge of opportunity is "open" for however briefly and then there's just very few of them with paranormal abilities who can come through. Some of them are decent. Some of them are angry / violent / pranksters / stupid.
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Final thing is "apparitions" existing outside our plane/dimension able to phase in and out into our plane. A big question is "intent". People have been speculating for decades what is the intent of entities that interact with humans. Perhaps some don't know how to interact or don't want to interact. In the case of aliens and/or teacher spirits (gods?) experiencers claim these entities look after humanity and taught us simple things like find edible plants or make fire in ancient times or in the case of Nicola tesla instruct how to create electrical grids.

 

[Cyber]

I suspect that their is four spatial dimensions splitting a universe in two both sides existing con currently. think mobius strip, fourth dimension is the space between the two halves. or using a strip of paper the thickness of the paper outside is concurrently inside, just like Klein bottle.

Carl Sagan gave a clever analogy of our perception being like a disk on a table that has 360 degree view but only able to gauge "reality" from the side of the disk and only to the perimeter of the table, unable to gauge reality beyond the table, above the table, below the table and not perceiving we live on a table.

Despite acknowledging our perceptual limitations, Sagan mocked the idea of non-human entities, relying on the fermi paradox and vastness of space (the limits of the surface of the table) to block any real investigation into phenomena and giving credence to spending millions of dollars to the Seti project which has been scanning space listening for radio waves. Since 1971 its (not surprisingly) found nothing.

 

[Ronald Zeeman]

I like Occam's razor keep it simple.

 

[Cyber]

The principle of Occam's razor is generally attributed to William of Ockham (also spelled Occam) (c. 1285 - 1348), an English theologian, logician, and Franciscan friar. In William of Occam's terms, he wrote in Latin: "Numquam ponenda est pluralitas sine necessitate," or "Plurality must never be posited without necessity."

While Occam's razor is a useful tool, it has been known to obstruct scientific progress at times. It was used to accept simplistic (and initially incorrect) explanations for meteorites, ball lightning, continental drift, atomic theory, and DNA as the carrier of genetic information. Once more research was done and more evidence brought to light, however, new theories emerged based on the new information.

Occam's razor doesn't necessarily go with the simplest theory, whether it's right or wrong; it is not an example of simplicity for simplicity's sake. It merely tries to cut through the clutter to find the best theory based on the best scientific principles and knowledge at the time.

The origin and popular use of Occam's razor | American Association for the Advancement of Science (AAAS)

 

[Cyber]

I wanted to start an archive on actual historic evidence of x-files that can't be disputed exist.

Here are 5 x US taxpayer funded paranormal research projects in 5 x prestigious US universities
5 Real Paranormal Studies Conducted by U.S. Universities

three of these are worth investigating purely from a historical perspective.

1. Cornell precognition study
APA PsycNet
In a basic memory experiment, Prof Daryl Bern from Cornell gave a group of participants a list of words to remember. Once they’ve had chance to try and commit the list to memory, he gave them a bit of a break, or asked them to do some sort of distractor task. Finally, he then give them a larger list of words – some of which they saw in the original list, some of which are new – and get them to say whether they recognise the words or not.

Bem’s study flipped this idea on its head across a number of different experiments. In one such test, he got participants to read a list of 48 words, and then immediately asked them to write down as many as they could remember. Then, he gave the participants a random subset of 24 words from the original 48, and asked them to type them out on a computer screen. In other words, the recall session came before the practice session. At face value, Bem’s findings were remarkable: he reported that in the initial recall test, participants seemed better at remembering words that they would see in the later practice session, than words that they wouldn’t see later on. In other words, people were better at recalling words that they would be told to remember in the future.

2. Veritas program University of Arizona.
Psychic Criminology: A Guide for Using Psychics in Investigations, Second Edition | Office of Justice Programs
Studies in psychic abilities generated an published guide for using psychics in police investigations
Despite ridicule, police in the US continue to use psychics to help in criminal investigations

3. CIA and Stanford University SRI investigation into remote viewing
Follow‐up on the U.S. Central Intelligence Agency's (CIA) remote viewing experiments☆ - PMC.

what's interesting is exhaustive peer reviewed investigation of remote viewing (psychic) research conducted between the CIA and the Stanford Research Institute back in the 1970s demonstrate
1. that emotions could directly or indirectly precipitate anomalous cognitions (and perhaps even other psi‐related cognitions)
2. the findings from SRI and CIA yielded above‐chance results.

Of course reproducibility is a hallmark of the scientific method and it would be great if more funding could be made available to replicate ethe findings from these peer reviewed studies.

 

[Cyber]

Oh and don't bother asking chatgpt or wikipedia
the scientific consensus is that there is no evidence for precognition:
Precognition, the claimed ability to predict the future, is not considered a real phenomenon by the scientific community. While some individuals report having precognitive experiences, there's no reliable scientific evidence to support the existence of this ability. Many studies attempting to demonstrate precognition have been flawed or have failed to replicate, and the concept itself clashes with the established scientific understanding of causality.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Precognit ... %20history.

But the problem is...everyone's brain activates before we make a decision.
Decoding the contents and strength of imagery before volitional engagement - Scientific Reports

Our unconscious brain activity determines our choices well before we are aware of them.
https://www.unsw.edu.au/newsroom/news/2 ... ng%20(fMRI)%20machine.

this mechanism exists, and it potentially biases our everyday choices. But where does the brain get data about an event that hasn't taken place?