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Our world, Adam (pbuh), Noah (pbuh), Scientifically

lunarious

lunarious

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Our "world" is 7000 years old. The cradle of civilization was in Sumer aka Iraq 7000 years ago, historically. Prophet Adam (pbuh) was living 7000 years ago. Noahs Ark was after Prophet Adam (pbuh). Christians say our world is 6000 years old AFAIK.

Before Prophet Adam (pbuh) there was other "worlds", as stone age and bronze age.

Noahs Ark happened supposedly because of Tsunami and volcanic sea explosions. 100 000 people died in Minutes. God told Prophet Noah (pbuh) to build an ark before the Tsunami happened.
 
My hobbies of Paleontology, Geology, and Cultural History all tell me that the children's fiction that you relate is far more banal and unimaginative than the reality of earth's history.
 
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You are maybe right. What i'm saying is "childrens fiction". Because I'm telling kids to talk to God, and learn from him.

Muslims (and Religious people?) have a duty to seek knowledge. Beyond that I'm not sure if Allah exist. But when and if I pray i direct myself to The Creator of the universe.

Edit: Kids are dirty. They must shower (Ghosol) and do Ablution (Wodoo')
 
Yeah, it always confuses me when religion denies science or cherry-picks it - because accepting science is way more logical, in my opinion. I'll explain.

Science is exactly the study, research, learning and understanding (based on repeated experimentation) to figure out how anything in all of creation works - finding out every how / why / what that we can conclude to. Well, if you think your god is the sole creator of all that exists, then your god also created each and every how / what / why / details, designs and such of all that exists to even be tested and utilized ...and then it's all logged down as data into a label called, "science," .............so, when a religion decides to not believe any science.....that's close to being a kind of blasphemy (if even because it's denying said god is responsible for all of the awesome, amazing finds)....otherwise it's definitely a major contradiction.

The cherry-picking folks are problematic to me, as well. The same folks that will dispute countless repeated tests using carbon / radiometric dating for how old the Earth is (or anything for that matter)...are the same folks who love and accept the same science when just one of however many tests were done on the shroud of Turin that allowed for a possible conclusion that it was authentic.

And then sometimes it's even worse. You'll find out some person is claiming the Earth is flat, but then they'll turn around and want Vatican scholars (scientists) to test their piece of toast that they swear has the effigy of their prophet burnt into it.
 
Dagan said:
Yeah, it always confuses me when religion denies science or cherry-picks it - because accepting science is way more logical, in my opinion. I'll explain.

Science is exactly the study, research, learning and understanding (based on repeated experimentation) to figure out how anything in all of creation works - finding out every how / why / what that we can conclude to. Well, if you think your god is the sole creator of all that exists, then your god also created each and every how / what / why / details, designs and such of all that exists to even be tested and utilized ...and then it's all logged down as data into a label called, "science," .............so, when a religion decides to not believe any science.....that's close to being a kind of blasphemy (if even because it's denying said god is responsible for all of the awesome, amazing finds)....otherwise it's definitely a major contradiction.

The cherry-picking folks are problematic to me, as well. The same folks that will dispute countless repeated tests using carbon / radiometric dating for how old the Earth is (or anything for that matter)...are the same folks who love and accept the same science when just one of however many tests were done on the shroud of Turin that allowed for a possible conclusion that it was authentic.

And then sometimes it's even worse. You'll find out some person is claiming the Earth is flat, but then they'll turn around and want Vatican scholars (scientists) to test their piece of toast that they swear has the effigy of their prophet burnt into it.
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I once knew a woman who thought her rusty screen door had the image of Jesus on it. It just looked like random rust to me.
 
Dagan said:
Yeah, it always confuses me when religion denies science or cherry-picks it - because accepting science is way more logical, in my opinion. I'll explain.

Science is exactly the study, research, learning and understanding (based on repeated experimentation) to figure out how anything in all of creation works - finding out every how / why / what that we can conclude to. Well, if you think your god is the sole creator of all that exists, then your god also created each and every how / what / why / details, designs and such of all that exists to even be tested and utilized ...and then it's all logged down as data into a label called, "science," .............so, when a religion decides to not believe any science.....that's close to being a kind of blasphemy (if even because it's denying said god is responsible for all of the awesome, amazing finds)....otherwise it's definitely a major contradiction.

The cherry-picking folks are problematic to me, as well. The same folks that will dispute countless repeated tests using carbon / radiometric dating for how old the Earth is (or anything for that matter)...are the same folks who love and accept the same science when just one of however many tests were done on the shroud of Turin that allowed for a possible conclusion that it was authentic.

And then sometimes it's even worse. You'll find out some person is claiming the Earth is flat, but then they'll turn around and want Vatican scholars (scientists) to test their piece of toast that they swear has the effigy of their prophet burnt into it.
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The way I figure it, God created everything in the universe, including the laws of physics. If we see contradictions between them, then either our interepretation of religion is incorrect or our understanding of science is incomplete. Both are reasons for us to continue to study and learn.
 
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