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Marie A

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Hi everyone. I am the mom of a newly diagnosed son with autism. (September 2018) Since his diagnosis I feel as if I've been running in circles through sand. Truth be told, Im downright terrified of messing this up.

Brace yourselves, this is going to be a long read.

Deep down I feel I have always know my son was different. For backgrounds sake my husband has ADHD (inattentive) and was diagnosed later in life ( early 30s) after we had had our son. My son who I will refer to as T is our firstborn child. He met all his developmental milestones on time until the age of 2. At that time I was expecting his younger sister. He went through a lot of medical issues during those 9 months from serious dental work to correct damage done by a fall to chicken pox.

When I would worry abt his behavior (rigidity and aggression) both mine and my husbands families told me not to worry and that my son was a "carbon copy" Of his father in childhood. My husbands side also has a history of late speech in boys and that paired with the possibility of ADHD and a colicky new baby was enough for me to second guess my doubts that something might be different.

I am ashamed to say we continued on like this until T reached the age of 3 when he began to have huge shifts in his aggression and emotions. It was getting harder to go places and he refused to come inside from his favorite place -the car- for sometimes hours at a time.

We began to bring these struggles up to his pediatrician who did the MCHAT screening a total of 4 times over the next year. Each time T registered a 2 - 4 or not at all on the scale to which the pediatrician would say there wasn't substantial reason to refer to a specialist. The behaviors became attributed to schedules, sibling rivalry, family history ect until the summer T was 3.

We finally reached out to the school district to see if he would place in a program. Unfortunately it was the last week of school and we were wait listed until September. November of that year finally came around and it was an eye opener.

We went in to a classroom for a placement test with a few other kids and it was shocking to me to see how T was compared to other kids. He spoke drastically less and barely followed direction or made eye contact. He was repeating the same rote phrases over and over and I just kept seeing the teachers shake their heads silently out of the corner of my eye. The carefully too cheery smiles. The "well we don't know for sure.... "

Unfortunately the school district is not legally allowed to outright say to a parent that 'we think your child is on the spectrum'. I was given a speech about how my son needed speech therapy and placement in a smaller class size but that "even a child who needs say, 20 min, of speech therapy a week counts as special needs" on paper and how I shouldn't let it worry me.

We were given a possible list of hospitals to further seek "a closer look" at T if we wanted but how it was entirely "our choice, no pressure". While I can respect that they don't want any legal entanglements from an administrative perspective, it would have been lovely to been " Woken up" To the reality that T was different and my fears justified.

We started school 2 weeks later and right before Christmas break T brought home RSV (a sinus virus) and his sister ended up in the ER and admitted into an isolated ward over the holidays. Thus unfortunately research and the probing questions I had about T had to be placed on a back burner until his sister was healthy enough to not need a potential NG tube. T continued with school and happily made wonderful progress (we no longer spent hours in the car) while his sister went though the early intervention system.

It wasn't until about March when we had parent teacher conferences and his lovely, patient, absolute GEM of a human being teacher confided in us that she did indeed see some common autism traits in T (difficulty transitioning, need for structure) that we decided we needed to talk to a developmental pediatrician. This began the process of paperwork and wait lists.

We got him into clinical speech and OT that Summer (after a lovely argument with his pediatrician who to my absolute outrage said if we had seen these behaviors before "why hadn't we mentioned them before" -we switched pediatricians immediately following that particular remark. God how I wish we had done so sooner.) as we waited for his turn. He went through the extended school year program and enjoyed it immensely. We met his new teacher for his full official preschool year and she too was lovely and patient.

Finally came September of 2018 when we went downtown to see his developmental pediatrician. 3 hours later he and a child psychologist informed us that T indeed fit the criteria for ASD and I tried my hardest not to completely burst into tears as my son played quietly in the corner. I'm not going to lie. It hurt. All I could ask was if we were too late to get him help.

My main struggle is not that he has autism. I don't want him to hurt bc of it. People can be immeasurably cruel to those who are different. I know he is special but no parent wants their child bullied or ridiculed for being who they are or something they cannot control. I also know that shielding him in a bubble is not fair. I am ashamed to say I am not the best parent he could have. I lack understanding, discipline, patience and so much more.

I am so afraid. So afraid I have done or will do something to permanently damage him or his future because of what I perceive as "right" Or from a lack of understanding of his needs. I know a diagnosis does not change him. It just gives a name to who or how he already was. I just wish I knew how to proceed.

His development pediatrician suggested we continue in speech and OT as well as all the supports I'm school. He did not feel ABA was a default need for T as he doesn't need concepts broken down to that specific of a level. I know there is a lot of controversy surrounding ABA. For now our insurance does not cover it and the main providers in our area have rubbed me the wrong way with their need for a "controlled environment" so we have chosen to hold off on that option. I did try to get him floortime but it is very pricey and largely unavailable in our area. Right now I'm in the process of finding social skills groups and general behavior of therapy to help with general issues at home.

Thankfully T has continued to flourish amongst all this his speech improves daily and so does his regulation. He starts in an ILP kindergarten class this fall. The reason for this long post was to ask any parents but especially teens and adults on the spectrum what is it that you(r) parents/caregivers did or you wish they had done to help you deal with growing up in a world that favors Neurotypicals? What can I do to make life a little bit easier for my son? How do I deal with well meaning but very negative relatives? How can I be a better parent to a child who can't always convey his needs in a way I understand?

I don't want to limit him but I also don't want to push him too hard. How does one find the balance? It feels silly to ask this but how do I know he's truly happy? That the decisions I make about his care are in fact helping him? I know I sound a bit ridiculous but I'm finding myself kind of at a loss for direction lately. These are the thoughts that haunt me late at night.

Any and all suggestions would be appreciated Thank you for listening.
 
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I'm sorry for the bother, but me and at least one other person on this forum (I'm sure of it) is incapable of reading such a large wall of text. If you could split it up into bite-sized chunks, me and that one other person (minimum) would be happy to read every word! Thank you and welcome! :)
 
" First WARM welkome to the Forum Marie"

" Second You and youre husband have indeed gotten a heavy burden on youre shoulder (i know my Mum had a living ......... taking care of me (and this was also in an earlier time when they knew even less of this cind of NPD diagnosis)

Now then "

The reason for this long post was to ask any parents but especially teens and adults on the spectrum what is it that you(r) parents/caregivers did or you wish they had done to help you deal with growing up in a world that favors Neurotypicals?

" as an adult within said spectrum and also (see my sig & if so interested my profile) in my case i wish my mother had accepted that i indeed should have been sent to a special boarding school ( was around oh id say 10 ) as ALL my family thought this would be the best for me . BUT she couldn't let go of me despite the MANY difficulties i presented wich i can defenetly understand. ( Yes im saying IF you and youre husband feel that this is starting to go the wrong way both for youre kid and youre self there is NO shame in trying to locate a GOOD home that is designed for kids with this problems dear. THIS said as long as you both have the strainth to carry on and things go the right direction you should of course continue to do so and also DONT be afraid to ask for and demand help from the society "

What can I do to make life a little bit easier for my son?

"Continue to LOVE him and take care of him dear and be the BEST mum you can be fore youre son. And also as you have now Try to LEARN all you can about children with ASD and otherNPD diagnosis and also how the rest of their life might be for them "

How do I deal with well meaning but very negative relatives?

" Im not a parent my self BUT if i were to a child like youres id say if they cant respect or love my child as is with all its difficulties then who needs them. If they are as you say well meaning but negative enlighten them about what ASD / NPD diagnosis are "

How can I be a better parent to a child who can't always convey his needs in a way I understand?

" As i said you and youre husband can only be the best parents that you both can be dear. NO parent is perfect. and id say the trick is again learn about this diagnosis and also try to learn about youre son he might not be as clear in his way of communicating BUT im shore he tries his best and if you both try im shoe you will learn to read his way of communicating to you "

I don't want to limit him but I also don't want to push him too hard. How does one find the balance?

" I understand youre dilemma and im afraid the only answer i can give is you just have to prepare youre self both success as well as failure in this just as any other kid. BUT of course you have to ready in the background to help him and support him as well as push him gently and encourage him to whant to explore the world and widen his experiences "

It feels silly to ask this but how do I know he's truly happy?

" Nothing silly about that question and based on my self and my personal knowledge in this matters you will learn to see how he feels and all the rest dear its just that he has a different way of communicating then other kids but if you try to observe and understand how HE communicate im 101 % shore that in no time you as well as youre husband will learn how to read youre kid dear "

That the decisions I make about his care are in fact helping him?

" Being a parent to a kid with one or Multiple NPD diagnosis is among the toughest parenthood you can take on in my humble opinion. and sadly there are many parents that someday have to take the hard desition to try to find another professional home for kids with this cind of diagnosis HOWEVER there are of course those that manage to handle all this and succeed so by NO means am i saying find a home for him and walk away. What im trying to say is that IF you both decide to continue fighting it WILL be be a LONG rough road ahead so you both have to be prepared to this as well as ACCEPT the fact that you probably will need to seek professional support both for youre son as well as for you too. "

I know I sound a bit ridiculous but I'm finding myself kind of at a loss for direction lately. These are the thoughts that haunt me late at night. Any and all suggestions would be appreciated Thank you for listening.

" Youre not in ANY WAY SHAPE or form sounding ridiculous so stop that feeling. and last i hope i someway utliest slightly managed to help dear.:oops: "

Fino dear have you tried to do as i have ? I have increased the Zooming up to in my case 150 % in here and also try to copy paste the chunk of text and then you can separate the chunks of text according to youre desires so you can read and understand dear ?
 
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Okay, yeah the post was hard to read and grok for me too.

I am glad that you are here.

1. Stay away from Autism Speaks and ABA. ABA has induced PTSD in some autistic kids.

Autism Speaks and "Autism Parents" may induce panic.

2. That the diagnosis was delayed is absolutely not your fault. You were doing the best you could. The professionals failed and then tried to blame you. I am so very sorry this happened to you this way.

3. I wish my parents had casually mentioned "you are autistic" sometimes but they absolutely never ever did. I was left in torment by why i was such an abject failure at making friends.

4. I wish that I had been introduced to other autistic kids and to autistic adults.

5. I wish I had gotten more speech therapy and some OT.

6. Be careful with social skills groups. Be sure you drop in unannounced at your son's school during recess and gym. Watch the casual interactions between your son and his classmates.

Kids will get together and target any kids who are different. Social skills classes do not help that.

7. If your son's voice is monotone as mine was, once he has learned about syllables in school, teach him to put his hand under his chin. The accented syllable will make your chin move down.

I could not hear the accents in words. I had to feel them. Then I was able to modulate my voice. Unfortunately, it wasn't until college that I learned this from a phonetics professor.

8. Read the blogs of #ActuallyAutistic adults. It helps.

9. Do not stop your son from stimming unless he is hurting himself or someone else.

Join in the stims instead. That shows acceptance more than any words can.

Stimming is necessary for health and happiness. Stimming helps [me] to pay attention and helps to regulate [my] the sensory processing system.

Stimming is autistic body language.

Similarly, do not insist on eye contact. Eye contact hurts.

Encourage "special interests" or passions. They form the basis of many careers for us.

10. There are mean people in the world.

Do not forget that there are nice, wonderful, accepting people in the world too.


Best wishes!
 
Gahhhh, your old pediatrician is infuriating! People like that drive us crazy at our university speech and language clinic. They are so sure they know what autism looks like and so determined to "reassure" parents that nothing is wrong that they make kids and their parents spend years waiting to get help. Also, if a child scores in the 2-4 range on the MCHAT more than once, they're supposed to be referred for a diagnostic evaluation. Specifically, 3-7 means screen again, and if they then score 2 or greater they should be referred. It's right in the scoring guide! I'm furious on your behalf. Fortunately, you now know what's going on, and no, it's not too late.

Personally, I wasn't diagnosed until I insisted on it as an adult, although I figured it out as a teenager and there were clear signs even in preschool. I never had any services as a child so I only know what I've learned as a professional. However, I can say that you've made a great start. It sounds like you are carefully looking into each service T gets and making sure he has access to the ones that will really help him.

All I can say from my own experiences is please, celebrate his differences. My parents were so uncomfortable about me being weird that they made me feel like any strange behavior from me disgusted them. They didn't mean to. They really wanted to do the right thing but there was no one to tell them how to do it. I did learn, mostly, how to behave, but I also ended up highly self conscious and afraid of letting anyone know anything about me. I'm only now becoming a little more comfortable being myself.

I also second all of @china autie 's advice, although I will add that a good social group can be helpful. A good social group is fun, structured but not rigidly controlled, and works on social skills while also letting the kids be themselves.

I'm not sure how to deal with the negative relatives without knowing more about them. All I know is it can help to frame things positively. You may have to downplay problems and oversell successes a little with them. Or you may just need to normalize the problems and the successes. It depends on what they are doing. Either way, it will take time, and unfortunately some may never come around, but you can counter their influence by being a positive force in your son's life.

As for pushing him, figure out where his comfort zone is and then push just a little outside of it, but make sure he has somewhere safe to escape if it becomes too much. Self esteem also greatly increases resiliency, especially the kind of self esteem that comes from succeeding at things and having someone celebrate your success. When he does something well, tell him. I always took my successes for granted and obsessed about my failures. When he does something badly, help him work through it, and reassure him that it's not the end of the world and it can be fixed, and help him fix it. Encourage independence. Teach him skills. Teach him that what he does matters, that he has the power to influence the world. If he has a noticeable disability there will be people who assume he can't accomplish anything or decide the course of his own life. Teach him that it's not true. I can't tell you exactly how to do any of that, but working with that goal in mind will make you more likely to make choices that promote that outcome.

You've already made a good start. You can do this. You love your son. You value your son. You respect your son. You know he's living in a world that was made for neurotypicals, and you're finding him help for living in that world. You're not trying to make him normal; you're just trying to help him be happy, and that's a great goal for any parent to have.
 
what is it that you(r) parents/caregivers did or you wish they had done to help you deal with growing up in a world that favors Neurotypicals?
I really like your post. I am autistic, my son 35, and granddaughter 11 are also autistic.
When my son was in elementary school life was very stressful for him. He was/is highly intelligent and was very frustrated because making friends was so difficult for him as was sensory issues and frustrations in general. He had depression from a young age and he hurt deeply. He used to try to do things to hurt me, yet I knew he loved me. I knew he was a good child, and I knew he was filled with good things. I asked him when he was a few years older and had managed to get past trying to hurt me by saying hurtful things if he could tell me what that was about? He said he hurt so deeply, he just wanted to hurt himself and he asked himself how he could hurt himself the most and he decided that if he hurt me that would hurt him the most. I could have cried inside. I hated that my son hurt so deeply but I also knew he really did love me. I never took his meanness personally. I was just concerned about him. I loved him deeply and I wanted him to always know that.

He was a good friend, or he would have been had he been given a chance. He was a far better friend then the kids he played with. He had far more character. The school system made me so angry. They basically thew my son away. They put him in a special ed class and refused to teach him anything. He told me He sat in class with head phones every day and listed to some recording say "Burr is cold" and other ridiculous things. Now how ignorant is that? If I home schooled my son and said I taught him "Burr is cold" I would be arrested for not educating him. He was obviously more intelligent than most in the whole school system. The school threw away an excellent resource and intelligent child because he needed to learn differently. One school counselor told me she thought he was brilliant. His vocabulary was high school if not college level when he was in elementary school. I bought him the game magazines which was an excellent idea. They are geared for an older population.

If you need help dealing with the school system I will help you. It sounds like they are helping him now. I had to home school my son in elementary to get him an education. The school refused, just "Burr is cold" was the most they would offer.

I also didn't follow the psychologists instructions to make my home a behavior mod home. I said my son will be raised in a home not some type of pseudo institution. It will be his safe place. The world may be painful but in this house we will treat each other with respect. I let him know ahead of time the schedule. If we went somewhere I will let him know we would be leaving in about 15 min and remind him again about 5 minutes before departure so he could prepare himself for the change. I didn't surprise him with things. I bought him soft clothing, paid attention to loud sounds like movie theaters (we had to leave sometimes). Fire alarms were the worst. I talked to my son and granddaughter with respect. I wish someone had done that for me. My son always felt safe talking to me. He came to me and processed everything. And I do mean everything. I forced myself to be available, though much of this was difficult for me.

I think the most important thing is that we provide them with a safe non judgmental environment and help them process things. Autistic children and adults do have difficult processing some things. This helps us make better choices the next time. But each situation is different and the situation may need processing a different was the next time. We cannot necessarily generalize that this will work in similar situations.
Try not to have a loud house with lots of distractions coming from all directions. Kindness is a biggy. We pick up on meanness and hatefulness. When my son would act out in elementary school before they put him in special ed I would get my daily or several times weekly call to come get him. He would be under his desk or have yelled or something at some kid. The school always said it was unprovoked. I knew it was never unprovoked. My son's voice was at some pitch that could be heard from afar. The boys who would taunt him were quiet about it and never caught. My son didn't tattle and the school just had him pegged as a bad kid. if you met him now you would see a mature man who looks and is intelligent. Has a good job, Is well respected, has a wife who loves him dearly and respects him and has a lovely brilliant daughter who is autistic.

These are obstacles, but can be extremely useful and profitable. I would pay close attention to his special interests and encourage them. Hopefully some or at least one of them may help with his future. Gadgets ect. Putting things together. Electronics?

Sorry this was so long. If you need any help with the school system. I will help you. They can be brutal.
 
I'm sorry for the bother, but me and at least one other person on this forum (I'm sure of it) is incapable of reading such a large wall of text. If you could split it up into bite-sized chunks, me and that one other person (minimum) would be happy to read every word! Thank you and welcome! :)

I just read your entire post without realizing that this was the thread where I said this LOL

I probably don't have any suggestions you won't already do, judging by your post.

As long as you actually explain things instead of getting angry at everything done wrong or saying things like, "What's wrong with you?" or "Why can't you be normal?" then you've exceeded my expectations! :D
 
That was good Fino, but you always cracked me up. I just put funny. Hope that is okay. You also said some serious stuff that was really good too.

Fino, I broke it up... Right? Enough broke up?
 
That was good Fino, but you always cracked me up. I just put funny. Hope that is okay. You also said some serious stuff that was really good too.

Fino, I broke it up... Right? Enough broke up?

That took me about a full minute to understand! :eek: So you must have done somethin' wrong. :rolleyes:;)

I guess it's safe to assume that you are not the one other person I was referring to. :cool:
 
1/2 minute and then you understood me? Will you be my new therapist? I go through them like candy. I need someone whose not a quitter and willing to take on a challenge. :);)o_O:rolleyes::eek::cool:o_O;):):eek::eek::eek:

Am I allowed to quit and come back? Because I am a quitter, but I'm also a returner, it's kind of confusing.
 
Am I allowed to quit and come back? Because I am a quitter, but I'm also a returner, it's kind of confusing.
No, my therapists just quit. They don't come back. I wouldn't know how to deal with closure. Thanks for the offer though. o_O:rolleyes::oops::oops::D:p:cool::confused:;):)o_O:)
 
@Ginseng

I don't think it is a legal reg but I do think it is part of ethics maybe: therapists and docs aren't supposed to just quit. I think they are supposed to refer you to someone else when they are terminating you.

I had one kick me out over the phone!

This whole entire thread is a winner!!!
 

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