I am worried that if I tell people that I am ASD then it may destroy any chances I have. Although, this is what my support worker is telling me to do also but I am still anxious about it.
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Job rejection dealing..
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That is tricky, telling a potential employer about that could indeed make them look at you differently and not in a good way. I have done a few job interviews in the past and it can be difficult. I know I tend to be too focused on not doing or saying anything weird. Just too tense and worried about making mistakes. And people notice that. I guess it's all about being relaxed and having confidence.
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I did not know I had ASD when, I applied for jobs, I'm retired now at the time I realized I had unusual skills, so letting the person interviewing me know what I could for them seemed obvious knowing I have done it before.
I understand now where this unusual skill came from my ASD. having an aversion to lying I guess my body language told them I was not making things up or they could talk to my references who would confirm my unusual abilities.
I understand now where this unusual skill came from my ASD. having an aversion to lying I guess my body language told them I was not making things up or they could talk to my references who would confirm my unusual abilities.
It's not bragging when it's true. You can check my veracity on this site see my covid thread, I predicted when it would end over a year before and I was within a week. I Never doubted it as you can see reading it some others doubted it but I never did. that is power anybody would want to engage with notice I Also said it was air borne, also correct.
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Yes, so far my support worker has told me that it is up to me to tell people BUT she has also mentioned that it is usual for her to contact potential employers and current employers to let them know. I don’t now, this is very difficult for me because i understand the importance because being ASD here means that if you can work, they want you in work to prevent unemployment….BUT I worry about people and reactions…
I think I may have been too honest about some of the questions too. I got asked if I had a good time in my last job, and whilst i said i did that I learned a lot, maybe my reaction was negative….As for bragging, I did this also and maybe it was too much.
I could email to find out (I can’t make phonecalls) and that will end the wondering but I have to just get it that it does not affect my self worth.
I think the main problem is that if we mention ASD or anything at all to an employer, anything that's outside of what is known as "normal", there's always the chance that the employer will think we will be more difficult or take more time somehow. So the easiest thing and the best thing for the company is to just find someone 'normal'. To avoid potential problems. So I have always been careful about sharing too much info. It's a tricky situation I think.
Yes, this is one of my worries. =(
What Is your unusual Aspie skill? mine is visual thinking I can visualize processes in my head the real trick is know a lot about the process I get a warm feeling when I know i'm correct, gives me extreme confidence. With Covid I used statistics and a working hypothesis a friend passed on to me, never deviated from it all the facts fit got that warm feeling, never deviated or second guessed myself. now the proof is in the pudding. imagine someone like me working for you and having a track record. That what you have to sell. you quickly become the potential star employee that is not working for their competitor. I was known in my company for not making phone calls or using the paging system, they just thought it was a quirk apparently their star planner was the same I did not know until he retired. we are not that uncommon. this companies' logistics was extremely complex. people like us can make it work and make it look easy. he worked for fifty years was single. meet a divorced fellow employee just after he retired, weird she was my friend who I meet on first day after showing her how to put together a company control plan.
I never ever mentioned I had Asperger's at a job interview first of all I did not know I had it; I just knew after the plant tour I could fix their process. I was so confident in my track record from previous jobs I would state the obvious during the interview. a position I Got at an Assembly plant for pickup trucks I got by seeing an article in a trade magazine stating they wanted to try something new called reverse onus I just stated I was their guy and some of their current employees could vouch for my skills. Yes, I single Handly changed the auto motive assembly industry in how they paint and pretreat. I never doubted I would do it even before I got the job.
This is so important. We are so much more valuable than what our present jobs or pay would esteem us to be. @Owliet, what do focus on in life? What gives you meaning, inspires you, encourages you to press on? I was thinking, keeping ontrack in pursuing that/those thing(s) might help you get over this rejection a bit faster.
I simply fixed the issues the plant was a two-shift operation, I would start at 4 in the morning sometimes leave at 8 at night took a while to fix all the issues after eighteen months everything was corrected so I left my real interest was working with colour, here I was just working with chemicals. Paint company Reps supervisor stated I was the best process technician he had ever worked with. As I Helped his underling Fix the E-coat system which I was also familiar with having some previous experience. Confidence is everything do not second guess yourself.
My previous job was a very hostile work environment. The very idea of returning to that field of work, when I realized that that's what I had to start applying to (because I knew I could find work fast in that field) sent me sobbing unreconcilably for two days and withdrawing for a week. I did not want to return to my previous career field, mostly because of the experiences I had with other people.
I don't know how it was I did so well in the interview. I was calm, relaxed, and actually had the interview team in stitches several times. (And my husband says I'm not funny!) I didn't mean to get the job--I went because he insisted I find work fast. (So I did.) I think they're happy with me, too.
While my new job has a lot of similarities to my old job -- same field, same business entity type -- it is in no way like my old job. For one, the people here generally get my sense of humor (most people don't) and (for the most part--there are a few individuals I've steered clear of) seem to like and accept me. It's becoming a positive experience that I'm actually looking forward to going to.
Umm... it did help that I stimmed for an hour and a half before going in to the interview. And I had a 'heaven may care' attitude throughout. (Geesh. Who knew they'd like who they saw?!? Glad they did, though, I'm really liking being there.) I don't know if this is helpful to you or not.
That is something I've come up against at my new job. The first week there--I forget the exact topic--but I said "I can do that." To which my new supervisor said, "we hear that a lot." So she gave me a project to work on without directions, to see just what I could do, and I caught 2 or 3 errors that she and another accountant missed. (The count is somewhat debatable as it depends on the workplace's interpretation of a certain rule.) That without having any guidelines on what they were looking for.
She was encouraged.
But the end of my probation is another 5 months away. I hope I keep amazing them throughout.
(I am trying very hard not to say, "I've done that/can do that" though. It seems to bring out the skeptical side of her, which I'm sure is not me but her own prior experiences. Instead, I'm trying to say, "oh, well why don't you show me?" It accomplishes the same thing without appearing confrontational or over-confident.)
The assembly job was very high pressure, a line shut down cost millions, I guess because of my condition I handle emotions well Angry people do not bother me. so, the pressure was not an issue. The paint area manager was a real tyrant.
Something that was brought to my attention recently was that it is not wrong to let people be aware of difficulties you may be having and to seek accommodation to overcome those difficulties. That you have a support worker who is willing to step up and help tells me that she sees in you that your need for her services is legitimate. I'd bring up my concerns to her and talk them out. is it a sense of independence that keeps you from fully using her services? Or, maybe it's that you do not want your potential employer to know you have ASD?
In my case, if I knew for sure that I was ASD, I probably would not tell my employer unless I thought it would make some positive impact on my potential job performance. Although, I wish I had known when I was at the evil job. I've been told that sharing a diagnosis wouldn't have helped--but there's a part of me that wonders if management would have backed up some in their verbally hostile attacks.
Role play. I think someone else said that here, too. It's likely that you're not too honest but telling them too much. At least, that's my big fault. A recruiter friend spent an afternoon role-playing interview questions with me. She then commented on how my answers would be taken/interpreted by an interviewer (as opposed to what I thought I was saying) and made some major suggestions on how I should approach such questions in the future. For me, it all came down to this principle: "less is more."
Yeah, not making phone calls might be a bit of a stumbling block. Is it a mechanical/access limitation or an aversion to sort of limitation? If it's the latter, role-playing this out might be a huge help for you, too.
I'm glad you've posted about this. I am considering pursuing a diagnosis but don't want my employer to know.
If @Owliet can get by without her employer knowing, perhaps the better.
Unfortunately, my former employers found out normal does not usually work outdoes not give them a competitive advantage. My brother a fellow Aspie saved his company millions electronics company making electronic parts for the automotive industry Philco- Ford he worked in the Maintenace department I worked at the Ford truck plant for a Supplier Henkel. Neither one of us were normal. I Think in the last few years some companies are starting to make the connection some of their best performing employees are on the spectrum and what makes us unique makes their plant or company unique.
Something to keep in mind is that conventional interviews aren't about determining if someone can do a given job, but are more of a test of one's interviewing skills and ability to build rapport with the interviewers.
I've had a situation where I've applied to the same job at two different locations and so had interviews with two different teams, and was rejected on one, and scored highly on another time, with the same application and same interview questions and answers.
As someone mentioned earlier, things can be very subjective, and as my example shows, you may have done nothing wrong, and in fact, might have done well.
When you get to the interview stage, there must have been something the organization liked in you.
In other words, you didn't fail the interview, the interview failed you, and that's their loss.
I've had a situation where I've applied to the same job at two different locations and so had interviews with two different teams, and was rejected on one, and scored highly on another time, with the same application and same interview questions and answers.
As someone mentioned earlier, things can be very subjective, and as my example shows, you may have done nothing wrong, and in fact, might have done well.
When you get to the interview stage, there must have been something the organization liked in you.
In other words, you didn't fail the interview, the interview failed you, and that's their loss.
I remember years ago there was a software company in Denmark, "The Specialists", that only hired people with autism. That was unusual and they did very well.
Software Company Only Hires People who Have Autism
At first glance, Specilisterne looks just like any other thriving software company. However, these colleagues had to meet a certain job requirement in order to get hired – autism.
I googled them and they seem to have grown, they are in several countries now.
I'm not surprised some companies are catching on, only issue limited supply.I remember years ago there was a software company in Denmark, "The Specialists", that only hired people with autism. That was unusual and they did very well.
Software Company Only Hires People who Have Autism
At first glance, Specilisterne looks just like any other thriving software company. However, these colleagues had to meet a certain job requirement in order to get hired – autism.abcnews.go.com
I googled them and they seem to have grown, they are in several countries now.
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