Islam and Narcissism

[Markness]

Allah will stop it.

In Islam we ask Allah for help and we Worship Him. We Believe Allah is superior over The Law.

If Allah and his people start to "speak the truth", society would collapse rightfully. You know people hate the Truth, right? And that's OK. But Allah helps us with control.

Then why do criminals often get away with their crimes and some are never caught?

That’s no different than any one from a particular religion asking whatever god or gods they worship for help. Jews, Christians, Hindus, etc. all do that and they often think laws are inspired by their gods. What makes Islam special?

Why do you want society to collapse? There are non-religious people who think religions go against logic and reason so the “truth” is going to vary from person to person. I’d rather people learn to think and act critically.

 

[lunarious]

Muslims believe life is "a test".

Edit:

Why do you want society to collapse? There are non-religious people who think religions go against logic and reason so the “truth” is going to vary from person to person. I’d rather people learn to think and act critically.

I do not care, in a way if society collapse, since i would maybe have good-er life without it. Like a cave-dweller. I want however that Truth prevails in a Technocrasy where technology informs us.

The ways things are with 1) The rope of God and 2) The rope of Humans looks fine

What makes Islam special?

Truth ... i'm not so familiar with other books, a little with Bible
(edit) I'm reading chapter 26 in Qur'an. Chapter 26 verse 2 says: "These are the verses of the Book that makes (things) clear."

 

[Mary Terry]

In response to your, "I wanted to punish/help them for punishing me." is the "turn the other cheek" quote from the New Testament

AI Overview

The phrase "turn the other cheek" comes from the Sermon on the Mount in the Gospel of Matthew, specifically Matthew 5:38-42. It is part of Jesus's teaching on non-retaliation, where he instructs his followers not to resist an evil person. The passage reads: "You have heard that it was said, 'Eye for eye, and tooth for tooth.' But I tell you, do not resist an evil person. If anyone slaps you on the right cheek, turn to them the other cheek also". This teaching is also found in Luke 6:29, where Jesus says, "To one who strikes you on the cheek, offer the other also".

In more detail:

• Matthew 5:38-42:
  Jesus contrasts his teaching with the Old Testament principle of "an eye for an eye".He encourages his followers to respond to violence and injustice with non-resistance and even generosity.
  
  
• Luke 6:29:
  This verse echoes the sentiment of Matthew 5:39, emphasizing the call to offer the other cheek when struck.
  
  
• Meaning:
  The phrase "turn the other cheek" is often interpreted as a call to non-violence and a rejection of the cycle of revenge. It encourages a response of mercy and love, even when wronged. Some scholars also suggest it is a way to shame the aggressor by demonstrating a refusal to engage in a violent conflict.
  
  
• Context:
  It's important to understand the context of these verses. Jesus was speaking to his disciples and followers, emphasizing the need for a transformed heart and a radical approach to love and forgiveness.

Surely you realize that @lunarious is a Muslim? He might better understand your point if you could quote from the Koran, not the Bible.

 

[Coxhere]

Then why do criminals often get away with their crimes and some are never caught?

That’s no different than any one from a particular religion asking whatever god or gods they worship for help. Jews, Christians, Hindus, etc. all do that and they often think laws are inspired by their gods. What makes Islam special?

Why do you want society to collapse? There are non-religious people who think religions go against logic and reason so the “truth” is going to vary from person to person. I’d rather people learn to think and act critically.

There are "Christians" who want the world to end so that they go to heaven and those not like them will go to hell. Not exactly what I would call very loving.

AI Overview

According to Christian scripture, specifically 1 John 4:20, if someone claims to love God but hates their brother, they are considered a liar. The verse emphasizes that love for God is demonstrated through love for others. Therefore, hating a brother or sister contradicts the claim of loving God.


The rationale behind this is that if one cannot love a visible person, it's logically inconsistent to claim love for an invisible being (God).The verse highlights that genuine love for God is intrinsically linked to love for others, implying that true faith is not just an internal belief but also manifests in practical love and compassion towards fellow humans.

 

[Coxhere]

Surely you realize that @lunarious is a Muslim? He might better understand your point if you could quote from the Koran, not the Bible.

#1) I'm very aware that lunarious is Muslim. #2) He's already said that he is aware of the Christian Bible. #3) It doesn't take a Bible scholar to understand that there can be a different kind of love than what the world teaches. I don't know the Koran. However, #4) all major religions are similar in their understanding of what love is. #5) I imagine that lunarious thought of similar passages in the Koran by merely reading the quote from the Bible. #6) My "point" is universal.

 

[Mary Terry]

#1) I'm very aware that lunarious is Muslim. #2) He's already said that he is aware of the Christian Bible. #3) It doesn't take a Bible scholar to understand that there can be a different kind of love than what the world teaches. I don't know the Koran. However, #4) all major religions are similar in their understanding of what love is. #5) I imagine that lunarious thought of similar passages in the Koran by merely reading the quote from the Bible. #6) My "point" is universal.

I'm familiar with the fact that Muslims are supposed to adhere to the Koran, probably much like Lunarious' realization that Christians are supposed to adhere to the Bible, but that doesn't mean he is going to be persuaded or converted by someone quoting Biblical passages to him, any more than I'd be persuaded or converted by his quoting the Koran to me.

I googled what the Koran says about forgiveness and found very little there when compared to what the Bible says. Maybe @lunarious can shed some light on what his religion says about the topic.

 

[lunarious]

I'm familiar with the fact that Muslims are supposed to adhere to the Koran, probably much like Lunarious' realization that Christians are supposed to adhere to the Bible, but that doesn't mean he is going to be persuaded or converted by someone quoting Biblical passages to him, any more than I'd be persuaded or converted by his quoting the Koran to me.

That's kind and called for. Descriptive.

I googled what the Koran says about forgiveness and found very little there when compared to what the Bible says. Maybe @lunarious can shed some light on what his religion says about the topic.

This is cruel and non-inquiring and arrogant and called for. also Descriptive.

I created this post and other posts where i'm treated with non-kindness, so i called for you. I think I must for-give you all as Muslim. The Bible appearently has non-Forgiving combination of words.

 

[lunarious]

@Mary Terry You want to give me likes

Edit: I might respect the Bible by your actions as Christians

 

[Dagan]

Narcissism per any religion is easy to spot. Do they never once believe they are wrong or ever can be? Narcissists. Do they force their beliefs on others, even if they do it in scheming (perceived as nice) ways? Narcissists. Do they make blatant mistakes or huge retcons and never once acknowledge any of it, and they just keep going about business like it was "nothing - everything is perfect" ...but if you make mistakes in the slightest, they give you almost never-ending crap about it? Narcissists. Do they suppress you having questions, doubts or outside the box, critical thinking in any way, shape or form? Narcissists. Do they try to control your socio-political status (who, how, when or if you can interact with anyone outside of your belief system)? Narcissists.

Religions are supposed to teach love but mostly don't. Love has one rule: to love. And simply to love is logically not say, think or do horrible things because it's just simply that way. Baseline, logical and common sense easy. Not complex at all.

Narcissism isn't love and only focuses on its many rules: Don't think...don't say...don't be...don't do...don't consider...don't ponder...don't disobey...don't like or love (this, that, who, where, when, how, etc.)

Read every religious text in full. Soak in full understanding of all sermons. Make a list of them all with two columns: love - or - narcissism. You'll figure it out.

 

[Coxhere]

That's kind and called for. Descriptive.


This is cruel and non-inquiring and arrogant and called for. also Descriptive.

I created this post and other posts where i'm treated with non-kindness, so i called for you. I think I must for-give you all as Muslim. The Bible appearently has non-Forgiving combination of words.

I'm familiar with the fact that Muslims are supposed to adhere to the Koran, probably much like Lunarious' realization that Christians are supposed to adhere to the Bible, but that doesn't mean he is going to be persuaded or converted by someone quoting Biblical passages to him, any more than I'd be persuaded or converted by his quoting the Koran to me.

I googled what the Koran says about forgiveness and found very little there when compared to what the Bible says. Maybe @lunarious can shed some light on what his religion says about the topic.

Ah. Here it is.
The Quran emphasizes forgiveness and returning evil with good (Qur'an 41:34). This concept is similar to the idea of turning the other cheek, though not expressed in the same exact words.

 

[lunarious]

Qur'an 26:03 You are liable to imperil your life [out of distress] that they will not have faith.

Must i forgive you? ... again? (edit) again because i've been suffocated to Defenestration once. (edit) yes i guess, i must, because i'm under Force ...

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You can be Christian or Jew, but i do not endorse Force.

At one point i said to them ~: "I don't understand you are putting me under Force, but if you are Christian or Muslim then it's OK".

Chapter Joseph, he says: "Prison is more dear to me than disobeying Allah". ... in Josephs (pbuh) footsteps I sought prison instead of recieving an injection in my butt.

Disobeying Allah might be through using Force. I understand though non-Christians and non-Jews are less civilised and prone to using Force.

QFT: Many Muslims are bad.