I have decided on the purpose of my life.. Write Altruist Kampf the way Ayn wrote the opposite...

[AspiePie]

I have realized that what we call autism is the altruist trait and I have realized that Ayn Rand in her books was writing a Mein Kampf against us the way Hitler wrote his against the Jews... Ayn Rand writes what she believes to be our ultimate goal in Anthem and writes her plan to destroy us in Atlas Shrugged as well as enslave all the Neurotypicals... All her books collected together are a Mein Kampf against Aspies for Psychopaths like herself... We are lions and psychopaths are hyenas.. Mortal enemies which must do battle... Psychopaths have made altruism look bad... How do we turn the tables?

Altruist/Aspie = Pure Good

Psychopath = Pure Evil

 

[wanderer03]

Since the publication of Atlas Shrugged, Ayn Rand has since recanted much of her views. She became sick and realized socialism is not bad and that we all need help from time to time.

 

[AspiePie]

Since the publication of Atlas Shrugged, Ayn Rand has since recanted much of her views. She became sick and realized socialism is not bad and that we all need help from time to time.

Proof... Your telling me Psychopaths can change and learn empathy?

 

[wanderer03]

I don't necessarily think she is psychopathic. She is just the penultimate libertarian or used to be at any rate. I think she got humbled when life forced a set of circumstances upon her.

 

[AspiePie]

I don't necessarily think she is psychopathic. She is just the penultimate libertarian or used to be at any rate. I think she got humbled when life forced a set of circumstances upon her.

I have read her and I can tell you she thought having empathy made you inferior and so do her followers... She very much not only sounds like a psychopath but a psychopath supremacist?

 

[wanderer03]

I would not consider Ayn Rand to be intelligent enough to be a psychpath. She tends to "fire from the hip" a bit. A psychopath is one whom is very controlled and calculated with intelligence well above average.

 

[AspiePie]

I would not consider Ayn Rand to be intelligent enough to be a psychpath. She tends to "fire from the hip" a bit. A psychopath is one whom is very controlled and calculated with intelligence well above average.

Yes but not having empathy is basic trait called Psychopathy... And she said she did not feel empathy and she was also very manipulative.. Something which I have been accused of being despite not having that trait at all?

 

[wanderer03]

Don't mistake me. I'm no fan of Ayn Rand.

 

[AspiePie]

Don't mistake me. I'm no fan of Ayn Rand.

I wasn't accusing you of being one.. I was saying you seem not to understand Psychopathy....

 

[wanderer03]

Yes but not having empathy is basic trait called Psychopathy... And she said she did not feel empathy and she was also very manipulative.. Something which I have been accused of being despite not having that trait at all?

I'm betting that you do have empathy. It is evidenced in your words. You may not always express it, but it's nonetheless present. People on the spectrum may just not always express feelings accurately.

 

[wanderer03]

I wasn't accusing you of being one.. I was saying you seem not to understand Psychopathy....

Nor do you because Psychopathy implies high intelligence, patience, and calculation. I belive Rand to be more of a sociopath than a true psychopath.

 

[AspiePie]

Nor do you because Psychopathy implies high intelligence, patience, and calculation. I belive Rand to be more of a sociopath than a true psychopath.

There are a lot of shrinks who argue those are the exact same thing...

 

[wanderer03]

As I learned it, a sociopath lacks empathy but is impatient, prone to outburst, and has, at best, average intelligence.

 

[AspiePie]

As I learned it, a sociopath lacks empathy but is impatient, prone to outburst, and has, at best, average intelligence.

Welp.. Yeah but she was quite creative... And she did figure out a way to vilify empathy.... How did she learn empathy is what I would like to know.. Cuz if empathy is teachable skill then I have my first answer to how heal the world?

 

[laurag9g9g9]

Yes but not having empathy is basic trait called Psychopathy... And she said she did not feel empathy and she was also very manipulative.. Something which I have been accused of being despite not having that trait at all?

It's also a trait of a narcissist

 

[AspiePie]

It's also a trait of a narcissist

Narcissism isn't that bad... Most creative or intelligent are narcissistic to some degree....

 

[Bellatrix]

Wanderer03, why are you discussing Ayn Rand in the present tense? She died in 1982.

 

[Bellatrix]

The difference between psychopaths and sociopaths - psychopaths tend to act out their warped fantasies, and care little for the consequences of their actions (like prison), although they will still do all they can to ensure they aren't caught in order to continue doing what it is that the rest of us so strongly disapprove of. Sociopaths are more manipulative, they know that what they are doing is wrong, but they will generally not engage in behaviour that is actually illegal (unlike the psychopath, who doesn't care about this). Both groups of people will do what they can to stay on top and in control, but the psychopath tends to be more reckless in his (it's almost always a 'he') behaviour: it's more overt, more obviously outside the norm.

Ayn Rand was a sociopath, not a psychopath.

 

[Professori]

I tend to agree with wanderer03 in that life will reveal the true self, and the humbling circumstances we face will certainly play the role in that. You probably will not enoy my comment on Rand, but I think that we place far too much emphasis on what people write as being truth, especially when they write about themselves.

Authors can quite easily slip into an artifical world when they write, and I have no doubt that Rand did the same when she wrote about herself. However, the truth of who she really was came out in reality and she then had to contradict what she had written earlier. Reality is difficult to face.

Take note of Dodgson (Lewis Carroll) in this regard and 'Alice in wonderland'. The claims made in this regard have been astounding.