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I am very desperate

saigetic

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Hi. My name is saige. (Not in real life but online)

I'm new here because i'm desperate. I think something is wrong with me. I can feel it. I still live with my parents who you'd think would try and help me but they don't. They complain and complain and complain, call me autistic and the r-slur, tell me how frustrating the things i do are, yet all of the time they never tell me exactly what i'm doing wrong. They've never taken me for an evaluation and use the word autistic as a sort of insult, alongside the slur, as if it's just this disgusting, inconveniencing thing. They take every opportunity they can to tell me how stuck up my butt my head is and how embarrassing i act for my age, but do they do anything about it besides that? No. I'm stuck here without any sort of professional help with parents who have never asked me how i am when i'm very obviously depressed or demotivated or tired, when i don't shower or engage in any sort of hygiene for weeks on end or get up to do much of anything. They've even explicitly said getting an evaluation would be useless because "what would they do?".. so i guess support and therapy doesn't exist. They don't even want to take me to therapy since they're scared i'll tell the therapists how they treat me and cps will get involved, but they also say that i have it good and they don't hurt me or anything so i don't see why they'd get so defensive.

I'm in this constant state of insecurity that something i could do might offend them or be generally the wrong thing to have done. I don't know if it's just frustrating to them or if it would be frustrating to people in public, but i wouldn't know the latter because i mask in public because i hate how i act. I hate everything about it. I hate how i talk, how i get so sensitive and intense over things, how i forget things so incredibly easily, how i can never tell what social cues mean, how overwhelmed i get when it's too loud or overall overstimulating, and the list goes on. i'll put a list i made of the things i deal with at the end of this but just know my parents have quite literally never given me advice or anything to help me get better. They just judge. It's nothing besides them making rude comments about how i act, no matter how significantly i may have acted. I feel like i'm in the wrong all of the time and i'm too stupid to see that I'm doing something wrong so i can just fix it and every time i try and ask what i did wrong they're like "you're just so.. ughhh i don't know. Just stop." stop what?? What am i meant to be stopping?? You clearly know so much abput my mental state so tell me how to FIX IT-

anyways i looked up some online communities i could use and.. here i am. i really hope to seek some refuge here since i don't have any support systems in real life. I've been going through a depressive episode for the last month and a half and it's only gotten worse. I hit a year clean in July of this year but I've seriously considered destroying my clean streak recently. My parents dont help, i doubt anyone else in my family would, so it's just me. I've never managed to sustain real life friendships, and online ones have always been very brief or just not strong at all. I homeschool and live in a very rural area in a city of merely 500 people. I can't just go out and make friends or talk to anyone in school.

pretty much my only motivation for staying here is my pets and my four younger sisters, which i'm the oldest of. My pets wouldn't be able to comprehend my sudden disappearance and i would hate for my youngest little sister to grow up wondering why she never got to meet me and having to be told what i did, or the two older ones spending their childhood with the fresh knowledge that i had done that, though the second-oldest kind of seems irritated at me as much as my parents whenever i do stuff. that aside, i do have some things to live for still, but its gotten so bad i'm blinded by that sometimes.



anyways, all that crap aside, i guess i'll put some information about myself down here.

-i'm very very interested in insects, i absolutely love them. I plan to be an entomologist solely because one day i snapped out of the whole 'ew bugs are bad and gross and dangerous' mindset and grew probably too hyperfixated on them.

-i love the color green. I do not mean that lightly at all, i LOVE. the color green. if my blood could be green i'd want green blood. (Besides that neutral browns and nature-y tones are cool too)

-i was born with this thing called craniosynostosis which resulted in me having to have five surgeries up until i was five years old (i missed preschool :,)) which resulted in a large scar on my head (that now works very well as a headset dent), a scar on my side, and a scar under my right eye that has pretty much caused the entire right side of my face to be crooked. It never gets easy to get used to.

-i enjoy drawing, going outside to look at insects and critters, playing video games (a very select few that aren't overly long and time consuming, or have some kind of long strenuous stressful story you have to follow with multiple endings, or demand you play for hours on end to get good at, I really like epic minigames on roblox), corbids, seals, animals in general, the glitch productions shows Murder Drones and TADC, and the MCU

-my favorite types of music are some occasional jumpstyle, vocaloid, FEMTANYL's music, baroque pop (i like army dreamers by kate bush so i assume thats what it is), tally hall, and it honestly varies a lot so i never really stick to one style.

there are some other things about me but that's the basics. Just wanted to post this introduction here so maybe i can get acquainted with some people since i sincerely need someone to reach out to, even if i'm not autistic. have a good day!

here's the list of symptoms by the way:

  • nervousness + panic if something sudden comes up and i didnt know beforehand where we were going and my routine gets thrown off
  • really really strong interests and fixations, sometimes making real responsibilities difficult to focus on
  • incredibly sensitive emotions
  • getting too loud and intense over small things
  • shutting down whenever i'm overwhelmed (by something i have to do, something already going on, etc) and pretty much feeling tired and unable to move
  • getting overwhelmed by certain noises and stimuli (i.e. the school moment)
  • hearing background noises (humming, talking, etc) much louder than the thing i need to focus on
  • struggling to focus
  • incredibly forgetful, forgetting things that i was just told
  • struggle to complete a task in one go without getting distracted (sometimes it takes me hours to do a task)
  • only feeling motivated to do things i'm interested in as opposed to chores
  • fidgeting with stuff
  • picking scabs on skin
  • inability to sit still, needing to kick legs or tap foot or move or something
  • inability to detect sarcasm or joking, taking everything wayy too seriously
  • caring too much about how other people feel
  • unable to read the room and take social cues as to whether or not i should act a certain way
  • blurting out things that are sometimes too honest or even rude to say, or unfit for the situation
  • butting in to conversations or trying to share something to someone actively conversing
  • anxiety over little things, as well as just random anxiety
  • needing certain stuffed animals to sleep with
  • enjoying being in cozy, compressed/tight spots
  • brain sometimes moves faster than my mouth which causes me to sometimes slur words together or mumble
  • quite intense anger if something even little irritates me, feeling the need to lash out
  • obnoxiously loud yelling if something even slightly distressing happens
  • getting upset when people don't listen to me talking about my interests, even if they were busy beforehand
  • often lack of energy, lack of showering often or proper hygiene
  • upsetness when yelled at, or even slightly chided
  • demotivation/sadness throughout the day
  • harmful thoughts after being rebuked even slightly, usually involving harming self or committed sewer-slide.
  • clinging to rude things said to me, or things i said that were rude, still feeling guilty even years later and dwelling on them
  • crying over little things
  • needing more and more and more clarification for something said
  • hand flapping, jumping, squealing when happy or excited, sometimes unconsciously
  • t-rex arms while walking, also an unconscious effort
  • vocal stims like repeating random phrases over and over again, even when i don't realize I'm doing it, since it makes me feel comforted sometimes or relaxed if i'm nervous, or it just feels nice
 
HELLO AND WELCOME. How I wish you were not feeling that way.

By the way, I saw that you like insects. Twice a year I lead a team on a local river for my Conservation District where we collect macroinvertebrates, mainly insect larvae, for a measure of the stream's health. Once collected I assist in identifying them to the Family level where each family has a score for their sensitivity to stream conditions, lack of oxygen, and pollutants. I would like to have somebody like you on my team. Last Saturday I had fun teaching people collection techniques and we all had a great time.

On to something more germane. Please do not think that there is something wrong with you. What you see are not failings. Understand that there is a mismatch between your perceptions as well as responses, and society's messages that support socially adept NTs. In my case I felt inadequate because societal expectations of masculinity didn’t align with my values. You do not deserve to be scolded for your neurology. If you are in school, perhaps you can talk to a counselor who can provide you with guidance or point you in the right direction to obtain help in understanding yourself and being authentic. I was intelligent, perceptive, sensitive and authentic at an age when my peers rarely considered those positive traits. You may need to, like me, work for yourself so that you maintain your authenticity even as you are getting messages from others that you are less than. Parents doing that to you is especially destructive. Do not hate yourself. Some of that may be anger as a means of protecting yourself. For me, my anxiety and withdrawal was the best I could do to protect myself from rejection and feeling overwhelmed in an attempt to protect my self esteem. A counselor can help you sort that out. There are resources now that were unavailable to me in the '60s and '70s. I hope that you can get some guidance in navigating the rocky shoals of social engagement. You deserve to be a whole and valued person because out there somewhere is a person who will see you and accept you when you maintain your authenticity. You just need guidance in how to engage positively. It is something that you can learn and quite different from masking where you go along to get along. I'd like to see you positive.
 
Hi Saige and welcome to Autism Forums! It's sad to hear your life isn't going well. Besides autism, it sounds like you might be experiencing childhood emotional neglect (which refers to parents meeting your physical needs but neglecting your emotional needs), which can explain many of the symptoms you listed. While being homeschooled and living in a rural area limits your options, you can still get help even if therapy is not available. There are many good self-help books that can teach you the same information that people pay a therapist to learn. If you search Amazon for "emotional intelligence" and sort price from low to high, you will find that electronic versions of some of these self-help books are free, which means you don't need a credit card to order them and can start reading them right away. Search for depression, anxiety, childhood emotional neglect, social skills, CBT, autism, or whatever issue you're having and see if there is a free book available on that topic. There are other websites that also provide free books or free limited online CBT (cognitive behavioral therapy). If you have access to a local library, the librarian should be able to help you find some good books.
 
HELLO AND WELCOME. How I wish you were not feeling that way.

By the way, I saw that you like insects. Twice a year I lead a team on a local river for my Conservation District where we collect macroinvertebrates, mainly insect larvae, for a measure of the stream's health. Once collected I assist in identifying them to the Family level where each family has a score for their sensitivity to stream conditions, lack of oxygen, and pollutants. I would like to have somebody like you on my team. Last Saturday I had fun teaching people collection techniques and we all had a great time.

On to something more germane. Please do not think that there is something wrong with you. What you see are not failings. Understand that there is a mismatch between your perceptions as well as responses, and society's messages that support socially adept NTs. In my case I felt inadequate because societal expectations of masculinity didn’t align with my values. You do not deserve to be scolded for your neurology. If you are in school, perhaps you can talk to a counselor who can provide you with guidance or point you in the right direction to obtain help in understanding yourself and being authentic. I was intelligent, perceptive, sensitive and authentic at an age when my peers rarely considered those positive traits. You may need to, like me, work for yourself so that you maintain your authenticity even as you are getting messages from others that you are less than. Parents doing that to you is especially destructive. Do not hate yourself. Some of that may be anger as a means of protecting yourself. For me, my anxiety and withdrawal was the best I could do to protect myself from rejection and feeling overwhelmed in an attempt to protect my self esteem. A counselor can help you sort that out. There are resources now that were unavailable to me in the '60s and '70s. I hope that you can get some guidance in navigating the rocky shoals of social engagement. You deserve to be a whole and valued person because out there somewhere is a person who will see you and accept you when you maintain your authenticity. You just need guidance in how to engage positively. It is something that you can learn and quite different from masking where you go along to get along. I'd like to see you positive.
ooh that sounds interesting! I really hope to be able to do stuff like that if i can get into college within the next couple years, which has been quite hard catching up in homeschooling stuff, specifically geometry since i went through a rough patch where my mind just wouldn't grasp it. It's slightly better now that i switched curriculums just for geometry, but still tricky. lucky for me entomology won't have to be based *just* around math even if its still required

Also i truly appreciate your words. I cant currently get a counseler though due to being homeschooled, or a therapist since i'm not yet a legal adult, though i am in the age range where i can drive. For now i genuinely don't have any form of therapy or doctor to go to by myself unless my parents were to take me to a psychiatrist or something, which is quite unlikely. I've improved just a little over the years in terms of sensitivity and other stuff but it is still pretty bad and it's gotten worse with the recent depressive episode i've been having
It's very difficult to get along on my own with parents who don't seem to be insightful about my feelings, aswell. They should be my main source of support and they aren't and that whole thing can really screw a person up

genuinely though i'll try and take your advice as much as i can. maybe i can start surviving a little better, as much as someone stuck in her parents' house for the next couple years without a support system can. I'd like to see myself positive as well, and gosh i really hope that happens soon because it's really not getting any better

best wishes, thanks for your comment! 🫂
 
Hi Saige and welcome to Autism Forums! It's sad to hear your life isn't going well. Besides autism, it sounds like you might be experiencing childhood emotional neglect (which refers to parents meeting your physical needs but neglecting your emotional needs), which can explain many of the symptoms you listed. While being homeschooled and living in a rural area limits your options, you can still get help even if therapy is not available. There are many good self-help books that can teach you the same information that people pay a therapist to learn. If you search Amazon for "emotional intelligence" and sort price from low to high, you will find that electronic versions of some of these self-help books are free, which means you don't need a credit card to order them and can start reading them right away. Search for depression, anxiety, childhood emotional neglect, social skills, CBT, autism, or whatever issue you're having and see if there is a free book available on that topic. There are other websites that also provide free books or free limited online CBT (cognitive behavioral therapy). If you have access to a local library, the librarian should be able to help you find some good books.
there is actually a library not too far from my town, maybe i can find something next time i go with my mom. I really don't want her to notice too much though since i fear she'll get mad at me if she sees me buying a book about childhood emotional neglect since, again (i think i said this) she gets very defensive over the idea of possibly being thought of as a child abuser or neglecter and won't let me into therapy because of it

on another note, i'm still really struggling to accept all of this. so far everyone i've read replies of online (including another forum i was on for a brief amount of time but then i realized it was 18+ so i had to leave)have all said this is considered neglect and it's not normal but for my entire life i've been so numb to it that i didn't even realize that. and now it's all kinda weighing on me at once and it's a lot to take in but i feel like part of me kind of knew anyways and was just too scared to admit it. having so many people be so supportive has comforted me tenthousandfold though. isolation has really made things worse and even if you and others are just random strangers on the internet it still kinda lightens the weight off of my shoulders just a little :,)

i will see what i can do though, with the books and whatnot. thanks for the advice! i really hope the next couple years won't be so bad if i can make things just a little easier for me to cope
 
ooh that sounds interesting! I really hope to be able to do stuff like that if i can get into college within the next couple years, which has been quite hard catching up in homeschooling stuff, specifically geometry since i went through a rough patch where my mind just wouldn't grasp it. It's slightly better now that i switched curriculums just for geometry, but still tricky. lucky for me entomology won't have to be based *just* around math even if its still required

Also i truly appreciate your words. I cant currently get a counseler though due to being homeschooled, or a therapist since i'm not yet a legal adult, though i am in the age range where i can drive. For now i genuinely don't have any form of therapy or doctor to go to by myself unless my parents were to take me to a psychiatrist or something, which is quite unlikely. I've improved just a little over the years in terms of sensitivity and other stuff but it is still pretty bad and it's gotten worse with the recent depressive episode i've been having
It's very difficult to get along on my own with parents who don't seem to be insightful about my feelings, aswell. They should be my main source of support and they aren't and that whole thing can really screw a person up

genuinely though i'll try and take your advice as much as i can. maybe i can start surviving a little better, as much as someone stuck in her parents' house for the next couple years without a support system can. I'd like to see myself positive as well, and gosh i really hope that happens soon because it's really not getting any better

best wishes, thanks for your comment! 🫂
I am happy to hear that you are doing your best to help yourself. It is hard. I grew up at a time when autism was never diagnosed and so had to learn to cope by myself (sorta like you with unsupportive parents). What helped me was my parents training me to be independent and as self sufficient as possible (with appropriate help). It was a critical piece in learning to like myself, along with my interests. That really helped me grow.

FYI my bible for identification with dichotomous keys down to the family is the Guide to Aquatic Invertebrates of the Upper Midwest Guide to Aquatic Invertebrates of the Upper Midwest | Chironomidae Research Group
I enjoy getting back into taxonomy as this is the basis of understanding biology. If there is a Conservation District near you that has sampling days they may need help and you may enjoy that. I like doing citizen science. We sample twice a year and upload the data to a state site. Michigan's Natural Resources Department only has resources to sample each river once every 5 years. Data costs money and our data provides information to make informed decisions by our government. Last Saturday I was surprised at a site when we got a lot of sensitive insect larvae; free living Caddis (Philopotamidae), Giant Stoneflies (Pteronarcyidae), and Clubtail Dragonflies (Gomphidae), Hellgrammites (Corydalidae) along with the usual Mayflies.
 
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Welcome. I'm sorry you are feeling so rotten, but it won't last forever. Those teen years are really tough. I didn't have supportive parents either. Believe in yourself. You don't have to justify yourself to your parents. Don't try to make them agree with you because they won't. It's a waste of time. Just hunker down and get through these next couple of years.

Please keep coming here. We are supportive. We may no longer be teens, but we all were at one time.
 
Hello and welcome!

but they also say that i have it good and they don't hurt me or anything so i don't see why they'd get so defensive.
You do not have it 100% good with your parents and you DO have a right to feel hurt and upset.

Sounds like they love you and provide you basic needs and extras like entertainment; which is awesome...so in those ways you do have it good. But those arent all the ways things can be good or bad for you...

The shaming and refusing to get you help is psychological abuse and a severe form of neglect.

And just so you know or to remind you (i suspect you may already know this:_), that same line of something like "Quit complaining, look at all we do for you! You have nothing to complain about!" That same line is used by parents who beat their children, but are otherwise loving and caring the rest of the time in the rest of the ways. That line is ridiculous, not valid. It's meant to change topics to move away from your valid grievance and deflect blame back onto you.

Completely unrelated (ie not apologies for bad treatment, not amends/repair) good treatment things do not magically erase harmful abuse things.

Just because they treat you well in some ways does not cancel out the mistreatment (that sounds very much like child abuse).

I say this because you deserve help, and emotional safety and support - all youth do.

And because I so hope you can fight againt believing the hurtful and demeaning things they say to you.

Disability is nothing to be ashamed of.

The way your parents put you down and use "autistic" and "r-word" as insults -- those are things to be ashamed of.

You just being you and having differences and difficulties, that is NOT sonething to be ashamed of.

If you are autistic (or not autistic but struggle with the things you struggle with) that is okay. You have just as much value as anybody else, all the good and bad and neutral about you.

It is not okay that your parents are mean to you.
 
If you love GREEN you are in the right place!

Thank you for sharing this, I can relate to lots of it and sorry you are going through it, but remember as other people are saying that this does not have to be something for the rest of your life. I would say go ahead and fixate on your interest in bugs, find your joy there because it is what brings you happiness. For autistics it is often our interests and preoccupations that get us through very difficult times. It is difficult hearing how your family uses autistic as a derogatory terms. I wonder what might happen if when you are criticized you were to just leave the room. My own mother used to be extremely critical, and I I finally just started getting up and walking away without saying anything when things would fall into that...it made an impression, made me feel stronger, and she seemed to respect me more.
 
I wish I could press a reset button and let your life go better. It's good that you see that you can reach out and aren't afraid to do it. That shows some good motivation and resourcefulness. I'm definitely rooting for you!

My parents were wonderful, but I was born too early for them to have any clue whatsoever about low-support-needs autism. No one in the US had a clue about it yet. Home life was great - school, not so much. I don't remember if anyone told me, but somehow I thought telling my parents or teachers about the bullying wouldn't help any.

I learned to mask almost well enough to pass as "normal", but it took a lot of work, and I needed a lot of alone time to recharge. I figured I was just broken and it would take more work to do what everyone else could do. It took decades to learn why I was the way I was.

You at least have an idea what you're dealing with while you can use the information before you have to learn to get by by trial and error. I hope it helps you to know that you can eventually get to a good place.
 
Welcome to the community. Sorry to hear of the distress your parents are causing you. Here's hoping some members here have helpful ideas (this sort of situation is not my strong point, being honest).

Cheers.
 
I grew up in similar circumstances as you, living in a small town and a very aggressive family when it came to my autism and schizophrenia but I don't mean to compare since it's still very different and rude of me to compare trauma. I just wanted to give you something I learned growing up in a household of hate is that the best thing you can do is allow yourself to want more. It took me a long time to allow myself to do this and to be truthfull I just started to get the hang of it. Recalling my childhood, I would dream of living in a house where I can live in peace no one hitting me or yelling and some days thats the only thing that kept me going. I would love to hear more about you and see one of your drawings I love abstract since it's the only thing I can draw🤣.
 
Welcome @ saigetic,

Being in your mid-teens is a rough stage in life...old enough to know right from wrong, have some morals, and yet still be under your parents thumb. I often say this... and it is true throughout your life...just remember, "This too, shall pass." Life is about change and things are rarely permanent... your happiness, your sadness, your anger, the people in your life will come and go, things you gain and loose... all of it.

That said, we cannot choose our parents. Many of us have gone through similar situations with parents that, for whatever their reasons... their expectations, their personality disorders, their cognitive biases, their ignorance... it just made being around them a negative experience. All I can suggest is that at 16 you've got a few years to quietly make your plans on how to leave their home and be successful at it. I suspect from your description of them, they are not actively teaching you the life skills you will need to be successful on your own... so I would go about learning on your own. Often, we find parents with similar types of behaviors as yours to actually NOT teach their children...and then flip it around on the child and be angry with them for not being able to leave the home because they haven't learned the skills. It's manipulative, but they like to hold that power. If that is the case... then the saying "knowledge is power" applies to you. The more you can learn all those skills you will need for life on your own, the better.

There is a transition going on in the real world right now where the skilled trades are the safer bet in terms of "return on investment"... very high demand, great wages, and training is relatively quick and won't strap you with high amounts of debt. Keeping a job in this new AI and robotics world that will wash over us within the next 5-10 years will be a challenge... a lot of those 4yr college degree folks will be let go or never find employment... and still be strapped with educational debt. Choose wisely... wages are often a function of supply and demand. Plan for positioning yourself for this new world.

As far as the autism thing goes... just for clarity, autism and intellect are not associated with each other. Some of the most profound cases of autism... the folks that people see as non-verbal and "severely mentally impaired" just might be genius savants simply trapped in a dysfunctional body. It can be quite deceiving. On the other hand, do consider autism is a neurological difference... down to the cellular level... and with that, creates a different way of thinking and sometimes abilities. "Those that are the best, do it different than the rest." Over our long human history, the innovators, the inventors, the best in their fields making the most contributions and advancements... either were autistic or suspected of being so. Just look around at the world we live in... a neurotypical world... the divisiveness... the attacks on each other... is THIS what you want to fit into? Autistics are often victims of this divisiveness... even from our own families. "I just want to fit in, have friends and people that like me." Well, if you're autistic... good luck with neurotypicals :rolleyes: (sarcasm)... better to find people that share that neurodivergent experience. Alternatively, would you want to change the world in some way... contribute to or make the next advancement in the arts or sciences? Do you want to live in a world of love, positivity, and unity? All that said, being autistic does come with a "cost" and that means all sorts of social, communication, sensory, and even some fine motor skill issues. I often feel like a visiting extraterrestrial alien disguised as a human, here to observe on Earth. It used to be quite confusing and frustrating, but I have embraced it at this point. But... as frustrating and painful it can be in specific situations... I wouldn't want to be neurotypical. I love that I am different. Self-acceptance is so important.

I am not going to say you are autistic... that requires a professional diagnosis, something you can seek out later if you wish. Sometimes just sitting down and talking with a specialist in this area will open up your mind that you are different... it's OK... and you do have special intelligences that you can use in the real world. Having self-awareness of your strengths and weaknesses is a good thing... just make sure you put yourself in a situation where you can play to your strengths. We all suck at something... doesn't matter who you are, so don't dwell on them. Head up, shoulders back, eyes forward, and attack life head on. Set small short-term goals and set big long-term goals... do not be passive and float around in life like someone in a boat without oars at the mercy of the currents and winds. Do NOT rely upon other people... you will be repeatedly disappointed... you have to do things yourself most of the time. I grew up working and making my own money...from the age of 9. I started from nothing. I am self-taught and self-made. I didn't have the money to pay for help. I left home at 18 and never looked back. I have learned to be an electrician, a welder, an engine builder, how to install hot water heaters, drywalling (all self-taught)... I have had a 300 gallon all natural ecosystem (no filters) aquarium (self-taught)...I have built and driven my own race car (self-taught)...I am a full time respiratory therapist, part time university instructor... married for nearly 40 years and father of 2 successful young men. You will learn to just "do things" because you have the desire and/or no one is going to help you. You will put yourself into some really uncomfortable, painful situations, and screw up... but also eventually overcome and have your victories in life knowing that "I did it" and no one can take that away from you. Hopefully, you will have a life of hard challenges and victories that will reinforce your self-confidence that you can do just about anything you set your mind to.

You've got a few more years with your parents and then it's on you. Don't let your parents be the ones to hold you back with discouraging comments. Looks like you've been through the process of trying to please your parents and failed... and not because you are a failure... it may be because you never will be able to because of who they are... and that's not on you. Set your goals and drive forward quietly with purpose. Reach out and gain some power over your life... set yourself up for success... and don't concern yourself with other people.
 
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there is actually a library not too far from my town, maybe i can find something next time i go with my mom. I really don't want her to notice too much though since i fear she'll get mad at me if she sees me buying a book about childhood emotional neglect since, again (i think i said this) she gets very defensive over the idea of possibly being thought of as a child abuser or neglecter and won't let me into therapy because of it
It's good you have access to a library because they tend to purchase high quality books, unlike Amazon which sells everything, including low quality books that may not be worth reading. You don't really need a book on childhood emotional neglect as these books mostly help people understand why they struggled with emotions and why their parents didn't help them with it (which often occurs because parents struggle with emotional problems or don't understand emotions well enough to teach their children about them). Books on emotional intelligence are much more helpful because they focus on teaching essential information that no one taught you (such as what causes emotions, how to change the emotions you experience, coping with difficult situations, and healthy mindsets that lead to more success in life. Learning this information can make it easier to understand others, form better relationships, deal with difficult people, be more successful in school, get a job, and be happier.

on another note, i'm still really struggling to accept all of this. so far everyone i've read replies of online (including another forum i was on for a brief amount of time but then i realized it was 18+ so i had to leave)have all said this is considered neglect and it's not normal but for my entire life i've been so numb to it that i didn't even realize that. and now it's all kinda weighing on me at once and it's a lot to take in but i feel like part of me kind of knew anyways and was just too scared to admit it. having so many people be so supportive has comforted me tenthousandfold though. isolation has really made things worse and even if you and others are just random strangers on the internet it still kinda lightens the weight off of my shoulders just a little :,)

i will see what i can do though, with the books and whatnot. thanks for the advice! i really hope the next couple years won't be so bad if i can make things just a little easier for me to cope
Emotional neglect is often unintentional. Your parents may love you and try their best but they can't teach you what they don't know or struggle to understand. I've read that most people who experienced emotional neglect weren't aware of it because it's hard to become aware of something that didn't happen. It's good you are learning about this stuff now because many people never learn about it and end up repeating the same mistakes as their parents when they have children.
 
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If you are in America (or a country where this will work), see if you can be evaluated by a school psychologist. They can give you guidance in this matter.
 
Welcome!
Most of your symptoms I relate with. Not all as we're all different.
My parents were the only people I could ever really be myself around and know acceptance and feel loved.
I'm 68 now and wasn't diagnosed until I was in my 50's.

I like your interest. I have a super worm and darkling beetle farm in my laundry room.
Insects are one of my interests too. Just can't get over the fear of spiders.🕷️😲
But then they aren't really insects. They are arachnids. Oh, well.

Hope you like the forums. It has been a great place for me for years now. :)🌻
 

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