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How to better sell my lifestyle when it comes to modern dating standards?

when I was growing up anyone still living with their parents after about the age of 18 or 19 was considered weird.
I was 29 and living in a room and board situation when I met my wife. She was curious as to why I didn't just have my own apartment. I pointed out that having my own apartment took time, energy, and money that I had other uses for. It wasn't that I couldn't afford it, but I liked being able to put my time into hiking or doing photography instead. She figured that made sense and it became a non-issue.
 
Not always. It depends on the society, and the individual people and families in question. There are a lot of variables that determine whether or not it is an issue.

It's cultural for one thing, and generational and regional and personal and also can involve socioeconomic class, whether or not adults (autistic or NT or whatever) of any age live with their parents or not.

It's also worth pointing out that past a certain age, some grown children live with their parents because the adult child is the caregiver -- is taking care of one or both parents, or helping with that caregiving.

My first relationship ever I was 19. My boyfriend was 30. (I am male and pansexual -- bisexual if that is a more familiar and understandable word to anyone reading...I have dated or been otherwise intimately involved with men and women [and people of other genders/sexes]. And: No, it was not exploitation, with this 30-year-old boyfriend - although I have been exploited just not by the guy I mention...)

I lived at home with my mother at the time, and this was not a big deal at all. It would have been a problem if my mother hated him or if he hated her, perhaps, but they liked each other just fine.

Boyfriend lived with a roommate, and actually his roommate was a lot more intrusive/nosy, and generally annoying than my mother.

It was fine with him that I lived a home, and fine with me that he lived with a roommate, because neither my mother nor his roommate were home all the time, and at my house the walls were well-insulated and my mother was not a prude and did not know nor ask about our time with my door closed -- she did not consider it her business what I did in my bedroom on the other side of the house with a romantic partner. My boyfriend's roommate on the other hand was not um...comfortable... to be around.

My other relationships, except for the last one, I always lived with roommates. It was never an issue. We all minded our own business when romantic partners or one-night intimate guests stayed over. I had earplugs for when sound travelled through walls and I suspect everyone else did, too, or just didn't care.

If I were to date someone again, I wouldn't care if they lived with their family just because they lived with their family. I don't assume anything about a person from that fact alone.... to me it's a bit ridiculous to do so.

Many of my cousins lived at home with their parents longer than I did, and dated while living at home -- female and male cousins, most older than me. Multiple relationships.

Privacy can definitely be an issue, if you live at home though -- and not just for intimate activities if you choose to engage in any or all such activities before marriage (I did, I judge nobody -- this is just a nod to people who don't, for the sake of inclusivity as well as because abstaining from such activities may change the equation such that privacy isn't as big of an issue for all the reasons one might assume it would be) -- Privacy can also just be an issue for how you live your lives and having one on one time. But it can be just as much an issue if you live with roommates, as many, many adults of varying ages do out of pure financial necessity -- they might live alone if they could, but the reality is that in many places many people can't, not even when they earn good money in well-respected careers -- because of housing markets and inflation and the cost of education when your parents cannot pay for it and when saving up for tuition from very low wage jobs before going to school to earn qualifications is not a realistic or ideal option for many.

@Brian39WV I am not a woman but I have dated women, and am related to women and friends with women and I tell you with certainty:

Whether or not your living with your parents will matter to someone -- or your living with roommates (family are basically roommates if you are a grown adult not under guardianship, and if you have sane parents/siblings/other relatives who recognize your autonomy as an adult -- esp if you have your own income [benefits or job, either way] and contribute to the household both financially and otherwise) -- whether that matters really depends on the individual woman considering you as a romantic partner; Their cultural and socioeconomic background, their critical thinking (ie what assumptions they will or will not make about you based on where you live), their values, what they are looking for in any romantic partner.

Who you are as a person and having life goals and values in common matters most to anyone not looking to exploit you, and people of all genders have individual preferences in terms of romantic-partner selection -- you just have to find someone you're compatible with.

Trying to change yourself or your life just to get a date is not a great way to approach dating, imo -- if you want to change something do it for yourself, do it because it matters to you, not just to impress others . I'm not saying you shouldn't be flexible about behaviour or habits, or about sacrificing or striving for better for someone you fall in love with, but ultimately it's better to be with someone who loves you as you are and vice versa.

Don't forget: Plenty of women also live with family as adults, for all kinds of reasons.

There are truly no rules that apply to literally everyone. There is too much diversity in how people live, in culture, in financial means, in ability, in values.

That said, when you live with family (or roommates) you may be seen as not-romantic-partner-worthy by more people than if you don't; Simply because those who don't care if you live with family or roommates probably also don't care if you live alone -- but the same can't be said for those who have a problem with you still living with your family (or roommates) and/or who make assumptions about that. But is the goal to be attractive to as many women as you possibly can be, or is the goal to find a woman with whom you are compatible in terms of your lifestyle, your goals, your values, your perspectives, and with whom you share mutual attraction?

And have you thought at all about this:

What are your standards?

(e.g. One of your standards could be, if you wanted, that any woman you would date has to be okay with the fact you live with your parents? Acceptance and expectations should exist on both sides -- one person shouldn't exist and mould themselves to be whatever the other person dictates...that's not healthy, in my opinion, and is not real love.)
I only have two standards. One she wants to date me. I could not sell water to a man dying of thirst. I will ask women out. If they say yes, that is great. If they say no, that is no big deal either. But I am not going to sell myself in any other way. And I certainly would never force anyone to date me (that should go without saying). I will always be upfront and honest with people about my lifestyle, who I am and what I have. I do not mind being honest always. It is something I am a strong believer in.

My second standard is that I am attracted to her. Beyond that I have no standards. Obviously an infinit number of things could come up that would make me not want to pursue a relationship with her. But as far as a first date those are my only two standards. She wants to date me; and I am attracted to her.
 
I believe this is true of everyone I've ever met in life including myself. I'm a slightly older generation, but when I was growing up anyone still living with their parents after about the age of 18 or 19 was considered weird.

There's lots of different areas of life that people will use to judge you as if they are certain levels of maturity. This is true in all social interactions and it's also common questions you'll get asked during job interviews. Do you live in your own home? Can you drive a car? Are you financially stable or wallowing in debt?

No one cares about how much money you do or don't have or whether or not you're currently working but all these types of things add up to people's first impressions of you. What they really want to know is if you are someone who stands on their own two feet or are you always dependent on everyone around you.
I agree with everything except for the money part.
If you don't make your own money, unless you have rich parents, definitely wouldn't impose on your partner, or your partner is okay being a sugar daddy/mommy, then this does matter at least to some extent.
People will say it doesn't but the reality is, most people are not Mother Theresa.
 
On the whole I would say I completely agree with you. I will tell a quick story. A few years ago, I was living on my own. My parents had bought me a little townhouse (they are upper middle class) and I was working a very basic 30,000 dollar a year job. None of it was fancy but I was proud of both things.

At the time I was spending time on Reddit essentially doing the same thing I am doing here- looking for a girlfriend. I was explaining my situation and trying to see if women would be interested in someone like me. Now I know Reddit can be a bit of a cruel place. But women on there kept telling me my dating options would be extremely limited if I was only making say 30,000 dollars a year. In my own life trying to date online I found this to be true as well. I began to understand the game that was being played.

If I finally started making 35,000 dollars a year women would complain that I was not making 40,000 a year; if I was making 40,000 dollars a year women would complain I was not making 50,000. Well, you get the idea. I realized it was just a never-ending quest to improve.

But that is just not me. I am just not a competitive person and with my autism I will simply never earn much beyond minimum wage. I was half killing myself working as hard as I was for the 30,000. I was unhappy living alone (I have never enjoyed living alone) and the only reason I was living alone was so that I had a better chance of getting into a relationship. A couple of years of living like that felt like banging my head against the wall trying to get into a relationship.

I eventually figured screw it. If I am still not going to impress women with my job and owning my own place what is the point? I am not a materialistic person in any sense anyways. And deep down I know any future girlfriend of mine is probably not going to be a materialist either, so what is the point of it all. I might as well move back home and be much happier living there all while I am trying to get into a relationship.
Keeping the home and renting it out could be more ideal if living by yourself in it isn't serving its needs. Some people would be attracted to someone who owns their own place. It definitely has stature, but maybe you just haven't run into the right people.
 
Brian39WV, you should try to look for partner(s) in a similar situation to you.
These kind of people you will be able to relate to much more.
 
Keeping the home and renting it out could be more ideal if living by yourself in it isn't serving its needs. Some people would be attracted to someone who owns their own place. It definitely has stature, but maybe you just haven't run into the right people.
Renting out the townhouse means more disposable money, if my math is right.
Disposable income adds to a male's "attractiveness". <not a joke> :cool:
 
Renting out the townhouse means more disposable money, if my math is right.
Disposable income adds to a male's "attractiveness". <not a joke> :cool:
Exactly!

If not able to be able to be rented out, or if repairs are significant or price of home goes down during the time frame, then there could still be a loss.
So, it's not full-proof by any means, but it's an option worth considering.
It can be (a lot) more work depending on context and situation.

If you have no job, then this would be a good job to have instead if you have this as an option.


Such as if your residence is in a big city, a landlord certification would be required to update yearly.
The way to update is not always straightforward and could change.
I know from personal experience!

My family forced me to be a landlord and I almost lost my job over it.
And we actually took a loss after it didn't go well for 8 years.
 
Exactly!

If not able to be able to be rented out, or if repairs are significant or price of home goes down during the time frame, then there could still be a loss.
So, it's not full-proof by any means, but it's an option worth considering.
Here in Australia, it is pretty much foolproof due to the favourable tax laws, something the hard-left government is trying to abolish.

It can be (a lot) more work depending on context and situation.

If you have no job, then this would be a good job to have instead if you have this as an option.
I did that after I retired.
I did a lot of the maintenance myself.

Such as if your residence is in a big city, a landlord certification would be required to update yearly.
The way to update is not always straightforward and could change.
I know from personal experience!

My family forced me to be a landlord and I almost lost my job over it.
And we actually took a loss after it didn't go well for 8 years.
Over here in Australia, apart from rent money, the property values double every ten years pretty consistently.
The house that I am living in now affirms that.
The strong immigration policy of the Labor Party will probably continue that trend.
 
The harsh truth when it comes to dating is that everyone has standards of one sort or another. Another harsh truth (at least for me personally) is that I typically do not meet these standards. I do not have a ton of friends or an active social life; I am not currently employed (I certainly do not make a ton of money), I do not have any relationship experience, I live with my parents, I am autistic- I will stop there but I imagine the list could go on.
You don't have to sell your lifestyle to anyone. You just have to find someone in a similar situation as yourself (women with special needs (autism, mental illness, or other disability) who are unemployed and live with their parents).

Women who are gainfully employed and living on their own will want someone in a similar situation as themselves (as I'm sure you would if you were them). I doubt anything you say or do would convince them to consider a relationship with you because you are incompatible due to being too different from each other. Fortunately, you only need one woman and there are likely several women with special needs where you live who are also unemployed and live with their parents.
 
You don't have to sell your lifestyle to anyone. You just have to find someone in a similar situation as yourself (women with special needs (autism, mental illness, or other disability) who are unemployed and live with their parents).

Women who are gainfully employed and living on their own will want someone in a similar situation as themselves (as I'm sure you would if you were them). I doubt anything you say or do would convince them to consider a relationship with you because you are incompatible due to being too different from each other. Fortunately, you only need one woman and there are likely several women with special needs where you live who are also unemployed and live with their parents.
I guess all I can say is here I am looking. If anyone is interested, I would be more than happy to hear from you.
 

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