History of Psychiatry/History of Autism

[Crossbreed]

ASD1 [meaning no significant co-morbids] is a difference, not a defect, but does not guarantee giftedness.

I do not understand the "male" emphasis in your previous post, though. We know in gifted circles that [Edenic] male & female brains tend to work differently than each other to reach the same conclusions.
That said-males (gifted or not) tend to use more spatial reasoning,
where said-females (gifted or not) tend to rely on more verbal reasoning.

 

[Crossbreed]

Scenario 1
So having a normal or neurotypucal makeup this guy spent him womanizing, drinking, smoking pot, preoccupied with social norms.
After school he would return home and put on his ama-zing thinking cap and pass as regular guy with high intellect.

Scenario 2
Boy is nerd, spend most time studying. Is largely directed from family. Has foundations learnt like a parrot. Answers an IQ test that looks like school test and yay, away we go.
Given unusual or new tests he has what special gift to rely on....he has msgik glue stick

These both sound like giftedness issues rather than being specific to ASD.
If you have a question --I cannot tell-- this topic is probably better in a PM.

 

[Kayla55]

Society assumes men are more intelligent, that's outdated by access to education.

So some men are intellectually more advanced but continue to
a) live normal life
b) locked in basement like Edison busy persuing his interest
c) asd males share usual traits as regular guys

Woman can rely on more than verbal reasoning. Asp woman may also have higher iq than regular men,

Another example
USA is in industrial boom, the first power station never had any issues with cooling or anything else. It was a text book perfect case.
There was never radiation leaks in factories building old televisions.

Einstein came out of Switzerland with medial work post, went to Germany and we'll we don't know he was on spectrum but he was smart but still questionable where you got grounds for research.

So radiation leak, shower off, scrubbing down. Toxins get into community water, children get sick.
Now it takes a smart person to figure out what to do however a smart person who spent 10 years in a room with no stimulus wouldn't have ground to break.

 

[Kayla55]

This point comes from the arts and has historical argument (example unlimited autism)
Society accepts cubism as a style of painting, after one person used this as THEIR own representation what others did was copy. But we accept influence so to judge a painting we would look at how well the artist interpreted points through use of cubism.

Picasso was in scrap yard taking many other styles to influence his art, he seemed to be with genre.

I do not like Picasso, I do not like what lifestyle he had and I loathe his painting and interpretation of his wives. But that's personal preference!! It goes on to State that if monkey can see, then monkey can do and if monkey is proud of himself, then good for you.
Respect for this, have I none.

 

[Crossbreed]

Of course without comorbids, one is just born with a photographic memory. Without sensory issues one is just a special gift. Etc.

One of the unifying traits across the whole spectrum, according to Lorna Wing, is the lack of social instinct.
https://autlanders.blogspot.com/2019/07/autism-subtypes.html

 

[Kayla55]

Ummmm, yes, socially inadapt

If you don't mind my mention that neuro-typical women are greedy, inclined to jump over one another to get ahead, less inclined to bother with rejects like us and most inclined to stand in line for credit, freebies and hardly anywhere to be found when it's not easy meal.

Now it's not just snobbery that we akward or what you said doesn't make sense, popular or fit in, it's lack of understanding or empathy from female species (maybe just my experience)

Amused at Italian Meloni president, interesting concept. Suppose she's not French but still doing a lot for women's rights,,, Na I think Macron selected well on balancing of what women would get away with.
I'm not against idea of women being successful, I just believe realistically that some belong in beauty salon and are more than liberated at earning own income and better off gossip there than embarassing womankind into further disbelief in our capabilities.

This is the strain when masking is to keep up with the witches!!!! (right/wrong)

 

[Kayla55]

One of the unifying traits across the whole spectrum, according to Lorna Wing, is the lack of social instinct.
https://autlanders.blogspot.com/2019/07/autism-subtypes.html

Women on spectrum suffer most depression and have highest suicide rate!!!

Why is this? Why do we never want to answer why, prefer not to talk about it.
Masking and PTSD

 

[Kayla55]

One of the unifying traits across the whole spectrum, according to Lorna Wing, is the lack of social instinct.
https://autlanders.blogspot.com/2019/07/autism-subtypes.html

Yes, and as a psychologist one recommends a functional family and with regards to needs of children there are areas I help my son with reading and poetry, his father isn't a leftie and isn't around but nope, I'm not a leftie and missed all his bi-lateral tips and realised afterwards how tricky it was to cut veggies with left hand. His father isn't on spectrum, difference on opinion of raising children. I suppose that's joy of diversity.....if both parents were compatible it would be ideal.
I love my son and want what's best for him.
Doing math homework differs, he calculates in his head, I insist he learn to show calculus.....he finds my lack of formulas and visuals Alward and prefers his math tutor!! I never wrote formulas when I used to program on accounting system (very few do because these are already calculated by very few who lead in maths field) but I understand these mostly and readily adapt to insert formulas into my code and substitute variables, error free!
Drama was not my subject, nor was choir, nor dance.....so as female on spectrum I'm good at nothing and I don't know why I'm depressed.

 

[Kayla55]

I don't think I could ever forget echo in house, that's not how you read to children....must read 3 bears with expression like this

My son hates it when I teach him expression, I insist it learnt skill that I try not use that often.

 

[Kayla55]

Specific info on girlie diagnosis

• Females tend to be diagnosed with other mental illnesses.
• 23% of women who are diagnosed with eating disorders have ASD symptoms—a percentage much higher than in the general public (3%). [1]
• • Autism and ADHD tend to co-occur, resulting in many females who are easily distracted being diagnosed with ADHD instead. [2]
  • Due to one of the diagnostic triad being repetitive and restricted behavior OCD can look a lot like ASD and females are diagnosed with OCD instead. [3]
• instead. [3]

DIFFERENT NEUROLOGY

• Behavioral and preliminary neuroimaging findings suggest that autism manifests differently in girls. Notably, females with autism may be closer to typically developing males in their social abilities than typical girls or boys with autism.
• Girls with autism are indeed different from other girls in how their brain analyzes social information. But they are not like boys with autism. Each girl’s brain instead looks like that of a typical boy of the same age, with reduced activity in regions normally associated with socializing. “They’re still reduced relative to typically developing girls.”

• A social life does not come naturally to high-functioning females with ASD, but they use their high intelligence to mimic and become excellent actresses when necessary. This often results in identity crises, suicidal ideations and exhaustion.
• Females study people they way other people study math—learning the rules via observation, reading novels and applying these rules to social situations. (Not always understanding or agreeing but not necessarily up for argument)
• Autistic females have socially acceptable obsessions such as research.
• Autism is often marked by an absence of pretend play, research finds that this is less true for girls. (Research fails to see we mask and play doctor nurse but after get home I used to take radios and other things apart to see how works)
• (Girls are subjected social issues and discouraged or made difficult to persue certain subjects, (sexism )but are discredited by neurotypicsl men who don't want to recognise us in workplace) asp makes experience similar discrimination but tend as stated to excel further in these fields

 

[Kayla55]

(Comments are in brackets)

• The autistic tendency to be direct and take things literally can make affected girls and women easy prey for sexual exploitation. Furthermore, the desire to fit in makes them feel “the only way to have a relationship with a man is to enter into a relationship sexually”. But Professor Carpenter said that safeguarding autistic girls could be challenging because a “black-and-white thinker” who was “desperate for friends” might believe that engaging in risky behavior was better than the apparent alternative – being “excluded” and “isolated”. [7] ( neurotypicsl men are pigs who deliberately seek to exploit women, by keeping women down they are sexual predators.
• The problem with sexual exploitation is “endemic” among women on the spectrum, particularly because so many are acutely aware of their social isolation. “When you feel you’re too difficult to love, you’ll love for crumbs.” [8] (the best day was when I got good mother advice and learnt what pigs are....my mother was bad role model, she even questioned if I was sure I'd succeed in my prospective career. Girls need mother or friends who strong guides to understand difference love and sex)

 

[Kayla55]

When I was unsure of pronouncing words...I'd avoid them
When I wasn't sure socially as most women are taught, just be quiet.

Nope, lot didn't understand agree with. And I'm not alone I've seen women taking things literally and we not that good at masking, sufficient to get by not going to get in with cheerleaders. Tend to often fit in and walk away due to bored or empty relations with women, not always witchy)

We mask but not cutting the acting class. Miss many things and seep through the cracks.

 

[Kayla55]

Interesting idea.....
The girls were playing teacher teacher that day, I took passive role as student and went along with it for a while, didn't quite understand the fascination of bring a teacher.
Then I remember playing in the garden alone, I'd heard salt makes snails bubble so this is what I was doing, very disappointed that none of them bubbled. Began digging up earthworms to cut up and see if multiplied, began to feel guilty for poor things. Decided after that experiments were wrong.

To this day I'm not sure if I wanted to be a teacher, and if so .
Which subject I'd teach....not grammar (definately no) but I take my hat off to my son's Montessori teacher, she has leftie scissors and 3 leftie students however she was informed by me that I only realised afterwards that handwriting had subtle differences!!

If I was a child shrink....nope never thought this either. But in raising my boys I can say what I disagree with but no, i have another job. A real job for when I need time away from mad house of society.

A secretary.....no. but loved suing with stamps, I'd stamp them over and over and when others walked in I'd shuffle papers around and pretend to answer the phone.
I met a lesbian couple, she was a secretary and I didn't want to be rude and say it but I really couldn't understand the job description of serving another person unless I was assistant and learning and he was so smart and busy as opposed too to lazy fetch laundry. Lol