Five year old autistic boy accused of sexual activities by school

[WildCat]

This needs to be taken up with the staff and they need to be given hell several times over for this. Back in the early 90s in my days of kindergarten, this would have been treated at most as a "no-no" or some such, the kids would be reprimanded (probably, if it wasn't simply overlooked as kids being kids) and back to business as usual.

Hell, I've gotten suspended for what in the wonderful world of adult life could be labeled assault - got angry and knocked a kid down to the pavement once or twice - but did the staff decide to turn it into the beginning of a criminal record? No, I got a good stern talking to from both them and my parents/guardians and the opportunity to learn from my mistakes. "Getting along with others" wasn't exactly a strong suit of mine at that time...and admittedly, it still isn't now though not to the same childish extent, but that was about two and a half decades ago.

Two and a half decades later...

This right here? Tainting a child's future with that crap? Outrageous doesn't even begin to describe it, and I can assure you this 5 year old kid being autistic has less to do with it than people are claiming.

 

[aspieoutlaw89]

For crying out loud!

He's 5 years old and they're putting him on a sex offenders register for giving one classmate a hug and giving another a kiss on the cheek?!

Bolletje nails it - these are both things that kids do when they display affection. I had a thing when I was in primary school when I used to pretend to try and kiss other kids because I thought it was funny (I was 4/5 years old); the teachers told me off and explained why I shouldn't do it and that was it.
When I was working on a voluntary basis, I once hugged a female colleague out of empathy because she had gotten upset and was crying in the office; I was talked to about it by my manager the next day and while he empathized with my reason why, he did still explain that what I did had confused/concerned my colleague and so I made sure not to do it again - the next time just giving her some tissues if she got upset again.
There was no big hoo-haa about it; both situations were approached with common sense with lessons learnt and followed afterwards.

The fact they're labelling this 5 year old as a "sexual predator" and putting him on a sex offenders list instead of just explaining to him why it's not appropriate isn't just wrong, it's despicable and disgusting!
If he'd gone into the toilet and forced himself upon another student despite their age (I have heard a story about that happening before at a primary school but can't find the story at the moment) then I could at least understand it been a major concern, but this is a big case of "the punishment doesn't fit the crime" as this teacher's overreaction will likely now affect him for the rest of his life.

and they register him as a sex offender for showing affection ? that's just messed up.he's just a kid.this is the kind of general oppression targeting people like him,i just want to punch in the face. .

 

[tree]

This story is greatly sensationalized in the version cited in the first post.

It appears that the child's grandmother is the source of the idea that he
will be labeled for life.

"Debi Amick, Nathan's grandmother, posted in a private Facebook post:
"What do you do when a 5 year child is being labeled a sexual predator and accused of sexual harassment by the school system? It was disclosed that it will go in his record for the rest of his life that he is a sex offender."

Note: Grandmother is the one saying "...it will go in his record for the rest of his life...."
Grandma's vocabulary is off. She is over stating, generalizing, talking over her head. Uninformed.
Family of 5-year-old with autism says he was punished for hugging at Tennessee school

To be charged as a sex offender, an individual must be minimum 14 years of age, in TN.
See Post #20, in this thread.

Tim Hensley, a spokesperson for the Hamilton County Department of Education, released this statement:

"School personnel are required to (report) concerns regarding children to the Department of Child Services (DCS). It's up to DCS to determine if those reports are acted on by DCS and what form those actions may take. "

Family of 5-year-old with autism says he was punished for hugging at Tennessee school

 

[Schism]

This is disgusting. The child is 5. What child doesn't show sudden moments of spontaneous affection at this age? ASD aside. Any child will do this. He hugged, he kissed a cheek. Perfectly nice, kind, loving attributes for a little, kind human being I think. Now let's think about NTs who do the opposite. Jamie Bulgers assailants come to mind here

 

[AGXStarseed]

It’s what frightens me, now you don’t know what to say to what !I thought the social worker I was talking to was joking ,when she said, she can’t ask for black coffee ,then I thought again ,I still keep thinking it’s wrong, I keep thinking she’s just misheard but then I think litigation ,litigious society what do you describe it as ,if you said very dark brown would you be racist ,so when she had to visit people of different ethnicities how do you talk to them ,would there be a phone call afterwards saying they are suing the council and ,she comes from a generation ,when all the was ,was white coffee and black coffee and all you actually said was coffee with milk or black coffee ,how do you describe black coffee if it’s not black and not sound anally retentive.
It’s worse because I’m the only autistic person in my street now you don’t know what to say to children , there are courses now for actors, initiated by a company in England ,to show them how much they can touch another actor ,it feels utterly bizarre saying that .

Indeed.
With all that's happened with the "MeToo" movement and men seeing how even a false accusation could potentially cost them their jobs and thus their livelihood, men have looked for solutions to the problem and decided the best thing to do is limit their interactions with women/avoid them altogether. If they have to interact with women, they have a 'third party' with them so the woman can't make a false allegation because the third party will confirm that it's a lie.
The positives of this are that men are less likely to have a false allegation thrown their way and their complete/limited avoidance of women means cases of sexual harassment will most likely drop.

In an article from the Guardian released in August this year, however, it appears that despite women getting what they wanted as they're no longer getting/less likely to get harassed at work, they're now angry because they've interpreted the men's change of tactics into the idea that men are "punishing" them for MeToo ever happening in the first place and it's men's way of "putting women back in their place": Men now avoid women at work – another sign we're being punished for #MeToo | Arwa Mahdawi

 

[100skerls]

Tell me about it. I've heard that there are guys now who go out of their way to avoid/limit contact with women in their work environment - to the point where any meetings between them and women are attended by a third party to protect them from if their female colleagues make false allegations.

I think my comment was taken the wrong way. I fully support the me too movement. The “big yikes” was because I thought the comment I quoted was very political and divisive in nature for the site.

 

[100skerls]

In times like these, I really wish everyone would read through all the comments instead of commenting after seeing the initial prompt. And while I personally don’t think censorship is necessarily the answer, because those who disagree with the comments being made about the me too movement can’t voice their disagreements without also breaking the rules, I think it’s probably for the best that these kind of comments not be made - it is the rules anyway.

 

[100skerls]

No disrespect or ill will on my end, I hope I have come off how I intended to. It’s just not the right place to really get into it, ya know? Personally I do love a good respectful debate.

 

[Streetwise]

In times like these, I really wish everyone would read through all the comments instead of commenting after seeing the initial prompt. And while I don’t think censorship is always the answer, because those who disagree with the comments being made about the me too movement can’t voice their disagreements without also breaking the rules, I think it’s probably for the best that these kind of comments not be made - it is the rules anyway.

The reason I’m referring to are these !!!!people are using it (#me too )just to gain notoriety or wealth or both , the actor I was talking about carried out the purported act 40 years before ,very strange in the last last three years it is now an offence ,it was found that the person hadn’t actually been assaulted or raped ,but they decided in the last three years that it wasn’t completely consensual and that the person should be accused of rape very strange! ,I am not in any way saying women who have been raped ( molested ,sexually abused )don’t deserve justice ,I have referred many times to the word used commonly which actually means to try to kill (murder)a woman by means of sexual intercourse, but people actually now !!!!!!think it means sexual intercourse,if I have confused you which I do regularly PM me and I will tell you the word , I do not want to make the word ,ordinary or normal ,to me it is not ordinary or normal ,it is perverted .

 

[Streetwise]

No disrespect or ill will on my end, I hope I have come off how I intended to. It’s just not the right place to really get into it, ya know? Personally I do love a good respectful debate.

Got to say this to you ,as it might prevent me from saying something or doing something even worse ,I thought you said no respect or ill wind on my end, I don’t know what part of my illness produced that

 

[Bolletje]

Got to say this to you ,as it might prevent me from saying something or doing something even worse ,I thought you said no respect or ill wind on my end, I don’t know what part of my illness produced that

I have plenty of ill wind on my end, but I wouldn't bring that into a good respectful debate.

 

[100skerls]

@Streetwise LMAO

 

[Streetwise]

@Streetwise LMAO

abbreviations like that are still very strange to me are you an A*s or A**e person to be clear I’m talking about the letter A

 

[Streetwise]

@Streetwise LMAO

i’ve realised actually it doesn’t refer to flatulence,it’s an old saying in English ,it’s an ill wind that doesn’t blow anybody some good ,I think those words probably come from my memory I’ve stuffed so much in and now it’s starting to leak out .

 

[100skerls]

Laughing my Adam’s apple off? Laughing my antenna off? Laughing my..autism off? Laughing my acronym off? The great thing about acronyms is you can interpret them how you want. I just say things to say things anyway. Just don’t take it to mean something mean. Examples: Losing more antsy oatmeal. Loving matters about optometry. Little muffins and ocelots. Lauren muddles anything obtusely.

 

[Streetwise]

Laughing my Adam’s apple off? Laughing my antenna off? Laughing my..autism off? Laughing my acronym off? The great thing about acronyms is you can interpret them how you want. I just say things to say things anyway. Just don’t take it to mean something mean. Examples: Losing more antsy oatmeal. Loving matters about optometry. Little muffins and ocelots. Lauren muddles anything obtusely.

I didn’t think it was mean I just couldn’t remember what nationality you were and I knew one is American and the other one is generally British

 

[100skerls]

Right. I can relate. My leaky brain makes me feel insane sometimes - like I don’t really know anything because everything I’ve heard is just seemingly floating around up there, bumping into and breaking stuff.

 

[Streetwise]

@100skerls i’m not as timid as people think I am !but I also don’t like to pretend that I am something I’m not

 

[Streetwise]

Right. I can relate. My leaky brain makes me feel insane sometimes - like I don’t really know anything because everything I’ve heard is just seemingly floating around up there, bumping into and breaking stuff.

Mine has leaked all the way out That may be the reason why am finding it harder to discern what people say I’ve stuffed so much in there now it’s literally coming out and there is no time to discern anything, i’m a lesson/Warning to have a good diet and having some fun ,had a terrible diet at one point and barely knew the meaning of fun .

 

[100skerls]

Oh alright. Am American. I guess around here it’s the first and not the latter of the two you mentioned. But I’ll never admit to using an acronym that had a bad word in it. I meant laughing my acronym off.