Do you believe there's extraterrestrial life out there?

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The US government claim that they were unable to tack drones for variety of reasons, as a government scientist told 60 minutes (a popular news program). I understand that shouting them down is dangerous because they fly in densely populated areas. The reason why aircraft cannot follow them makes no sense to me because they fly slow, as the radar data shows, they are not superfast UFOs. The best way to determine the drone points of departure is to use satellite data. However, the scientist said nothing about the satellite images of drones.

At least the incidents in Jersey were never properly explained. It reminds me of the Phoenix Lights incident in Arizona back in the 1990s. Literally thousands of people who witnessed a giant triangle the size of a football field were told it was just flares dropped from jets. Just for fun I watched night images of actual flares on youtube and it was so obvious based on the uneven speed they dropped and the disparity in light intensity between the flares.

 

[Cyber]

Ok confirmed. NASA live feed cut off several seconds before camera live feed of 3I Atlas from Mars
But the one single image looks like a tic tac
NASA Rover Appears to Catch Photo of Mysterious Interstellar Object From Surface of Mars

 

[Cyber]

well this frustrating not only did early photos mistake Phobos for 3I Atlas
https://bsky.app/profile/stim3on.bsky.s ... k6h4npf22d

But the first confirmed video image makes 3I Atlas looks like a round spec
https://www.esa.int/Science_Exploration ... t_3I_ATLAS

According to the European space Agency 3I/ATLAS has not yet revealed itself in the Mars Express images, partly because these were taken with an exposure time of just 0.5 seconds (the maximum limit for Mars Express) compared to five seconds for ExoMars TGO.

Scientists will continue to analyse the data from both orbiters, including adding together several images from Mars Express to see if they can spot the faint comet.

They also tried to measure the spectrum of light from comet 3I/ATLAS using Mars Express’s OMEGA and SPICAM spectrometers, and ExoMars TGO’s NOMAD spectrometer. At this point, it is uncertain whether the coma and tail were bright enough for a spectral characterisation.

 

[Cyber]

Also the round object seems to missing a comet tail? how is this a comet without a tail?

 

[Cyber]

All bets on what 3I Atlas is/identity hinges on High Resolution Imaging Experiment (HiRISE) camera on Mars which will capture images (we assume) but currently is under a NASA shutdown so NASA can choose not to share images.

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As Avi Loeb says, possibly the greatest discovery in human history may be stalled due to the bureaucratic stupidity of a few selfish individuals.

 

[vergil96]

Also the round object seems to missing a comet tail? how is this a comet without a tail?

No, not all comets have tails (Wikipedia):

A comet tail is a projection of material from a comet that often becomes visible when illuminated by the Sun, while the comet passes through the inner Solar System. As a comet approaches the Sun, solar radiation causes the volatile materials within the comet to vaporize and stream out of the comet nucleus, carrying dust away with them.

Blown by the solar wind, these materials typically form two separate tails that extend outwards from the comet's orbit: the dust tail, composed of comet dust, and the gas or ion tail, composed of ionized gases. They become visible through different mechanisms: the dust tail reflects sunlight directly, while the gas tail glows because of the ionization.

Larger dust particles are less affected by solar wind and tend to persist along the comet's trajectory, forming a dust trail which, when seen from Earth in certain conditions, appears as an anti-tail (or antitail) extending in the opposite directions to the main tail.

So the tails are visible only as the comet passes near the star. If it never had a tail, it would be an asteroid.

Ok confirmed. NASA live feed cut off several seconds before camera live feed of 3I Atlas from Mars
But the one single image looks like a tic tac
NASA Rover Appears to Catch Photo of Mysterious Interstellar Object From Surface of Mars

And this photograph has a really long exposure time, long enough for the object to move during this time.

under a NASA shutdown

I would do the same if I was responsible for NASA press presence. Too many people think it's aliens and speculate based on the tiniest and most normal details of the object. Any further details, especially images before proper interpretation, will only ignite the public opinion if it's not aliens, and if it's really aliens, then public panic would be a tragedy.

the greatest discovery in human history

The images are extremely pixelated and require supercomputers to make them usable. There is an extreme amount of noise in the data, so it's hard to clearly determine much.

 

[vergil96]

I suppose, but I would have thought Putin would have bigger fish to fry?

No, that's exactly what he and others in power in Russia do, this whole hybrid and psychological war thing. They will keep on poking to see how far they can go, testing boundaries and how much bullying which country takes, and to see what they provoke. It's hardly the first time Russian drones fly over EU.

 

[Cyber]

Fair points, Let's wait and see if NASA release the Hirise images from Mars and Juno images from Jupiter. I am very keen to see who our interstellar visitor is?