Do NT-Designed IQ Tests Truly Reflect Neurodivergent Intelligence?

[Vesta]

I have taken many such tests over the years and my higher parts and lower parts have been pretty consistent.
Just rock what you got!

Well, I tried hard and thought a lot; it seemed like I was doing pretty well, but my results still ended up being lower than most people’s. I did most of it in a rush, and there were even some math problems that I completely forgot how to solve, so I just picked something at random

 

[Ronald Zeeman]

Additive color can be described via Hue, Saturation & Luminance.
To me, "g," the quality measured by IQ tests, would be analogous to saturation.

Muncell, system for colour not ued much by industry, the system used is more analogous to Myer Briggs.

 

[Crossbreed]

...the system used is more analogous to Myer Briggs.

Is that a subtractive color system?

 

[Ronald Zeeman]

Is that a subtractive color system?

It's a what they call an opposing colour system light dark red green and blue yellow,

 

[Dagan]

Yeah, IQ tests are weird. I know I had some when first in school, then I was put in the advanced classes along with a class once a week where a few of us were pulled into another classroom and constantly given brain games, basically. It got to feeling weird. At that time, I was reading ENDER'S GAME, haha, and I started having worries about what was going to eventually become of it all. Oops. I suddenly changed schools, and then I didn't take another IQ test until the military testing that gets mandated for USA high school kids. Per the military, I scored a 212, which they said equated to 166 in other standards for intelligence quotient. I didn't focus or worry about it. What was of worry, is that I was suddenly asked to take another test with about a hundred or so other kids a few weeks later. I was then suddenly told to meet at this hotel lobby for other testing. It wound up, and this is still so weird to me, that I was in a paid room with just one other kid taking another lengthy test, while the door was purposely open with two uniformed military (I think it was ARMY) guys standing outside the threshold of the door.

No one besides the Air Force called me after that. Everything they said was about intelligence fields, and I was actually willing to do it. My senior year of high school then started, and I tore three knee ligaments playing football (I was a field goal kicker - if your plant foot slides forward in the mud, you kick the ground instead of the ball and bend your knee sideways - I don't advise it - it sucks).

I rambled. Sorry. Long story short: I know that IQ is like a speed of application to get the correct answer kind of rating only. I've never felt that it was something that meant someone was way, way smarter than most at every single thing, every single moment.

 

[Ronald Zeeman]

It's a what they call an opposing colour system light dark red green and blue yellow,

Subtractive sysrem is light based TV, indusrty uses pigments different system,refecting and adsorbing light.

 

[Judge]

I forgot about that. So long ago I took the ASVAB test and scored quite high (category I). Enough to break an Air Force recruiter's heart when I opted not to join the military. I might have probably loved the work, but the social consideration of living with others at such close range overwhelmed me. Not to mention that our military was rife with smokers back then. But then so was a bad private-sector economy.

One of those moments when I didn't understand my autism, but knew that for whatever reason, this could potentially go badly for me. While the government still uses this metric, I know there are a lot of people in the service who'd like to see such an evaluation process updated.

Funny to think how my parents used to argue over whether or not I would prosper in the military. No surprise that my mother was right, my career military father was wrong about that.

Understanding ASVAB Scores | ASVAB

 

[Crossbreed]

I did well on the ASVAB. I do not remember my score, but it was enough to qualify for the Navy's nuclear propulsion program. (I failed to pass its security clearance, however.

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[Judge]

I did well on the ASVAB. I do not remember my score, but it was enough to qualify for the Navy's nuclear propulsion program. (I failed to pass the security clearance, however.

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My brother went through that program. Did well intellectually, but at odds socially not with his peers, but the Navy proper. No surprise given his tense relationship with our father, (Class of 46 USNA).

His decision for joining the Navy boiled down to one number. "34" was his draft number in 1970. Join the Navy and "see the world" or be drafted into the Army and go straight to Vietnam.

 

[Nervous Rex]

My problem with the traditional IQ tests is that if you score well, you're expected to Succeed in Life, in all ways and all aspects. In reality, that IQ only measures a narrow slice of the abilities needed to deal with life.

I did well on the IQ tests, and I can do a certain type of technical job and do it well. But interviewing is hell. Navigating the social circles of the workplace feels like a minefield. Persuading others that a specific solution is for the best is haaaard. There are so many other skills required to succeed which the IQ test doesn't measure.

There is a theory that's growing in popularity that there are multiple types of intelligence. One academic site (here) lists 9 different types of intelligence. This makes a lot more sense to me than "If you can arrange these blocks right, yer smart. If not, yer dumb."

 

[vergil96]

It seems like there is a larger culture around IQ testing on your end of the pond, in the US. There was no testing at my school and I don't think more grind at school or a "gifted class" would have served me. I went to good schools and graduated from a quite ambitious high school. Finally, I went to a very ambitious university and the hardest course at it and burnt out and got depressed. My point is... someone might be good at logic, memory and all that, and it's a good thing, I think both the education and distinguishing myself at what I do have given me a good life and a good career. But being good at learning, mathematics, languages doesn't mean someone doesn't have limitations or that they can grind all day and night. Aren't emotionally affected by the competition. Are actually willing to commit their free time to study what is being taught at school. I'm glad I didn't go to the top school before university and I don't think "gifted programs" are actually good for a child's development, as they put too much strain and support the child only academically. They also potentially cram all the high functioning autistics into one place, which isn't good for socio-emotional development, as many have deficits in this area and too many people in one place with a deficit will drag the whole group down. I've been in that kind of extracurricular groups and then later at university what I studied and where attracted autistics. There is the same effect with academic skills. I'm for more diverse environments, because more balance can be achieved this way and the group as a whole won't be dragged down and at the same time there is not as much risk of a burnout. Anyway, my two cents. I work in acadmia and do research on AI now. And psychological testing was quite unhelpful and created a false image that I don't have problems. Obviously, it also didn't show what the problems are and how to solve them.

 

[Vesta]

s. Per the military, I scored a 212, which they said equated to 166 in other standards for intelligence quotient.

They were probably in shock. And how did you study at school?

 

[Ronald Zeeman]

My older brother diod some top secret work for Canadian Military when in University Guy phoned my dad as part of security check told him his son had the top IQ score they had ever measured, in the forces.

 

[Kayla55]

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I'm not trying to diss Elon Musk (the genius) but seriously I hope others wake up and not use such products to limit success until such people change.

 

[Kayla55]

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[Hypnalis]

My problem with the traditional IQ tests is that if you score well, you're expected to Succeed in Life, in all ways and all aspects. In reality, that IQ only measures a narrow slice of the abilities needed to deal with life.

It correlates well - AFAIK those tests are a good (but by no means perfect) predictor of income (possibly the best predictor in specific contexts).

But the cause and effect is indirect. For example it's difficult for people with iADHD to leverage whatever it is that IQ measures, and some personality traits help, while others hinder economic success.

The people who create those tests are fully aware that they don't cover everything that matters. For example I'd expect them to be in favor of assessing personality traits too.

Also that graphic about "multiple intelligences" is good, but most of them are abilities that nobody serious would expect IQ to predict well.
They fit better beside personality traits - characteristics that are important, but should be measured in other ways.

 

[Ronald Zeeman]

I used my special, abilities to great effect at some of the empoyers thar hired me. They got the benefit told me I was an exceptional employee, no promotion, kept upgrading education at my cost. Changed positions a few times, chasing greater reponsibility. IQ did not measure this. Why did my bother with a genius IQ, not obtain employment foe 30 years, not through lack of trying. Yet one of my younger brothers buils significant wealth using his special skills. Saw a patterns in the stock market completely missed by those with much higher IQ's. Funny the one NT' brother is a Mensa member.

 

[Dagan]

The ASVAB was supposedly 4 quadrants at that time. I'm told it's a three way split of how they divide the test and calculate scores, now. My quad numbers came to the 212, but they did some sort of equation and said it came to what should be 166 on IQ standard testing (again, at that time). Honestly, just like how I don't handle getting major recognition or awards for anything, I just felt weird about any of their praise and kind of excitement towards it all.

At the same time, and I hope this doesn't come across as arrogant or such, but whenever there's any mass of folks that don't figure out something for long periods of time or at all, when I have already concluded correctly (and no, it's not everything or all of the time that this occurs)... I feel so weird and just go right to second guessing myself. The main question in my head will usually be, "no way...no way that I figured this out before anyone else?"

 

[GHA]

I came across a TikTok video by a girl who mentioned that she has autism. She talked about taking an IQ test with a specialist, and she didn’t receive her results the next day. It turned out that her scores varied significantly across different types of tasks—one aspect lagged behind the others by about 70 points. It’s often the case that high-functioning autistics score well, or maybe they just tend to share their results more, like neurotypical people do. But unfortunately, that’s not how it worked out for me. I’ve taken several of those tests and scored average or low. But I already knew I wasn’t particularly smart; I found them difficult to solve.

I can only imagine how hard that must have felt, especially when you’ve seen others share high scores as if that’s the only story worth telling. But please know this — those numbers do not define you, and they certainly do not capture the full scope of your mind.
I’ve lived alongside a neurodivergent mind for decades, and I’ve seen gifts that no standard IQ test could ever measure: the ability to see patterns no one else notices, to think in ways that are entirely original, to connect ideas that seem unrelated, and to hold onto a problem until it’s solved in a way others couldn’t imagine.
IQ tests are built from a neurotypical framework — they reward certain ways of processing, often under pressure, in a very narrow setting. If your natural way of thinking doesn’t match that format, the score reflects the mismatch, not your true ability.
Scoring “average” or “low” doesn’t mean you aren’t intelligent — it means your intelligence may live in places the test wasn’t designed to look. I’ve known people whose test results were forgettable, but whose work, insight, and creativity have changed lives.
Please don’t let a number convince you that you aren’t capable. You may carry strengths that the test could never see, but the world will feel when you put them into action.

 

[Ronald Zeeman]

I have never second guess my abilities, complex puzzles others would not even dream of tackling, to me interesting I wonder if I can figure it out, Then others surprise how did he do it.