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Featured Do I have high end autism or am I just really emotional due to something I know about?

Discussion in 'General Autism Discussion' started by Oddcampr8292, Nov 21, 2020.

  1. Aspychata

    Aspychata Serenity waves, beachy vibes

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    For some of us, the world has ended. l felt that way when l was using coffee filters as tp in the bathroom. lol. When l went to a job recently- 1000 people applied. Thats 1000 people that may not beable to afford food today or by next month. Yesterday, l saw food bank lines in Texas that was 50 cars long. l see more homeless in the state l live in. The world has changed, and relationships are the least of our worries right now.
     
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  2. Oddcampr8292

    Oddcampr8292 Active Member

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    Wow. Im sorry about what you went through. You have my respect for handling it maturely.
     
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    Esa Well-Known Member

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    I’m sorry to hear these but the coffee filter bit was hilarious.
     
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  4. Aspychata

    Aspychata Serenity waves, beachy vibes

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    It is pretty funny.
     
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    Over 600 children brought to the United States by their parents looking for a better life may never be re-united with their families. The absolute cruelty of that makes my heart burn with anger.

    If I ever start to feel sorry for myself, I think of that.
     
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  6. Au Naturel

    Au Naturel Au Naturel

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    All depends on where you are on the spectrum. Some of the world's most brilliant minds are autistic. One of the things many of us have is the ability to focus intensely. Engineering has a high percentage of autism in it, so does board and digital gaming. Lots are into math and science but there are also people on the creative end. I know it is bad juju to diagnose famous people but it is very likely that more than a few top actors and artists and tech billionaires are autistic. Laser focus and enormous processing power.

    And there are people so far down the spectrum that simple communication is nearly impossible. People with autism are all individuals.
     
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    Can you define "complex info" or "complex tasks"? I don't know what you're talking about there. That's too vague.

    I don't have a clue about that, but if I'm guessing here have you tried breaking it all down into smaller parts?
     
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    Stardust Parade Well-Known Member

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    Only a mental health professional could tell you that.
     
  9. Oddcampr8292

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    I am unsure about if any of the elite are autistic or not, seeing as they can make any claim about themselves to the world and we can never really verify it. For example you could argue all the elite are robots and wed have no way to prove or any way to disprove.

    I do however believe you that there are normal people who are autistic who can focus well on complex things, I just never thought of someone with say, down syndrome as being capable of focusing well on anything complex unless given more time to think about it than a non autist.

    Just to clarify I wasnt saying autists cant focus well on basic tasks, I was only saying they can't focus well on complex tasks. I was basing that claim on the idea that the more autistic someone is the less quick they can process info (unless its complex info they've been given more free time to think about than a non autist).

    In other words one of the ideas I was getting at was that an autist needs to have a lot more time to figure out complex matters than does a non autist because an autist cant process info as quick as a non autist. The evidence is kind of there with those who have down syndrome.

    I agree people with autism are individuals. Im not biased towards them or anything. Just to clarify.

    Edit 4:58 pm CST- I did some research and found that down syndrome isn't = autism. But I did want to use the down syndrome as an example to show what someone with autism may do, as it had seemed to me upon my discoveries that autism is when you cant process info quick as someone whose not autistic but I can now see that autists suffer from bad thinking for different reasons than do those with down syndrome.

    I will continue in my next post in this thread for efficiency purposes.
     
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    By complex tasks I mean tasks that need to be solved through a lot of thinking. Just google the definition of complex problems and youll see what im talking of.
     
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    As i had said in a previous post, I was working under the assumption that autistic = down syndrome and that down syndrome is as low functioning on the autism spectrum as it goes and that aspergers is as high on the spectrum as it gets.

    I NOW am aware that down syndrome isn't even the same as autism and that autism is simply when you have major mental stress whereas down syndrome is when you have actual problems with your neurons (amount of neurons determines how quickly the brain can process info).

    Autists also have problems with their own neurons which is why autists appear so similar to those with down syndrome.

    I am a victim of major mental stress but that doesnt mean I have autism.
     
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  12. Au Naturel

    Au Naturel Au Naturel

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    You cannot really say that people with autism "have bad thinking." People on the spectrum are not wired for social skills. That isn't "bad thinking." Most people are hard-wired for that sort of thing and it involves no thought at all. It is a spectrum and you are ignoring the high functioning end where most of the spectrum exists.

    The unique wiring of the brain often gives people with autism a whole different outlook on the world, letting them see it in ways other people wouldn't even consider. We think differently, not slowly, or badly. People like Einstein and Andy Warhol check off every box on the autism checklist, yet they rocked our world.

    You seem determined to insist that people on the spectrum who achieve are unable to rapidly process information. You have no data that would indicate this and assert if they do it is just memorization or being a robot. This is problematic. You are posting on an autism forum and you just told me I'm a robot who lives off my memorization skills and can't quickly process complex information.

    (Edited because I was really angry when I initially posted this.)
     
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    I don't want Google's input, I wanted yours so thanks for that. We have people here on the spectrum who are college educated and/or are skilled in their areas of interest so obviously that doesn't seem to be a problem for them.

    Also, if you want to make claims about ASD it might serve you well to check your sources and be thorough about it. Only a professional gets to decide whether or not you have it, not an internet forum, and whether or not you have it I think you'll find that your assumptions about it are way off the mark here.
     
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    Sorry if you were offended. Anyway, the burden of proof is on you to prove your own claims in this thread but I can see you're not really gonna be too happy about doing that which is fine, as I understand why you were offended. My apologies.
     
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    Judging by the way the communication has gone on the thread, I do think you have struggled to express yourself. Also the comparison of autism and downs syndrome was confusing, but I think your point was, they are both brain differences? I agree too that autism can involve slow processing in some ways, for some people. I hope you will be able to talk to your doctor about this, if you want to get further with finding out a diagnosis.
     
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  16. Au Naturel

    Au Naturel Au Naturel

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    Burden of proof? LOL! This is neither a debate hall nor a courtroom.

    It is a forum for individuals posting about their various life experiences and trying to find their way through a world that is often hostile to that which is different. Blanket assertions of presumed cognitive inferiority are not helpful.

    Besides, burden of proof is never on the accused.
     
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    Thank you for understanding. Yes I was saying autism isn't down syndrome but both can involve slow processing in some ways for people with autism or down syndrome.

    If people with autism struggle to communicate as they do, why shouldn't we assume that people with autism have problems with their neurons? For some reason ive been told I'm wrong to think this way about it in this thread.

    Its common knowledge that the neurons of the brain are what process info. So I assumed that people who are autistic have problems with their neurons. Not a crazy assumption given the limited knowledge i have about neurons I might add.
     
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    Yes I think neurons are relevant, and some people with autism have slower processing sometimes, but as autism is very varied, perhaps partly due to its varied genetic causes, this is not the case for all.

    It sounds like you are experiencing some difficulty with complex tasks you are given at work? What kind of work do you do? What happens if you ask for guidance with a task?

    The example you gave, where you sprayed your pricing gun with sanitiser in an area that could fry it, sounds more like you lost focus, while doing a routine task, due to thoughts and worries intruding? I certainly do that sometimes, and it could be part of autism, but it may not be, depends what else you experience that ticks the boxes.

    Have a read of some threads here and see if you feel yourself relating to experiences of others, also look at the information resources, they may be helpful. It sounds difficult, thespecially worries you have, I can see why you would want to sort this out and make progress.
     
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    zurb Eschewer of Obfuscation

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    Remember a lot of what you hear about autists and aspies is from neurotypicals (NT) who make assumptions about thought pattens based on their interpretation of our behaviour. Because they are not in our heads, its not uncommon for them to get it wrong.
    One of our problems is not that we think slow, but think too fast. We have more neuro pathways, not less. NT brains trim/prune pathways. This means we typically have a greater associative horizon. While an NT sees only one answer, we see a dozen. The apparent slowness is because we are still calculating the consequences of each option (including the possibility the task stated wasn’t the task intended because NTs inherently understand each others vague miscommunications due to their fewer pathways).
     
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    I work as a car emissions tester (lane inspector). I scan the bar code for the car's VIN number which is aka vehicle identification number. Its the car's unique form of ID. The job isnt even hard but some parts require complex thinking to do correctly. You wont be told all the answers about everything on the job some stuff you just need to be using common sense to figure out. Sanitizing the scan gun isn't an example of any complex work to be done on the job but knowing that you shouldn't spray the vulnerable part of the gun without someone telling you requires at least some thinking that isn't extremely simplistic.

    Which means that if I were to have sprayed the vulnerable part of the gun to sanitize it I clearly wasnt doing any non simplistic thinking at the time. So it may be that I'm somewhere on the autism spectrum. Or maybe its just my anxieties and my past sufferings bothering me.
     
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