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Chunks

The definition of misogyny has been greatly expanded to include things far beyond hatred and mistrust. Or at least in some circles.
 
Maybe it is still in the genes of man.
You can trace it back to caveman if you wish.
When man was dominant over women and the old stereotypical neanderthal hitting the woman
on the head, dragging her to the cave by the hair, expecting her to kneel to his commands and
stay at home running around barefoot having babies for him.

Yes, Clan of the Cavebear type.

Man was physically bigger, stronger and the sense of entitlement to be the strongest, bravest,
the alpha, was just in creation. Same in most animal society actions.
Culture, belief systems, society status evolved into different directions.
Some may be the results of how we are taught, but, I still think it is in our genetic makeup.
All we can do, at least those who want to, is take control of internal thoughts and logically
look at what we've been taught and think for ourselves.
Continue to understand, learn and evolve. It has been slow.
 
Maybe it is still in the genes of man.
You can trace it back to caveman if you wish.
When man was dominant over women and the old stereotypical neanderthal hitting the woman
on the head, dragging her to the cave by the hair, expecting her to kneel to his commands and
stay at home running around barefoot having babies for him.
I doubt that was ever the dominant method of interaction. In the paleolithic cultures that survived long enough to be studied by modern humans, you don't see it. Don't see it in chimps or bonobos or gorillas, either. Females would certainly have gotten impregnated soon after they became fertile but fertility would have been considerably delayed. Thru recorded history puberty has been starting earlier and earlier.

Most stone age cultures either go extinct when they meet moderns or they assimilate, so very few are left in very remote areas and none of them remain uncontaminated.

In most species, the males are not big to dominate females. They are big to fend off the other males.

OTOH I clearly see that humans have a predisposition to "us vs. them." Even if there are no obvious differences we seem to seek them out and manufacture them. Freud called it the "pathology of small differences" where we blow tiny things way out of proportion to maintain our sense of separateness from the "others" and a sense of unity between "us."

I remember a study of a boy scout troop that was split into two groups competing for brownie points and then let go to see what would happen. The full spectrum of "us vs. them" behavior sprung up and it was no different than two nations or races or tribes or troops of chimps going at each other. They had to end the experiment before it went full-on Lord of the Flies.

Robbers Cave Experiment

OTOH, if they hadn't been artificially divided into competing groups, there's no reason they wouldn't have cooperated in peace if given a common objective.

The real Lord of the Flies: What happened when six boys were shipwrecked for 15 months

But humans always seem to divide up and the bigger the collection of people the more they tend to do so. Doubly so in a scarcity environment. Packs of wolves, troops of chimps, or tribes of people, the instinct to divide is strong.

So if you really want different groups to hate each other, cook up some artificial scarcity and draw some artificial lines. The people will do the rest.


If you want to watch the movie, don't watch the remake. It completely missed the point of the book in an effort to become uplifting.

 
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