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ASPIES ARE AMAZING video

It's only fair to start by saying that I'm usually pretty turned off by "feel-good" stuff, and this video is no different. I'm glad he's found a community he's happy with, but I've been bopping around aspie forums, blogs, sites, for enough years to say that the majority of aspies are just like anyone else in their very ordinary normality. They whine, they allow themselves to be manipulated in all sorts of ways, they promote ideas that are totally false, if not totally outlandish. Is that true of all aspies? Of course not, just as it isn't true that all aspies are "awesome."

Why does feeling good about yourself have to be based on exaggerations, false perceptions, and self-deception, as seems to be the norm? Dare I say that it's just a human trait common to aspies just as much as to NTs? Or is this too much honesty?
 
Catana said:
Why does feeling good about yourself have to be based on exaggerations, false perceptions, and self-deception, as seems to be the norm?
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Sorry you feel this way. Maybe your self esteem is based on those things but mine is not, it is based on
actions I have taken in my life and nothing else. Maybe your perception involves too much generalization about the way people are, NTs or ASDs. So beg to differ here, no disrespect intended.
 
LucyPurrs said:
Sorry you feel this way. Maybe your self esteem is based on those things but mine is not, it is based on
actions I have taken in my life and nothing else. Maybe your perception involves too much generalization about the way people are, NTs or ASDs. So beg to differ here, no disrespect intended.
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Jeez, I hardly even know how to answer. First, why would you think my self-esteem is based on those things if I'm criticizing them? You see my opinion as generalizing, when I clearly said that any characterization is not typical of all aspies, and when you've failed to see that the statements in the video are generalizations.

Oh, I see what the problem is. You're an NT. And very typical as far as not actually "hearing" what's being said by anyone who isn't an NT. "No disrespect" indeed. Just total misunderstanding, which is a polite way of saying that you're interpreting based on your own neurology.
 
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Catana said:
Why does feeling good about yourself have to be based on exaggerations, false perceptions, and self-deception, as seems to be the norm? Dare I say that it's just a human trait common to aspies just as much as to NTs? Or is this too much honesty?
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Yeh,personally I get up and make some breakfast.

Self esteem perhaps a more modern malarkey... coinciding with all these businesses existing to tweak and improve the self esteem.

Or more directly :
You're an ordinary person,get up, have your breakfast and shut up about it.

That kind of thing :)
 
I thought it was a heartfelt video and he's right that the positives are discussed less than negatives about NDs as with many minorities we are stigmatised and dominant ideas make us seem wrong sometimes or not how we should be, instead of just different plus with many positive qualities. We have to emphasise minorities positive points more because because of this stigmatisation I d say, but yes we can be less than perfect too.
 
I was at a party a few months ago when an acquaintance arrived with their preteen daughter in a penguin costume who proceeded to have a meltdown over the food (she didn't like anything on the menu that evening).... the parents simply explained "she's 12" not realizing that this hyper-verbal, labile child of theirs was likely aspie.

But this guy's assessment, in the video, that everyone's just great about showing up at a coffee shop where some of the members are dressed as pikachu, etc., just seems overly optimistic. I've spent too much time trying not to draw attention to myself to be comfortable with that.

Still, LucyPurrs, I appreciate you think aspies are awesome. :)
 
Echo said:
I was at a party a few months ago when an acquaintance arrived with their preteen daughter in a penguin costume who proceeded to have a meltdown over the food (she didn't like anything on the menu that evening).... the parents simply explained "she's 12" not realizing that this hyper-verbal, labile child of theirs was likely aspie.

But this guy's assessment, in the video, that everyone's just great about showing up at a coffee shop where some of the members are dressed as pikachu, etc., just seems overly optimistic. I've spent too much time trying not to draw attention to myself to be comfortable with that.

Still, LucyPurrs, I appreciate you think aspies are awesome. :)
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Thank you. I understand your point and it's well taken. Was never meaning that to be a generalization. I don't think Paul meant it that way either (I know him well enough to know that)- he was just feeling enthusiastic and his enthusiasm is genuine. But am beginning to be sorry that I ever posted this, had I realized some people would find it offensive I never would have done so and I can't figure out how to take it down.
 
LucyPurrs said:
Thank you. I understand your point and it's well taken. Was never meaning that to be a generalization. I don't think Paul meant it that way either (I know him well enough to know that)- he was just feeling enthusiastic and his enthusiasm is genuine. But am beginning to be sorry that I ever posted this, had I realized some people would find it offensive I never would have done so and I can't figure out how to take it down.
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I'm not offended in the slightest. I'm sorry if it seemed that way.
I'm all for genuine enthusiasm!
 
LucyPurrs said:
But am beginning to be sorry that I ever posted this, had I realized some people would find it offensive I never would have done so and I can't figure out how to take it down
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Leave it up. Its a good example.

I,don't think catanas that bothered. Everybody's different, dont worry about it.
 
I'm not offended by his positivity, which is so often transitory. Joy can be such a small part of a life, a few minuscule moments in a week or a month or a year. That, is to be celebrated.

Anger and negativity is so often related to fear and sadness, it acts as a psychological salve where it's numbed by nor-epinephrine in the brain, an analgesic.

Negative thought patterns potentially help us to invalidate whoever or whatever led us to feel invalidated. In that way, we can proclaim our righteousness, using our intellect to bash someone over the head with it. It seems that if we are unable to comfort ourselves though self-validation, invalidation works just as well.

I liked what he had to say.
 
Fridgemagnetman is right. I wasn't offended. Just pointing out the problems with generalities. And, as Echo said, it was so cheerfully optimistic as to be a bit unrealistic.
 
Mia said:
Joy can be such a small part of a life, a few minuscule moments in a week or a month or a year. That, is to be celebrated.
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Indeed. For some of us with chronic clinical depression, joy is inherently fleeting. Coming and going on a schedule not of our making. Gotta make the most of it when it comes, before it goes. ;)
 
Catana said:
Fridgemagnetman is right. I wasn't offended. Just pointing out the problems with generalities. And, as Echo said, it was so cheerfully optimistic as to be a bit unrealistic.
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Well, glad you weren't offended. Agree that generalities are inaccurate most of the time if not all of the time.
 
Haven’t watched it yet.

I loved the post title.

Aspies ARE an awesome bunch of people.

Leave it exactly where it is please Lucy, I haven’t watched it yet.
(Need to slow neural firing down first)

Thank you
:)
 
I like this guy. At least he's positive and trying to move things in a positive direction. And not all Aspies are internet trolls with crappy attitudes. Just the loudest ones, same as NTs.
 
I like his smile and his enthusiatic face and love the fact that he does not conform to the idea that aspies look blank. I know I can occasionally look blank, but lol so does everyone when they are staring at a computer screen. But his face, anyway, was just so animated and that gives me further confidence, as I am an aminated person too.

He was generalising it is true, but at the same time, I saw his point and was nodding my head with regards we don't even need to try and stand out, we do and his example.

I meet someone for the first time and try so hard to "be normal", but nope, it is soon apparent that the person has detected a strangeness about me. Some avoid me and others seem to like my uniqueness ( I shall try my hardest to say that word more often for myself: uniquness rather than weird lol).
 
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