Any fellow Linux users on here?

[Judge]

ICurrently, I use Gnome because one of the pieces of software I have doesn't like kWallet, but I think I was being a little obsessive about things and could have stayed with Plasma. Which I may go back to in again in the future. As Gnome extensions quickly become useless when Gnome dates.

That's a real drawback with so many great Gnome-based applets that work fine up to a certain update when it's like they fall off a cliff. What is it up to now....Gnome 48 ?

 

[Tedzilla]

That's a real drawback with so many great Gnome-based applets that work fine up to a certain update when it's like they fall off a cliff. What is it up to now....Gnome 48 ?

It just went up to 49 in the last week.

 

[Judge]

It just went up to 49 in the last week.

Linux Mint is still dealing with 48. I once ran Mint under Gnome briefly, but decided against it given Mint's own warnings that it alters their OS beyond their intentions. (Also did the same with KDE in Mint).

I still like Gnome, but updating to a point of rendering so many older Gnome applets useless is a bit frustrating, to say the least. I'm looking forward to Pop!OS Cosmic, but without Gnome wondering how eloquent it may be. Especially given how much I like using Gnome to customize it.

But I know that Mint will remain my "daily driver OS", mostly because I know it internally more than any other distro in terms of troubleshooting, as well as minor customization. It's been a long haul, but always moving in the right direction. Something I can't claim about Microsoft Windows. Though I still wonder if they might get their house in order with the 25H2 update. We shall see, though it's probably asking too much.

 

[Princess Viola]

Gotta love running a virtual OS two levels deep in the same OS!
How was the speed?

Well the Linux Mint running inside a VM inside the Arch running inside a VM was...pretty damn slow. Not like 'unusuable' slow but noticeably slow. Although there was at least one instance where the performance was so slow and whatever it was I was doing (I don't remember) didn't just crash the VM running Mint in Arch...it crashed the WHOLE THING. Like not my whole computer, but it crashed my Arch VM too.

The Arch VM, on the other hand, ran fine and while I'm sure it definitely had some performance downgrades compared to if I ran it on my actual hardware, it wasn't anything that I noticed in terms of speed (of course I also deliberately chose Xfce as the desktop environment on Arch because its meant to be lightweight and stuff - unlike on my actual OS where I just chose it because I needed it for the Chicago95 theme lol).

I actually did keep the Arch VM installed and set up cause I'll probably use it to experiment with and see how long it will take me to screw up and have to reinstall it lol. (Actually thought that happened early on after I installed a piece of software and literally ALL MY TEXT just became boxes, like what used to happen on Windows if a website or software was displaying text in a language your PC didn't have the characters for - like Japanese or Chinese - and it was just a buncha boxes. But a restart of the VM fixed that up)

 

[Tedzilla]

Linux Mint is still dealing with 48. I once ran Mint under Gnome briefly, but decided against it given Mint's own warnings that it alters their OS beyond their intentions. (Also did the same with KDE in Mint).

I still like Gnome, but updating to a point of rendering so many older Gnome applets useless is a bit frustrating, to say the least. I'm looking forward to Pop!OS Cosmic, but without Gnome wondering how eloquent it may be. Especially given how much I like using Gnome to customize it.

But I know that Mint will remain my "daily driver OS", mostly because I know it internally more than any other distro in terms of troubleshooting, as well as minor customization. It's been a long haul, but always moving in the right direction. Something I can't claim about Microsoft Windows. Though I still wonder if they might get their house in order with the 25H2 update. We shall see, though it's probably asking too much.

I have a feeling that I should just go back to Plasma. Especially since I am using an Arch based system.

 

[vergil96]

I have a feeling that I should just go back to Plasma. Especially since I am using an Arch based system.

Why?

 

[Tedzilla]

Why?

Mainly because some extensions stop working after each update. I mainly moved to Gnome because it does have a better password and key system, as one of my apps doesn't work with kwallet. But seahorse still works with Plasma, and I make sure that kwallet doesn't interfer.

But it could be that I am somebody who likes things kept in a certain way.

 

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Mainly because some extensions stop working after each update. I mainly moved to Gnome because it does have a better password and key system, as one of my apps doesn't work with kwallet. But seahorse still works with Plasma, and I make sure that kwallet doesn't interfer.

I tend to switch back and forth between Ubuntu and Fedora, although it's been Ubuntu the last few years. And I always use the Cinnamon desktop which is based on Gnome 2.0. Installing a system first and then switching to Cinnamon desktop leaves the Gnome desktop installed and this has caused me issues in the past, for a long while that's why I preferred Fedora, I could install a version that came with Cinnamon instead of Gnome. Now Ubuntu does that too.

Throughout the years I have never understood the point of kWallet or Gnome Keyring, to me they seem more like a security problem than a solution. All your passwords stored in one place - handy.

Over the years I've only had a couple of programs that complain about wanting Gnome Keyring, and the absolute worst of these is Google Chrome. If I want to join meetings with people using Microsoft Teams then Chrome is the only available Linux option.

I always hated Chrome right from it's very inception, reminds me of the old Opera web browser which was always crap. Then there's the complete lack of trust in Google regarding security and privacy, needless to say that I hate Chrome with real passion and see it as a sometimes necessary evil.

But every time I open Chrome it wants my root password so it can access Gnome Keyring, which I have never in my life used. Trust Google with my root password? Like hell! Why does it require access to my (nonexistent) password list to browse the internet? In me this triggers all sorts of alarms about trust and security and has further increased my distrust of Google.

When I open Chrome it presents that pop up box asking for access to Gnome Keyring and I just treat it exactly the same as I used to treat that "access denied" message in windows - click it off and try again, it only asks 3 times and then it lets you do whatever you want without permissions granted.

Yes - there's a windows hack most of you don't know about - Windows only denies access 3 times then lets you do what you want regardless of permissions. The term Microsoft Security is an oxymoron.