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Am I autistic? Or like asperger? Or just stopped caring?

niajames1999

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Well when I was a kid like 5 and 6 I was very social and I was I guess a bit hyper of a child very affectionate. But then at about 7 things changed a little for one my speech changed I got a bit of a lisp for a short while and I forgot words easy words like fridge and microwave and stove. I relearned them again. But I was a good speller at this time even and academically did very well. I was not very emotional and I remember thinking if my mom died that I would be ok as long as financially and socially things were the same for me the only issue was my grandfather was a child molester so I didn't want to have to live with my grandparents ever. Especially after all that came out.

Anyhow when I was 10 I found out my mom had been told by like two other people that they thought I was autistic. The first one well I had swimming classes with other boys my age 8 and 9 years old and I was really really shy and I talked to no one made no friends whatsoever that whole year when I was 8. Well I tried at 8 to socialize and I'd get ignored and I felt weird because I started developing very early physically so I never felt I fit in and I was bigger than all of them and I was the fastest swimmer out of all them.

Anyhow the issue was I got bored and would do things I guess that were mischievous and I really sometimes just wasn't thinking and I would sometimes hit or pull pranks on people just to see a reaction. It was boring sometimes so like one time someone had shoes just lying and I poor a lot water in them just to see how long before they deteriorated. I really didn't think about if someone else owned them I didn't think of the owner of the pants I set fire to either I just wanted to have like a little fun in the moment.

Generally speaking I did some stuff to be outright funny like my swim teacher told me to move this way I would move the complete opposite way just to do it. Not like I didn't know what I was doing though. Then one day I was getting out of hand and I got so bold I did what I normally did in front of the teacher and kept going even after he told me to stop. I sometimes run on that same drive and can't stop until it's like done. That was the teacher who said he thought I had autism.

Then just a year later I went and told my mom when I was 10 that I was being sexually abused by her father. And that brought on hell. I was actually getting into ice skating I had for 2 years and I developed small friendships at that time all to be flushed down the drain because I opened my big mouth about something that hadn't happened for 5 years. And I had to stop all activities and was like in lockdown for what? Like 5 years? I'd say.

I noticed by 10 I would try to social and I'd get ignored. I guess I give off that vibe that I am an odd ball. I have never tried to hide away from people. People run away from me. During this point though I got extreme anxiety. My mom got all scared someone was going to abuse me and she wouldn't let me out of her sight.

On top of it I went to a therapist connected with the whole abuse thing and I didn't really want to talk about any of that and she would ask my mom if I was autistic because I didn't like to give eye contact. And honestly I don't like to give eye contact to people who have eyes I don't like to look at and naturally I never did give eye contact until I was told that's what people do and even then I didn't like to give it unless the person has brown or green eyes. I am literally obsessed with green eyes. I also really really liked lights. Like staring at lights up until like 8 years old that's what I did on a regular basis. I stared at them it really was like calming for me.

Added to that I had issues with like stuff as a kid under 10. I always have a thing I need to do. It changes and honestly I don't have any reason to explain why I need to do it. Rather it's just something I really really want to do. More like an idiosyncrasy. I had a big issue with anything with a stain on it. And it got so bad I started jumping and ducking at times until one day I was like **** it and stopped cold turkey. I had similar things but more in a guess sophisticated way above 10 up until now but they don't bother me much it only bothers if someone lives with me.

Then when I was around the same age I always struggled with the term before and after left and right etc... I am left handed so this I believe is somewhat common. But this causes a third person the detective to think I was special needs possibly autistic. At the same time I had no issue with academics at all. I had poor handwriting skills pretty good at science and math generally.

By 13 I was really starving for attention so I would prank call people and get them to stay on the phone for hours just talking about random stuff. I really really craved llike social interaction from men when I was an early teen and tween it made me almost emotional. This point of seclusion I kind regressed in a sense I would freak out really bad at that time when things didn't go my way just to get my way basically to scare my mom she'd give me my way and I'd go back to normal.

Sometimes back then life felt more like games than anything like I wanted to win something no matter how insignificant that was to others. By 15, I kind of let that go because it stopped working my mom got a therapist and she diagnosed me with psychosis but failed to get me medicated because when I saw the psychiatrist I was completely calm and could lay how I truly felt instead of the repeated lies I had been telling my mother. Because at this point I needed to do the things I did well I wanted to do them my mom would raise issue with it so I would come up with any reason for her to let me do it.

Around this time I built an internet life and shortly before I turned 16 I got a boyfriend. Kind of secretly because my mother is and was a crazy religious zealot I wasn't even allowed to use the word gay. She'd make me use the word fairy to describe anything to do with lgbt people. Anyhow my ex introduced to some friends who introduced me to a place that his type of friends socialized at and it helped me socialize a little better but I always felt like people didn't like me being there that I was weird like I didn't belong like every time I tried to socialize that people ignored me. Then I got bad attention. Honestly though I loved the bad attention much more than isolation. Because I ended up breaking up with my ex and then some of the time I didn't know how to like turn someone down without like insulting them and then the whole turned it like a wild fire where no one liked me being there like I wasn't even tolerated so I was again solitaire.

But it did help me out of my shell also my last job helped with that as well. There I was pretty shy of people. And I like talked to no one. Like ever and stayed to myself but working like at what I do best which was with the customer I actually felt less uncomfortable with people irl.

But currently I see some commonalities in some ways for one I have at my current job I talk like one sidedly and really frankly I don't care anymore when it comes to the coworkers I'm usually trying to just waste time and they don't decide if I get paid so I don't care how they think of me. I don't really pay much attention to nonverbal cues I rather not pay attention to them I figure they're not going to be good. And I feel it'd something I can't change. I can't change how people feel about me or what they think of me.

So for me I never have been concerned about what someone is saying nonverbally because I figure the words matter more to otherwise if they want me to know they should tell me and if they won't then it's not supposed to be known to me. That's how I have always felt having accepted things the way they are. I just generally don't care I'd only care if I were like trying to manipulate someone and nothing in my life compels me to do that right now. So I don't see the point.

Also I read that people with autism are more likely to be lgbt. Which in part I always felt a little I guess simple compared to other people on that subject. Because for me I never understood gender. What it is to be a man or a woman. Since it's not about anything factual or tangible. Like sex is. For me gender expression has really made little sense. As it's something that changes from culture to culture it seems a bit made up to me.
 
Hi! Welcone to the forum!
I can't be sure whether it's autism or not.
You can check other threads to see if you have any other similarities and then talk with your therapist about it.
Also check emotional detachment.
In any case a therapist can inform and guide you.
 
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Aspergers doesn't really exist in a clinical sense, and it's almost exactly like high functioning autism, except slightly less severe in some cases. Only professionals can give you an official opinion, but to me this does not sound fully like high functioning, but rather high functioning along with some kind of conduct disorder or psychopathy. People on the spectrum do not usually like to mess with other's and their things, preferring to follow rules rigidly. However, kids with conduct disorder may do this impulsively, as they find it fun. also, the section about freaking out at your mother could be a meltdown, but it seems like a form of manipulation to me, just from the way you phrased it. You may have a few autistic traits, but from what you're saying i'd doubt you have full blown aspergers. it's more likely that you are either a psychopath or a sociopath with a few autistic traits.
 
You should see a licensed therapist if you want to know whether you are on the spectrum.
I have actually seen wait let me count.....

I have seen a total of eight therapists I saw a doctor once on some issues in an emergency when I was a kid over an extreme situation I basically threatened my mom with a knife to allow me to do something because basically it got completely out of hand. I don't know if he counts or not. But the ones with therapy sessions were 3 when I was a kid and 5 I went to by myself. Only the first therapist tied with the abuse mentioned autism. She also thought it had to do with me being homeschool but it actually had to do with me not getting into a charter school and my mom thinking schools were too liberal and thinking it was a bad influence. The next lady thought I was a schizo. The next lady thought I was psychotic. Then when I went as an adult she was a tad stuck on my mom being religious but no mention of any of those conditions when I'm calm people tend to think I'm just a little weird this one was like other people pretty much rude in the sense that she assumes I'm upset just by existing. I actually honestly don't like that people do read facial expressions because it's like I work counter to that. When I'm happy or just cool people think I'm angry do to facial expression when it's just my face. The same is when I fight people generally don't expect it coming. The first therapist I saw as an adult thought I was upset when I was in a good mood by my facial expression. Now the next lady was the regular like school counselor I had a crush on her so it was hard to really talk when I'm like uncomfortable you know. So there was never anything about autism brought up. Then the first guy basically that I talked to in therapy I felt he didn't get why I didn't have much emotion. When stressed I'm very flat. And I'm too embarrassed to talk about it because I knew well what I should do rather than what I was doing. Plus I never have much feeling about it is about facts when you're looking in hindsight you know. That's the only thing he mentioned was that it's my time and I was yet emotionless basically. The next lady was a liberal last year and we didn't get far because she was having an emotional time last year because President Donald Trump was just elected and I have a kind of opposite political side to hers and the fact that she let me know that made me discontinue the sessions since the sessions we weren't even talking about stuff I wanted to talk about rather like it was her session and she was paying for it. Then the last one was last month last year and he was all obsessed with me being attracted to guys the first questions he asked me were sexual and that's what all his questions seemed to revolve around. So one session was enough there. I'm in the process of finding a new therapist.


All in all as an adult none of the therapist I've interacted with told me that they thought I had autism outside of the one with the abuse. Which honestly considering what we were talking about I don't think now I'd act like I normally do even. I had more therapists think I was schizo or psychotic. But the thing is I never really believed any of the stuff I was saying to begin with. It's just my idiosyncrasy have always ruled my life since I was really little kind of in an ocd sense but I am not a neat person at all I'm actually very disorganized unless I'm about to move out or someone coming over etc...
 
Hi! Welcone to the forum!
I can't be sure whether it's autism or not.
You can check other threads to see if you have any other similarities and then talk with your therapist about it.
Also check emotional detachment.
In any case a therapist can inform and guide you.


thanks



I have looked at the symptoms of Asperger's just now

They include:
  • Attention deficit hyperactivity disorder (ADHD).
  • Anxiety disorder.
  • Depression, especially in adolescents.
  • Nonverbal learning disorder.
  • Obsessive-compulsive disorder (OCD).
  • Social anxiety disorder.
I have all those symptoms even depression especially when I was a teen mostly from the isolation and being told I was weird and I'd never be accepted by anyone by the likes of my mother etc...

Asperger's Syndrome-Symptoms


yeah this describes me well but autism doesn't seem to well I was a lot like that as a child I used words that were unusual more than I do now


none of my therapists mentioned aspergers am I supposed to tell them I think I may have it or what?
 
Aspergers doesn't really exist in a clinical sense, and it's almost exactly like high functioning autism, except slightly less severe in some cases. Only professionals can give you an official opinion, but to me this does not sound fully like high functioning, but rather high functioning along with some kind of conduct disorder or psychopathy. People on the spectrum do not usually like to mess with other's and their things, preferring to follow rules rigidly. However, kids with conduct disorder may do this impulsively, as they find it fun. also, the section about freaking out at your mother could be a meltdown, but it seems like a form of manipulation to me, just from the way you phrased it. You may have a few autistic traits, but from what you're saying i'd doubt you have full blown aspergers. it's more likely that you are either a psychopath or a sociopath with a few autistic traits.

Yeah boredom for me can bring out the confrontational side of me. I like to debate I like to fight more than that I like to watch people fight etc. I never have been one to really like to follow rules. But the way life has been for me around the most unfortunate people I sometimes feel like if I don't follow the laws to a T I will be dead. I learned that kind of I guess from the situation because to me it was just some bad behavior but everyone else acted like I was a murderer or something. But I do have impulses but not to really adult humans. More like to animals etc... But so do hunters. I have never though killed even an animal and I'm in my mid 20's so I am not a psychopath killer or anything.

Uh yeah it was a tool to get what I want the same as saying I felt it was really important to do what I wanted to do because it was apart of my routine but I'd tell her something like I think I'd die if I didn't do it. etc.... Because my last routine ended when I was 8 and my mom did not indulge in it because she felt it was a habit I needed to break. So I had to convince her in one way or another that it was something I felt I really needed to do.

But manipulation is not my thing. That's my mother's trade. She's always actually taught me that to point who is like moldable who you can manipulate easier than others she can spot that and she can convince people to get her way easily. I think it's too much work and I am not into finding out how anyone ticks and how to push their buttons to my advantage like she does to them and did me many times and still does time to time. I don't like to get into people's minds I have no interest or obsession with other people honestly.


But I didn't know psychopaths could be a mental illness I thought that's just a term for a mass murderer/serial killer. I have a hard time killing bugs tbh.
 
Yes, you have to tell them. Otherwise, even if they see it, they may think it doesn't affect your life.
You have to tell them the whole story though.
Sometimes when people tell us we are something, we end up believing we are that thing and eventually we become the thing they told us.
Good luck!
 
Signs and Symptoms of Psychopathy
The signs and symptoms of psychopathy are identified most commonly in scientific studies by Hare's 20-item Psychopathy Checklist-Revised. This checklist identifies the following as the symptoms and signs of psychopathy:

  1. Superficial charm and glibness
  2. Inflated sense of self-worth
  3. Constant need for stimulation
  4. Lying pathologically
  5. Conning others; being manipulative
  6. Lack of remorse or guilt
  7. Shallow emotions
  8. Callousness; lack of empathy
  9. Using others (a parasitic lifestyle)
  10. Poor control over behavior
  11. Promiscuous sexual behavior
  12. Behavioral problems early in life
  13. Lack of realistic, long-term goals
  14. Being impulsive
  15. Being irresponsible
  16. Blaming others and refusing to accept responsibility
  17. Having several marital relationships
  18. Delinquency when young
  19. Revocation of conditional release
  20. Criminal acts in several realms (criminal versatility)
1-9 is my mom exactly and 13-16 I don't understand #19.

I am not charming lol I'm the opposite 3 applies for me 6-8 applies somewhat 14 and 15 oh and 10. It says on the other page that substance abuse is involved though my ex actually struggled with an addiction and it really scared me to never touch it. I have enough issues and I am way too poor to even smoke a cigarette that's how I've always seen it but thanks for the suggestion because it's an interesting read
 
Yeah boredom for me can bring out the confrontational side of me. I like to debate I like to fight more than that I like to watch people fight etc. I never have been one to really like to follow rules. But the way life has been for me around the most unfortunate people I sometimes feel like if I don't follow the laws to a T I will be dead. I learned that kind of I guess from the situation because to me it was just some bad behavior but everyone else acted like I was a murderer or something. But I do have impulses but not to really adult humans. More like to animals etc... But so do hunters. I have never though killed even an animal and I'm in my mid 20's so I am not a psychopath killer or anything.

Uh yeah it was a tool to get what I want the same as saying I felt it was really important to do what I wanted to do because it was apart of my routine but I'd tell her something like I think I'd die if I didn't do it. etc.... Because my last routine ended when I was 8 and my mom did not indulge in it because she felt it was a habit I needed to break. So I had to convince her in one way or another that it was something I felt I really needed to do.

But manipulation is not my thing. That's my mother's trade. She's always actually taught me that to point who is like moldable who you can manipulate easier than others she can spot that and she can convince people to get her way easily. I think it's too much work and I am not into finding out how anyone ticks and how to push their buttons to my advantage like she does to them and did me many times and still does time to time. I don't like to get into people's minds I have no interest or obsession with other people honestly.


But I didn't know psychopaths could be a mental illness I thought that's just a term for a mass murderer/serial killer. I have a hard time killing bugs tbh.
Well, psychopathy is HEAVILY stigmatized. I myself have psychopathic traits, and i could never bring myself to kill. It's become so hard for those who cope with it, because the media has romanticized/dramatized the condition. Sociopaths are not murderers, and the non-manipulative one's can be quite kind. I have met many psychopaths and a few sociopaths, and none of them have ever killed anyone, some of them love animals so much that they want to become veteranarians. Psychopaths are people who are not aware of the impact they have on others, they live in thier own world and are so goal oriented that they do not recognize they hurt people. They do not plan to hurt anyone, they just want to achieve thier goal. Psychopaths ARE NOT crazed killers (most of the time). They are mentally ill and they need help like everyone else. The correct name for the diagnosis is anti-social personality disorder. Please research that disorder, as you sound like. you would fit that diagnosis more than the asperger diagnosis. You sound nothing like an aspie, but you sound like many of the psychopaths i've helped. Another interesting note: psychopathy can develop through prolongued periods of abuse. I really hope you get the help you need.
 
Yes, you have to tell them. Otherwise, even if they see it, they may think it doesn't affect your life.
You have to tell them the whole story though.
Sometimes when people tell us we are something, we end up believing we are that thing and eventually we become the thing they told us.
Good luck!
yeah sometimes I get scared like I never really say stuff about me that can be judged the first therapist I did that with was the last and that went really badly. But I figured they'd gather something from my personality but maybe I was wrong
 
Well, psychopathy is HEAVILY stigmatized. I myself have psychopathic traits, and i could never bring myself to kill. It's become so hard for those who cope with it, because the media has romanticized/dramatized the condition. Sociopaths are not murderers, and the non-manipulative one's can be quite kind. I have met many psychopaths and a few sociopaths, and none of them have ever killed anyone, some of them love animals so much that they want to become veteranarians. Psychopaths are people who are not aware of the impact they have on others, they live in thier own world and are so goal oriented that they do not recognize they hurt people. They do not plan to hurt anyone, they just want to achieve thier goal. Psychopaths ARE NOT crazed killers (most of the time). They are mentally ill and they need help like everyone else. The correct name for the diagnosis is anti-social personality disorder. Please research that disorder, as you sound like. you would fit that diagnosis more than the asperger diagnosis. You sound nothing like an aspie, but you sound like many of the psychopaths i've helped. Another interesting note: psychopathy can develop through prolongued periods of abuse. I really hope you get the help you need.
These apply I guess for me but more when I was young than they do in this day in age. Like I do consider the negative consequences of behavior especially at work that's why I always go to the doctor when I don't work on a day I'm supposed to work. I always try to cover my butt. But I do have a sense of arrogance and I'm pretty judgmental which can seem callous. I just like look down on a lot of people those who do drugs those who have sex outside of marriage those who gamble those who have problems with law people who get pregnant while poor while single while young etc... Because to me these are things I've stayed far from and never did because I felt if I even dabbled with it I would not be here because the cards I'm dealing with are pretty pretty bad imo. So I don't emoathize generally more the type to judge. Plus I live a secluded life most everything I take an approach of live and let live and not my problem approach. I lied a lot more as a teen than I do now. I generally don't find I need to lie much. When I was mischievous I also didn't have much regret for it but that's because it was a small thing. But like I did stuff as a teen to animals and I did sometimes feel bad about it. Not kill them but was like aggressive and I regretted that. At the same time it felt good so yeah.... Poor relationships apply with my mom and my ex. I actually never hit either people though most of the time once when I was 16 my mom tried to hit me and I hit her back and restrained her but never like was a thing I did outside of defense.

I am though a compulsive spenders and eater generally and some days I just don't go to work if I overload in stress about my job especially when it's cut rampant.

  • Persistent lying or deceit to exploit others
  • Being callous, cynical and disrespectful of others
  • Arrogance, a sense of superiority and being extremely opinionated
  • Lack of empathy for others and lack of remorse about harming others
  • Poor or abusive relationships
  • Failure to consider the negative consequences of behavior or learn from them
  • Being consistently irresponsible and repeatedly failing to fulfill work or financial obligations


  • Aggression toward people and animals
  • Destruction of property
  • Deceitfulnes


When I was a kid I was aggressive to kids and animals and I destroyed property and I lied a lot as a kid so yeah I had all those in common but I've never broken the law outside like jaw walking and stealing single donuts in walmart or something lol. There was no serious violation of rules for me ever.


I read physical abuse can cause antisocial personality disorder but I have history with that my mother actually didn't believe in corporal punishment. My grandma believed in it but she was pretty mild like basically she never hit me. Nothing worth a whipping let alone abuse. I did experience other kinds though verbal and emotional from my mom and other stuff but not physical.
 
hey I just found this other disorder borderline personality. There's more similarity it seems especially in the cause.

Abandonment in childhood or adolescence
  • Disrupted family life
  • Poor communication in the family
  • Sexual, physical, or emotional abuse

I got abandoned basically from my whole mother's family after it was found out about the molestation. And my life from then was disrupted and even darker than it was before and much more secluded.
I never could communicate much with my mother because I was almost treated like an adult at times and wasn't expected to say some things I guess that would be seen as childish. And lastly I was emotionally and verbally abused by my mother since I was 10. Plus I was sexually abused by like 3 different people. But the latter 2 were when I was a teen but the cause clearly meets the expected cause.






Other symptoms of BPD include:

  • Intense fear of being abandoned
  • Cannot tolerate being alone
  • Frequent feelings of emptiness and boredom
  • Frequent displays of inappropriate anger
  • Impulsiveness, such as with substance abuse or sexual relationships

I have a fear of rejection socially in an all around manner. And I hate being single. I regularly feel empty but it's not unwanted I like to feel empty it means I don't feel stressed. I get bored really easily. I have stronger feeling for anger than I do happiness. I barely show my happiness and the only reason I might show it is to let someone know I'm grateful if I feel I have to. Then I have no impulse to substance abuse or sex. In fact I've never done any substance and I am actually a virgin. But I have a very addicting personality I don't think I could quit when I've started something I like. That's why I have never even drank and am in my mid twenties because I don't trust that I could drink responsibly.
 

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