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Weird Experimental Music

Discussion in 'Movies, Music & Television' started by tkcartoonist, Jul 4, 2020.

  1. tkcartoonist

    tkcartoonist Tunes and Toons

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    So I've posted that I make music in the past. In the past few days, I've been doing what I can best describe as a sound collage. I made the "melody" on a 4-track cassette recorder a friend gave me, then I digitized the tape backwards, messed around with the tempo and effects, then started digging through old audio and VHS tapes (some of them well over 40 years old), and just started cobbling and mixing them together. This is the result.

    Dropbox - GhostsofthePastRoughMix.mp3 - Simplify your life

    I realize, though, that what I Frankensteined together is nothing new. Plenty of artists have done this before. I was wondering if anyone else wants to post about other experimental artists, or even post anything they made that would be considered "off-the-beaten-path" or "outsider".
     
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    This is pretty awesome! It sounds like something from a creepy movie (and I mean that as a compliment. I love creepy movies!)
     
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  3. tkcartoonist

    tkcartoonist Tunes and Toons

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    Thanks. Yeah, that was kinda the idea, although I was just messing around. A few of the voice samples are from people who are long dead (there were some tapes my grandma and grandpa made when my ma was in Japan in the 70s, for example), plus hearing my own voice from infancy/childhood is a little psychologically exhausting for me even when I just capturing the raw audio, never mind overlaying it onto a backward backing track.
     
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    Interesting piece, there's a lot in it. Quite evocative of memories and maybe a bit spooky. Thanks for sharing this.
     
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    I've always been a big fan of strange, experimental and underground genres. I particularly enjoy when a musician fuses multiple genres. Especially if they mix euphoria and beauty with chaotic or aggressive energy.

    Igorrr - he produces electronic music and has an opera singer and a death metal singer along with guest musicians. It's a mix of opera, breakcore, metal and baroque.



    Venetian Snares - I always found him rather hit and miss. He has made a lot of highly experimental music. Along with some of the most technically accomplished and refined breakcore and jungle I've ever heard. This song taken from the album Rossz Csillag Alatt Született was a perfect mix of classical music and breakcore.



    Muks Died - Trap and hip hop are hugely popular genres. Whilst some of the more generic artists and songs are enjoyable - I still feel the darker and more underground artists are where some real masterpieces are. He sings a lot about emotional trauma and drug addictions:



    We get higher for the pain
    Brain drifting like we’re driving in the rain
    Baby know that time will never wait
    Forgetting life is just surviving through the day
    We get higher for the pain
    Brain drifting like we’re driving in the rain
    Baby know that time will never wait
    Forgetting life is just surviving through the day
    We’re riding to the bass

    We get higher for the pain
    Brain drifting like we’re driving in the rain
    Baby know that time will never wait
    Forgetting life is just surviving through the day
    We’re riding to the bass
    Still I’m dead but watch me rise up from the grave
    We don’t sleep but baby find me when you lay
    I been tryna die since I was eight
    I’m feeling like this is my escape
    Suicide just seems so nice when you’re away

    I wish that I never existed
    I suppress all of my **** with addictions
    That’s why my head keeps on slipping and drifting
    Twisting that pipe like a key in ignition
    I dont feel anything but what I’m sipping
    Popping and smoking injecting and sniffing
    Baby want me but you know I got bitches
    Just like I know you got niggas
    But we both know that ain’t none of our business
    I been here feeling your vibe for a minute
    I know you’re scared cause you don’t like commitment
    What’s there to fear I guess maybe you’ll miss it
    Wiping the tears in your eyes on the linen
    While tryna decide if you’re gonna forgive him
    Baby I’m here for the night and bet we getting high
    You keep wondering why I go missing I’m distant again

    We get higher for the pain
    Brain drifting like we’re driving in the rain
    Baby know that time will never wait
    Forgetting life is just surviving through the day
    We’re riding to the bass
    Still I’m dead but watch me rise up from the grave
    We don’t sleep but baby find me when you lay
    I been tryna die since I was eight
    I’m feeling like this is my escape
    Suicide just seems so nice when you’re away
     
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    Numbernin6 - Dubstep has changed a lot from it's UK roots. I enjoy music by artists all across the genres history. As genres get bigger, the majority of songs feel generic and rather uninspiring. This song always stood out for me as it was a remix of a rather somber and heartfelt acoustic track. The remix isn't too overpowering, and it's subtlety really adds to the mood of the track:



    James Munly - Another underground take on a hugely popular genre. This time a subgenre of Country music called Alternative Country. A lot of these artists make very dark songs. This one is broken into 2 distinct parts, the first part has 2 elongated drones that sound akin to Mongolian throat singing. Quite an interesting mix that works staggeringly well in my opinion:



    Gabba Front Berlin - Whilst they have Gabba songs they also venture into Speedcore. 2 underground subgenres from the Hardcore Techno scene of the 90's. They're quite an acquired taste, and I must admit I find most of the songs offputting. They either have bad rap lyrics, happy hardcore style synth and vocals or are trying too hard to be aggressive and offputting. This song combines a nice mix of several genres and moods without being needlessly harsh:



    Finally, we have Folk Metal. I was a big metal head in the early years of collecting music, but the genre became stagnent. Many years later my interest was rekindled by this genre. A lot of bands seem a little camp and kitsch - but the inclusion of a variety of folk and historical instruments helped revive a genre I'd grown wary of.



    Anyway, that's enough from me.

    Ed
     
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  7. tkcartoonist

    tkcartoonist Tunes and Toons

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    I listened to all of those. Pretty interesting stuff. Since you shared so much, it's only fitting I share more.

    I know this group has been memed to death online, but I genuinely enjoy Death Grips. Technically they're a rap group, but they have this punk attitude about it, plus most everything I heard from them invokes industrial production. I'm not embedding a video because of the language they use in all their songs, but they can be found easily.

    Celtic Frost was a band I was really into before they broke up the final time. Most of what they made was pure metal, but they did like to expand and experiment, sometimes with not-great results (the album "Cold Lake" and the demo "Prototype" come to mind). Their most adventurous album was "Into the Pandemonium", released in 1987.



    Wire could get pretty experimental at times, especially with the album "154", released in 1979. There is a nickname for them, "Punk Floyd", that totally fits what they were going for.



    Finally, this is a band an older friend of mine introduced me to: Sparks. They've been around since the late 60s/early 70s, and have experimented throughout their entire existence. Fun fact: the cover photo of Queen's first album was taken at a gig where they were supporting Sparks.



    EDIT: I can't believe I forgot this one, considering it could be a direct inspiration for my own experimental stuff. This is a group called Cromagnon, who released one album in the late 60s. The best way I can describe this is a psychedelic nightmare in audio form, and used a lot of found sounds.

     
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    I enjoy Reggae, but my preference for genres has always lied with minimal lyrics. Dub fits the bill perfectly. Many a reggae vinyl had a dubplate which was often an experimental, remixed version of the original track. It uses lots of echo, strange sound effects, minimal lyrics, and slow, heavy basslines



    Now here's several genres which use Gameboy's to make their music. Initially Chiptune:



    Here's a chiptune track mixed with other electronice genres: namely Acid and Techno:



    Here's Nintendocore - which is a fusion of Chiptune and Metal genres. Often Screamo or Post Hardcore:



    Cybergrind takes everything that little bit further - fusing lesser known Electronic subgenres: such as Glitch and Noise with Grindcore: which is one of the most extreme subgenres of the Heavy Metal scene.



    Ed
     
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    I feel like I'm hogging this thread, but I wanted to share more genres, or songs which fuse several. Music is something I spend a lot of time searching for, collecting and spending money on.

    As with my last post, I had to upload several of these songs to Youtube as they weren't already on there.


    One of my favourite songs that I found this year. A dark, yet beautiful song which has a slow build and leads to a Future Garage style climax:



    A combination of Dancehall and Dubstep:



    A striking mix of folk and electronica. Quite a piercing tone from the bagpipes, but it has a wonderful build to the song:



    Chipbreak - which is a subgenre fusing Chiptune with Breakcore:



    Soviet Pop meets Klezmer. It's catchy, energetic and the lead singer has an incredibly rich, deep voice:



    TBC
     
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    Dark Breakcore track with some Gabber and Glitch thrown in for good measure. This one is rough and messy. It starts with an awesome quote from Skeletor, from the 80's film Masters of the Universe. Even though it's a challenging song, I love this track - it perks me up, just like a strong coffee:



    Witch House - a subgenre of Dubstep with Occult and Supernatural themes and artwork:



    Tchaikovsky's Nutcracker paired with UK Grime (a hip-hop subgenre):



    That's it (for now).

    Ed
     
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    tkcartoonist Tunes and Toons

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    That's a heck of a selection. Think it's time for me to add to the archive.

    Microtonal music is a pretty experimental rabbit hole to climb down. The basic idea behind it involves notes or frequencies outside of the typical 12-tone Western scale. There's way more to it than that, but it's a far deeper subject than can be succinctly explained in a message board post. Anyway, here's just one example.



    Ron Jarzombek is probably not as well known of a guitarist as a Steve Vai or Joe Satriani, but he is just as talented. Plus, how many people can say that their music inspiration is Carl Stalling, a man who composed for Looney Tunes cartoons? Anyway, in this particular song, he syncs the lead guitar over the dialogue of Thumper from Bambi.



    Finally, this is some stuff a friend of mine makes. He tries to mix Electronic music with a Psychedelic twist.

    k0valev
     
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    tkcartoonist Tunes and Toons

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    Someone turned me on to Heilung not too long ago. I thought about including them in one of my previous posts, but I kept forgetting to.