Truth Vs Comfort

[Jonn]

This one above^^^^^
That being said , There may come a defining point as any self aware human , might have to come face to face with , As one ages It may come at a cost . PTSD or medical issues .
That in order to sustain life . One must give up certain measures of Liberty . Or Perish in the process . That might be at times the way to maintain, the liberties left to us to access.
Its the Perish part , that does make it hard as you become more aware .

Let us sheep unite!
The brotherhood of sheep forever! <baaah>

 

[Aspychata]

Totally ride with @Neonatal RRT on this. I ran around outside by myself or my school friends. Encountered a pedo following me and my tween girlfriend around Frisco playland, walked up to a worker running the carnival ride, and asked him to call the police. They showed up and dropped me and my friend at her house. Didn't even tell my mom. Worked as a teller as first job after HS, my manager hit panic button, and he was scared of a homeless person. Police team showed up, and l walked straight up to front doors and let them know it wasn't a big deal. Was totally yelled at by policeman saying that wasn't l aware their guns were drawn? That was life back then. You learned or earned your street smarts if you lived in a big city. There was no comfort, just daily survival. Your parents didn't hold your hand or baby you.

edit: but l can fall into the comfort side of just pure denial.

 

[JayCee]

Uhmmmm...... Not sure I recall ,was their a revolutionary War that occurred , Wait was there other Wars that may have occurred ? Was there any reason to have freedom to be from unwanted influence. or unsolicited influence .
Am a believer in Stoicism , and also in defining boundries though .

Per above repeated Quote by Judge bia Ben Franklin:
Another "brutal, (and timeless) truth":

"Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety."

- Ben Franklin (My favorite of our Founding Fathers)

 

[MROSS]

In the 'members only' 'General Private Discussion' Forum:
Disc. Thread, 'Do You Prefer Being Told Painful Truths or "White" Lies/Half-Truths to Spare Your Feelings?'

 

[TBRS1]

Uhmmmm...... Not sure I recall ,was their a revolutionary War that occurred , Wait was there other Wars that may have occurred ? Was there any reason to have freedom to be from unwanted influence. or unsolicited influence .
Am a believer in Stoicism , and also in defining boundries though .

Per above repeated Quote by Judge bia Ben Franklin:
Another "brutal, (and timeless) truth":

"Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety."

- Ben Franklin (My favorite of our Founding Fathers)

The problem is that different people define "essential liberty" differently.

Also, since you can't have everything, different people tend to have different ideas of what they're willing to give up in order to get something else.

 

[Jonn]

In the 'members only' 'General Private Discussion' Forum:
Disc. Thread, 'Do You Prefer Being Told Painful Truths or "White" Lies/Half-Truths to Spare Your Feelings?'

Well, there are "White Lies", and then there are grand lies meant to pervert reality to pacify the emotional needs of some.

Telling your partner that those pants don't make her bum look big is not the same as gaslighting people into denying the darker side of life.

Remember the context in the OP:
A Matrix-style awakening.

Hummm...
I now have a hankering to watch The Matrix again...

 

[TBRS1]

Well, there are "White Lies", and then there are grand lies meant to pervert reality to pacify the emotional needs of some.

Telling your partner that those pants don't make her bum look big is not the same as gaslighting people into denying the darker side of life.

Remember the context in the OP:
A Matrix-style awakening.

Hummm...
I now have a hankering to watch The Matrix again...

I understand your butt example, but I'm vague on the meaning of " the darker side of life" example.

Can you give a more concrete example of what people are being gaslit into denying?

 

[Jonn]

I understand your butt example, but I'm vague on the meaning of " the darker side of life" example.

Can you give a more concrete example of what people are being gaslit into denying?

The rewriting of history jumps to mind.
And then you have the so-called conspiracy theories that are actually true, but the powers that be don't want the general public to know about.

 

[TBRS1]

The rewriting of history jumps to mind.
And then you have the so-called conspiracy theories that are actually true, but the powers that be don't want the general public to know about.

Can you give me an example - less general, more specific?

 

[Jonn]

The man-made German famine after the war...
The falsehood that ppl can't be influenced remotely...

 

[UFO]

Out of curiosity. You did mention that "a plan to poison the water supply with the intention of killing millions" at the other thread. I do believe that you have actually encountered some facts that could point to that conclusion depending of taken viewpoint (just like I see your viewpoint following the famine of both hostile and negligent attitude of implementing JCS 1067 - not going to argue about viewpoints in that). If so I'd like to know which they are?

 

[AuAL]

Personally, I think it helps having grown up in the 1960's, 70's, and 80's before the internet, social media, op-eds disguising themselves as news, and the blatant politicization of the mainstream media.

So, for myself, I've "red pilled" my entire life, and as such, will do whatever I have to do to survive...

So much of what you wrote “chimes” with my experience. I wonder, given that the only “autistic” children in those days were ASD 3, how many of us running around “feral” knew why we were rejected at school (the only real “cohort” we had.) It took me a year to be accepted as a “real member of the team” in the soccer team I played in with school “friends”.

“Red pill”, were we ever given a choice?

 

[Jonn]

Out of curiosity. You did mention that "a plan to poison the water supply with the intention of killing millions" at the other thread. I do believe that you have actually encountered some facts that could point to that conclusion depending of taken viewpoint (just like I see your viewpoint following the famine of both hostile and negligent attitude of implementing JCS 1067 - not going to argue about viewpoints in that). If so I'd like to know which they are?

The plan to poison the German water supply is a simple fact.
There is no distortion of history here.

A real plot to poison the German water supply after WWII was organized by a Jewish revenge group called Nakam, led by Holocaust survivor Abba Kovner. Their goal was to kill millions of Germans as retribution for the Holocaust.

I don't know why AI is using Wikipedia at all.

What was the plan?​

Nakam devised “Plan A”, an operation to kill six million Germans by poisoning the water supplies of major German cities such as Nuremberg and possibly others.

Key elements of the plan:

• Abba Kovner traveled to Mandatory Palestine to obtain large quantities of poison.
• Members infiltrated German water infrastructure, including the Nuremberg water system.
• The intent was mass, indiscriminate civilian killing as retribution for the Holocaust.

It failed.
I won't bore you with the details.
You can Google it yourself, after all.

There was another revenge murder plan that worked to some degree.
Some say 400 SS POWs were killed or injured via poisoning their bread.

 

[UFO]

I know that one too, used to read a lot of about these things years ago. But what makes it allied force's plan?

Non-wiki reading for those who are interested. One of the inspirations to the The Hunters -tv-series:
Jewish avengers unapologetic for targeting Nazis after WWII

 

[Jonn]

I know that one too, used to read a lot of about these things years ago. But what makes it allied force's plan?

Copy and paste where I said it was...

 

[UFO]

From memory, the allies deliberately starved the German population for around 2 years after the war, and many thousands of Germans died as a result.
Red Cross food supplies rotted in the transport trains.

Germany had the largest number of deaths of children across the world at that time, I believe.
This was part of the hidden retribution against all Germans, guilty or not guilty of nazi atrocities.
There was even a plan to poison the water supply with the intention of killing millions, but it didn't eventuate.
Presumably, murder through starvation was less conspicuous.

 

[Jonn]

So, I am an insane troll, am I?
What makes you say that?

 

[UFO]

So, I am an insane troll, am I?
What makes you say that?

Sorry. That now deleted reply was me misunderstanding your meaning. I thought you tried to say that you already explained that somehow in that thread where the quote comes from and that I should copy-paste that, and I thought that if that is your tactics I'm finished here. A second later I understood that you asked to show where you claimed such thing.

 

[Jonn]

What you have posted (#36) has nothing to do with the water poisoning comment.

EDIT:
What you have posted has nothing to do with the Authorities being involved in the water poisoning.
The context was retribution in general.

 

[Jonn]

Sorry. That now deleted reply was me misunderstanding your meaning. I thought you tried to say that you already explained that somehow in that thread where the quote comes from and that I should copy-paste that, and I thought that if that is your tactics I'm finished here. A second later I understood that you asked to show where you claimed such thing.

It has happened to me all too often.
Misunderstanding what was posted, I mean.

No problems.