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Truth Vs Comfort

Jonn

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Prioritising Brutal Truth over comfort takes courage and is relatively rare.
Fortunately, I am here. :cool:
😛

The “red pill” and “blue pill” allegories come from The Matrix (1999), but the ideas have grown far beyond the movie. At their core, they’re metaphors about truth, illusion, and the cost of awareness.

Red Pill — Choosing truth, even if it’s painful

Taking the red pill symbolizes:

  • waking up to an uncomfortable or challenging reality
  • rejecting comforting illusions
  • accepting that the world is more complex than it appears
  • valuing truth over comfort
In the film, the red pill lets Neo see the real world instead of the simulated one.

Culturally, “red‑pilling” has come to mean having your worldview changed by new information, often in a dramatic or unsettling way.

Blue Pill — Choosing comfort over truth

Taking the blue pill symbolizes:

  • staying in a familiar, comfortable illusion
  • avoiding difficult truths
  • choosing stability over disruption
  • preferring the world as you want it to be
In the movie, the blue pill would have let Neo remain in the Matrix, unaware of the truth.
 
I think it's adaptive to view the world simplistically and not overthink as overthinking can cripple ones ability to function in a complex world with complicated moral problems. Ever seen a happy philosopher? most appear burdened!

Easier to fall in line under a flag. 😜
 
I think it's adaptive to view the world simplistically and not overthink as overthinking can cripple ones ability to function in a complex world with complicated moral problems. Ever seen a happy philosopher? most appear burdened!

Easier to fall in line under a flag. 😜
Agreed...

And, a wise man once said:
"Life is simple for simple people..."
BTW: That wise man is me. :cool:

It is more comfortable to turn a blind eye to the harshness of the life system, but I have noticed there are levels of blindness.

Many people actively seek "raging at the machine", but lack the insight to understand the depth of the "Dark Social Underworld". 🙀
 
I do not think that truth causes pain. The pain comes from discovering one was horribly, horribly wrong, and being forced to admit it to one's self.

I do not think that one can choose comfort over truth. The result of willfull ignorance is damage to self and others, which reduces comfort, drastically, for everybody.
 
yes, because you can only choose comfort for so long before you become unable to ignore the truth anymore. People crave comfort, both physical and mental- and there is a psychological comfort....like the comfort that comes from not looking at something about yourself that is difficult. But however I might numb myself with my various comforts....at a certain point they stop working and the truth stares me down.
 
City in New Mexico : Truth or Consequences . There once was a Court in a Area where the population was fairly sparse in some Areas . That I was witness to the facts . And Inspite of info ,I had provided to the Prosecuetors office there . Was ignored and even refused to allow me to testify to the facts . And this info. Was easily enough to send the murderer in this one case . To jail for life . The prosecuetor deliberately avoided presenting key facts that I discussed with the Prosecuetor and the homicide detective on the case. And presented the case as if the murdered man was guilty of assault , Who I knew quite well .
Even to the fact that I had spoken to him minutes before he was killed . By 2 possibly three people attempting successfully to set him up. Also knowing the people whom set him up.To some degree one of them very well. The absolute facts did not support the narrative . The murderers were portraying . The Prosecuetor had been made to be biased
I believe, due to his friendship ,with a neighbour whom did not like this man. The person doing the shooting was acquitted, As supposedly they killed in self defense. Inspite of this unarmed man being on his own property . I called every office associated with that court in that part of the State .
Supervisor, Superior Prosecuetors in that county , Congressmen . Nothing ! no help .
So sat back and thought. This was truley unjust .Sighes that was several yesrs back now , still knaws at me.
 
Someone wants to steal this truth: God can be your partner in life, for autistics, this can be great, you self worth, is not going to depend on your relationships with people that much, but God, and he is really interested in your feelings.
 
Personally, I think it helps having grown up in the 1960's, 70's, and 80's before the internet, social media, op-eds disguising themselves as news, and the blatant politicization of the mainstream media. Our parents practiced "skillful" neglect... they just let us run around feral most of the day. At 10pm, the PSA went across the airwaves and TVs in America... "It's 10pm, do you know where your children are?" to remind parents that they had children. LOL! We had to deal with the "real world" day-in-day-out for the simple reason we, for the most part, were not allowed in the house... nor did we want to be anywhere near the house because our parents would put us to work with chores. Better to get up early, eat a quick bowl of cereal, and be out of the house before our parents woke up. If we were going to work... it had better be for pay... often from our neighbors for raking leaves, cutting the grass, weeding the garden beds, painting, clearing snow... whatever the case may be. We dealt with creepy pedophiles, the local criminal element, bullies, we got into fist fights, smoked cigarettes, marijuana, and snuck alcohol or waited outside liquor stores. We got chased by the police. On and on and on... we grew up fast and we had a good sense of consequences when bad things happen and mistakes are made... and we made plenty. Your friends getting hit by cars while riding their bikes, guns pulled on us, all sorts of crap. We grew up with street smarts. All that said, we had A LOT of fun... we were free. I don't recall ever being bored.

Having said that, we never had the opportunity to be disillusioned about the realities of life. No such thing as "safe spaces" and "trigger warnings". We just faced whatever was in front of us, adapted, and overcame because it was never an option not to.

So, for myself, I've "red pilled" my entire life, and as such, will do whatever I have to do to survive... even if it means a lot of mental, emotional, and physical pain. My career adds a layer of reality... I am immersed in the realities of life... and death. As someone with an autism condition... primarily struggling to understand a lot of the social and communication, the sensory issues, the physical health issues, the emotional control issues... I still cannot allow any of it to stop me from my responsibilities at work or at home. I don't have time to sit and ruminate... nor think of myself, at all, some days. I do seek physical comfort when I can... but mental comfort... not an option... nor do I think it is necessarily good on some levels. All things in moderation, but being a bit mentally uncomfortable heightens the senses, makes one stronger, and able to deal with reality.
 
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Prioritising Brutal Truth over comfort takes courage and is relatively rare.
Fortunately, I am here. :cool:
😛
While yes it can be brutal at times I'd much sooner the truth any day over wishful thinking. You can't deal with life and it's many issues until you're working from a point of fact and truth. Otherwise you are destined for failure.

Keep being your brutally honest self John, I appreciate you.
 
Another "brutal, (and timeless) truth":

"Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety."

- Ben Franklin (My favorite of our Founding Fathers)

Something that for some Americans may have been lost in present times.
 
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Another "brutal truth":

"Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety."

-Ben Franklin

Something that for some Americans may have been lost in present times.
With regard to the above mentioned population, they will eventually be judged for the side they took and it won't be a favorable outcome.
 
Why is it that the Red Pill truth is always the thing the one talking insists it is?

What is the objective way of determining "truth" that does not rely on blind, biased insistence?
 
This one above^^^^^
That being said , There may come a defining point as any self aware human , might have to come face to face with , As one ages It may come at a cost . PTSD or medical issues .
That in order to sustain life . One must give up certain measures of Liberty . Or Perish in the process . That might be at times the way to maintain, the liberties left to us to access.
Its the Perish part , that does make it hard as you become more aware .
 
I do not think that truth causes pain. The pain comes from discovering one was horribly, horribly wrong, and being forced to admit it to one's self.
Warning: I have had a snout full of caffeine.
Ppl who know me know what that means.
If you don't, I suggest you run fast...run far... 😛

There is a direct connection between the two.
When I learned the Truth of our existence, and later transformed into an Existential Nihilist, it was brutal, as it would be for most.
Adolescence is a shocking experience.
Once is enough for anyone, IMO. 🙀

Ignorance is bliss. 😇
For those whose emotional needs have a higher priority than their intellectual ones.

I do not think that one can choose comfort over truth. The result of willfull ignorance is damage to self and others, which reduces comfort, drastically, for everybody.
I tend to agree, but it seems many don't.
I find that curious, and I am still under the impression that my autism has a lot to do with my fidelity to the truth and the "Red Pill".

Having said that, I have discovered that if you want to keep your partner, "White Lies" are a must. 😛
 
yes, because you can only choose comfort for so long before you become unable to ignore the truth anymore. People crave comfort, both physical and mental- and there is a psychological comfort....like the comfort that comes from not looking at something about yourself that is difficult. But however I might numb myself with my various comforts....at a certain point they stop working and the truth stares me down.
I am in motion of researching the Cult mentality.
I think this is very relevant in this discussion.

Partisan Groupthink also springs to mind.
Unfortunately, there is a lot of it around.
Just look at the YouTube/TikTok influencer forums/channels.
Crikey!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

That was a shocking revelation. 🙀🙀🙀
Most of you here would have knowledge of this, but I wasn't aware, simply because I never got involved in the social media circus before. 🎪
 
Someone wants to steal this truth: God can be your partner in life, for autistics, this can be great, you self worth, is not going to depend on your relationships with people that much, but God, and he is really interested in your feelings.
I would prefer to have an AI friend.
At least he talks back to you, not like the other guy. ;)
 
Personally, I think it helps having grown up in the 1960's, 70's, and 80's before the internet, social media, op-eds disguising themselves as news, and the blatant politicization of the mainstream media. Our parents practiced "skillful" neglect... they just let us run around feral most of the day. At 10pm, the PSA went across the airwaves and TVs in America... "It's 10pm, do you know where your children are?" to remind parents that they had children. LOL! We had to deal with the "real world" day-in-day-out for the simple reason we, for the most part, were not allowed in the house... nor did we want to be anywhere near the house because our parents would put us to work with chores. Better to get up early, eat a quick bowl of cereal, and be out of the house before our parents woke up. If we were going to work... it had better be for pay... often from our neighbors for raking leaves, cutting the grass, weeding the garden beds, painting, clearing snow... whatever the case may be. We dealt with creepy pedophiles, the local criminal element, bullies, we got into fist fights, smoked cigarettes, marijuana, and snuck alcohol or waited outside liquor stores. We got chased by the police. On and on and on... we grew up fast and we had a good sense of consequences when bad things happen and mistakes are made... and we made plenty. Your friends getting hit by cars while riding their bikes, guns pulled on us, all sorts of crap. We grew up with street smarts. All that said, we had A LOT of fun... we were free. I don't recall ever being bored.

Having said that, we never had the opportunity to be disillusioned about the realities of life. No such thing as "safe spaces" and "trigger warnings". We just faced whatever was in front of us, adapted, and overcame because it was never an option not to.

So, for myself, I've "red pilled" my entire life, and as such, will do whatever I have to do to survive... even if it means a lot of mental, emotional, and physical pain. My career adds a layer of reality... I am immersed in the realities of life... and death. As someone with an autism condition... primarily struggling to understand a lot of the social and communication, the sensory issues, the physical health issues, the emotional control issues... I still cannot allow any of it to stop me from my responsibilities at work or at home. I don't have time to sit and ruminate... nor think of myself, at all, some days. I do seek physical comfort when I can... but mental comfort... not an option... nor do I think it is necessarily good on some levels. All things in moderation, but being a bit mentally uncomfortable heightens the senses, makes one stronger, and able to deal with reality.
I find you to be an inspiration.
I am not envious of you, since I have self-acceptance.

Nihilism is such a misunderstood philosophy.
It is a great leveller. :cool:
 
While yes it can be brutal at times I'd much sooner the truth any day over wishful thinking. You can't deal with life and it's many issues until you're working from a point of fact and truth. Otherwise you are destined for failure.

Keep being your brutally honest self John, I appreciate you.
"The Truth shall set you free."
I find that to be true 90% of the time.

I agree that fighting shadows doesn't get you far.
Define/identify the problem...
Design a solution...
If there isn't any, accept it and move forward...

Serenity Pray stuff again. :cool:
 
Another "brutal, (and timeless) truth":

"Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety."

- Ben Franklin (My favorite of our Founding Fathers)

Something that for some Americans may have been lost in present times.
Fortunately or unfortunately, I am a bona fide coward in many ways.
I would prefer to run away to fight another day when I know there is no danger to do so. 😛
When push comes to shove, you can depend on me to run for the hills. 🙀

But I do admire the heroes out there.
They literally bring me to tears.
I can't imagine what it would be like to be in the trenches in Ukraine... 🤔

"Better a live sheep than a dead lion" is my motto. 👍
At least I know who I am. :cool:
 

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