1. Welcome to Autism Forums, a friendly forum to discuss Aspergers Syndrome, Autism, High Functioning Autism and related conditions.

    Your voice is missing! You will need to register to get access to the following site features:
    • Reply to discussions and create your own threads.
    • Our modern chat room. No add-ons or extensions required, just login and start chatting!
    • Private Member only forums for more serious discussions that you may wish to not have guests or search engines access to.
    • Your very own blog. Write about anything you like on your own individual blog.

    We hope to see you as a part of our community soon! Please also check us out @ https://www.twitter.com/aspiescentral

Featured 'Traits' Or 'Symptoms'...?

Discussion in 'General Autism Discussion' started by Crossbreed, Sep 12, 2020.

  1. Rectify

    Rectify Well-Known Member V.I.P Member

    Messages:
    672
    Joined:
    Oct 2, 2018
    Karma:
    +935
    Sorry @Crossbreed I was really just trying to say that it was new info to 'me' and so I assumed it wasn't something hugely known or I might have come across it.
     
    • Friendly Friendly x 1
  2. Rectify

    Rectify Well-Known Member V.I.P Member

    Messages:
    672
    Joined:
    Oct 2, 2018
    Karma:
    +935
    I'm trying to apply this to myself now for practice :) So would hyperfocus be a trait? Anxiety...trait? Or Symptom? Anxiety is an odd one because it can become a part of your personality.
     
  3. MrSpock

    MrSpock Live long and prosper

    Messages:
    430
    Joined:
    Feb 21, 2017
    Karma:
    +815
    Hyperfocus I dunno. Anxiety could be either. Anxiety is a trait of mice, they're anxious a lot of the time by nature. If a normally relaxed being were put into a dangerous situation for a long time they would likely become anxious; that anxiety would be a symptom of the negative situation, at least in the short term. If the anxiety persisted after the danger was gone I dunno, at some point you'd have to acknowledge that it's become a trait I suppose.

    I should note that I'm not at all trained in psychology. Some words have more than one definition, and if these words have specific psychological meanings I might lack the education to understand those meanings with any precision. I'm confident that I can use the words correctly in general.
     
    • Friendly Friendly x 2
    • Informative Informative x 1
  4. Fino

    Fino Alex V.I.P Member

    Messages:
    4,500
    Joined:
    Sep 22, 2018
    Karma:
    +9,566
    Isn't anxiety a separate issue? Being autistic inherently produces it, but that doesn't make it an aspect of the autism.
     
    • Like Like x 1
    • Agree Agree x 1
  5. Alexej

    Alexej Well-Known Member V.I.P Member

    Messages:
    886
    Joined:
    Jul 13, 2019
    Karma:
    +700
    It my be a small distinction but to me the words have different connotations
    - a trait is a way of being
    - a symptom is an indication of an illness - hence something that can be cured

    Personally I use the word trait more than symptom, but that be that I would fall into the ASD1 category
     
  6. Gracey

    Gracey Well-Known Member

    Messages:
    3,367
    Joined:
    Jun 30, 2017
    Karma:
    +6,296
    I'd wager anxiety is a comorbid condition.
    As a result of asd.
    It can be a learned and habitual response to stressors and triggers.

    Anxiety may be seen as a characteristic or trait of autism because many experience anxiety.
    It isn't limited to autism though.
     
    • Agree Agree x 2
  7. Gracey

    Gracey Well-Known Member

    Messages:
    3,367
    Joined:
    Jun 30, 2017
    Karma:
    +6,296
    If I'm not mistaken, the difference between anxiety and stress is,

    stress subsides as the event passes.
    it's a response to a perceived threat in a situation.
    some people work or function much better in slightly stressful situations.

    anxiety is a more permanent state.
    some think of it as a reaction (not a response) to stress.
    It's excessive worry in the 'real life' absence of stressors.
    - by thought alone.


    If when walking along the street I spot a tiger roaming freely,

    A healthy dose of stress will provide me with a better chance of survival.
    Once I'm safe and no longer a lunch option for a tiger,
    I'll calm down.

    Anxiety is not leaving the house just in case there's a tiger roaming freely somewhere. (By thought alone - no evidence of roaming tigers)
     
    • Like Like x 2
    • Useful Useful x 1
  8. s704m

    s704m storm V.I.P Member

    Messages:
    22
    Joined:
    Jun 5, 2019
    Karma:
    +53
    Going by this alone, I should have been dx'd with ASD2, had the neuropsych been paying attention to how many TBIs I've had. Then add the years of migraines and seizures, but he was more interested in my lack of flapping and my ability to make some eye contact.
     
  9. Crossbreed

    Crossbreed Neur-D Missionary ☝

    Messages:
    3,878
    Joined:
    Nov 1, 2015
    Karma:
    +5,532
    Technically, if you weren't ASD2 before the trauma, you aren't ASD2 now. The brain injury that I am describing is due to a one-time immune system failure (that ASD1s are susceptible to), not a traumatic injury. (The outcomes might be similar, though.)
     
    • Informative Informative x 1